Slow performance as root over SSH?

2008-04-14 Thread Edward Ruggeri
Hi all,

(This may actually be a question for the dtach people).

I've recently been using dtach (basically the detach function of
screen) over SSH to instruct my freeBSD machine to perform long tasks
even after I disconnect from it.  It's worked great: I run SSH and
connect to my box, execute dtach to create a new session in which to
execute a program, hit ctr-\ to detach the session from the terminal,
and then I can close the SSH tunnel.

Recently, I figured to do this with portupgrade.  Now, I don't allow
root login, so I log in as a user in the wheel group and use su.  Now,
as root, I run: dtach -A portupgrade -a.  It starts working, but
extremely slowly.  For instance, portsnap fetch update takes several
minutes, whereas it normally is blazing fast when performed locally.
I can still detach, exit root, and close the SSH tunnel.  I suppose
this is probably a dtach performance issue?

If anyone has any thoughts, I'd definitely appreciate them.  Thanks!

Sincerely,

-- Ned Ruggeri
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Re: Slow performance as root over SSH?

2008-04-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Edward Ruggeri wrote:

Hi all,

(This may actually be a question for the dtach people).

I've recently been using dtach (basically the detach function of
screen) over SSH to instruct my freeBSD machine to perform long tasks
even after I disconnect from it.  It's worked great: I run SSH and
connect to my box, execute dtach to create a new session in which to
execute a program, hit ctr-\ to detach the session from the terminal,
and then I can close the SSH tunnel.

Recently, I figured to do this with portupgrade.  Now, I don't allow
root login, so I log in as a user in the wheel group and use su.  Now,
as root, I run: dtach -A portupgrade -a.  It starts working, but
extremely slowly.  For instance, portsnap fetch update takes several
minutes, whereas it normally is blazing fast when performed locally.
I can still detach, exit root, and close the SSH tunnel.  I suppose
this is probably a dtach performance issue?


Likely unrelated to either.  There is nothing that would make root 
perform any differently than other users, and dtach only affects the 
terminal handling and not any other aspect of the system.


Kris
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Re: Slow performance as root over SSH?

2008-04-14 Thread Edward Ruggeri
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Edward Ruggeri wrote:
  Recently, I figured to do this with portupgrade.  Now, I don't allow
  root login, so I log in as a user in the wheel group and use su.  Now,
  as root, I run: dtach -A portupgrade -a.  It starts working, but
  extremely slowly.  For instance, portsnap fetch update takes several
  minutes, whereas it normally is blazing fast when performed locally.
  I can still detach, exit root, and close the SSH tunnel.  I suppose
  this is probably a dtach performance issue?
 

  Likely unrelated to either.  There is nothing that would make root perform
 any differently than other users, and dtach only affects the terminal
 handling and not any other aspect of the system.

  Kris


Thanks Kris!

Well, that's what I would have expected.  But then what explains the
difference in performance?  The only other difference I can imagine is
that I am logging in with a wheel account and using su, rather than
logging in as root.  Being something of a novice still, could that be
the issue?

Sincerely,

-- Ned Ruggeri
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Re: Slow performance as root over SSH?

2008-04-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Edward Ruggeri wrote:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Edward Ruggeri wrote:

Recently, I figured to do this with portupgrade.  Now, I don't allow
root login, so I log in as a user in the wheel group and use su.  Now,
as root, I run: dtach -A portupgrade -a.  It starts working, but
extremely slowly.  For instance, portsnap fetch update takes several
minutes, whereas it normally is blazing fast when performed locally.
I can still detach, exit root, and close the SSH tunnel.  I suppose
this is probably a dtach performance issue?


 Likely unrelated to either.  There is nothing that would make root perform
any differently than other users, and dtach only affects the terminal
handling and not any other aspect of the system.

 Kris



Thanks Kris!

Well, that's what I would have expected.  But then what explains the
difference in performance?  The only other difference I can imagine is
that I am logging in with a wheel account and using su, rather than
logging in as root.  Being something of a novice still, could that be
the issue?


No.  Unless dtach is doing something bizarre I cannot think of a reason 
this would be happening.


Kris

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Re: Slow performance as root over SSH?

2008-04-14 Thread Edward Ruggeri
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No.  Unless dtach is doing something bizarre I cannot think of a reason
 this would be happening.

  Kris

Maybe I simply over-sentimentalized the old days of updating the portsdb.

Sincerely,

-- Ned Ruggeri
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