Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Jorge Biquez

Hello all.

I have been reading in detail all your comments and advice.

Thank you very much for your time. I have clear vision now of what do 
I need to do.


I comment today to my students the help we were getting and all of 
them send you a BIG "THANK YOU VERY MUCH" comment. I hope that wieth 
your help and comments I could help them more.


Thanks again to all.

Have a nice day/night.

Jorge Biquez

At 06:23 p.m. 07/02/2012, C. P. Ghost wrote:

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Waitman Gobble  wrote:
>
> On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, "C. P. Ghost"  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez 
>> wrote:
>> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would
>> > like
>> > to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know
>> > that's
>> > the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe
>> > sound
>> > crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using
>> > WIndows or Microsofot products at least.
>>
>> Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to
>> SQL
>> databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's
>> even
>> PyQt, if you want Python bindings.
>>
>> Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea:
>>
>> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html
>
> I agree Qt is a great solution however you are probably going to want to
> ship static binaries to windows clients (only), especially to non-techical
> end users... otherwise it gets kind of insane, much more challenging than
> distributing java based apps IMHO.
>
> But the IDE is fantastic plus you get a nice integration with webkit.
>
> if I remember (been awhile) the license terms are a little different for
> static, would have to re-read carefully.

I don't know about licensing issues w.r.t. static binaries; but you're
absolutely right: it's definitely worth looking into.

Another cross-platform GUI is wxWidgets (C++, but has Python
bindings too). It's not as rich a library as Qt IMHO, but quite nice
too. You may want to combine wxWidgets with Poco though (all
of this is in ports, btw).

-cpghost.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Waitman Gobble  wrote:
>
> On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, "C. P. Ghost"  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez 
>> wrote:
>> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would
>> > like
>> > to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know
>> > that's
>> > the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe
>> > sound
>> > crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using
>> > WIndows or Microsofot products at least.
>>
>> Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to
>> SQL
>> databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's
>> even
>> PyQt, if you want Python bindings.
>>
>> Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea:
>>
>> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html
>
> I agree Qt is a great solution however you are probably going to want to
> ship static binaries to windows clients (only), especially to non-techical
> end users... otherwise it gets kind of insane, much more challenging than
> distributing java based apps IMHO.
>
> But the IDE is fantastic plus you get a nice integration with webkit.
>
> if I remember (been awhile) the license terms are a little different for
> static, would have to re-read carefully.

I don't know about licensing issues w.r.t. static binaries; but you're
absolutely right: it's definitely worth looking into.

Another cross-platform GUI is wxWidgets (C++, but has Python
bindings too). It's not as rich a library as Qt IMHO, but quite nice
too. You may want to combine wxWidgets with Poco though (all
of this is in ports, btw).

-cpghost.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600,
Jorge Biquez  a écrit :

> Hello all.

Hi,

> Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use 
> Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me 
> create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even 
> for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).
> 
> Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C 
> or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am 
> not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).
> 
> I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.
> 
> Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) 
> using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?

It is hard to develop Windows application without Windows.

Why not java? For small applications it should run anywhere and it is
widely used. This is a language without surprise (not great, but also
not so bad).

I'm happy to develop on FreeBSD / OpenJDK / Netbeans, as far I can see
that works fine.

(To be honest, I would prefer good old C, but sometimes you don't have
the choice...)

Regards.
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:06:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > 
> > However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands
> > Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
> > Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in
> > mind.  I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer
> > post, if prompted.
> 
> I'm definitely curious.  If you don't think this is the place for it, I'd
> love to see your explanation in private email or by other means.
> 

Me too.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, "C. P. Ghost"  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez 
wrote:
> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would
like
> > to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know
that's
> > the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe
sound
> > crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using
> > WIndows or Microsofot products at least.
>
> Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins
to SQL
> databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's
even
> PyQt, if you want Python bindings.
>
> Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea:
>
> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html
>
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I agree Qt is a great solution however you are probably going to want to
ship static binaries to windows clients (only), especially to non-techical
end users... otherwise it gets kind of insane, much more challenging than
distributing java based apps IMHO.

But the IDE is fantastic plus you get a nice integration with webkit.

if I remember (been awhile) the license terms are a little different for
static, would have to re-read carefully.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Rod Person
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:36:46 -0800
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:

> > "DDa" == Da Rock 
> > writes:
> 
> >> Would you do that with Python or something else?
> 
> DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your
> DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest
> DDa> Perl? For most data and its proven ability to handle/match
> DDa> string data it is very useful. And using tk it will run on
> DDa> windows as well.
> 
> At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl
> can't, and very likely vice versa.
> 
> However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands
> Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
> Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that
> in mind.  I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a
> longer post, if prompted.
> 

I'll second the motion for this evidence.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Da Rock

On 02/07/12 14:06, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

"DDa" == Da Rock writes:

Would you do that with Python or something else?

DDa>  Depending on what you really need to solve decides your
DDa>  language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl?
DDa>  For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it
DDa>  is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well.

At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl
can't, and very likely vice versa.

However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands
Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in
mind.  I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer
post, if prompted.

I'm definitely curious.  If you don't think this is the place for it, I'd
love to see your explanation in private email or by other means.


+1
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > "DDa" == Da Rock writes:
> 
> >> Would you do that with Python or something else?
> 
> DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your
> DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl?
> DDa> For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it
> DDa> is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well.
> 
> At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl
> can't, and very likely vice versa.
> 
> However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands
> Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
> Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in
> mind.  I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer
> post, if prompted.

I'm definitely curious.  If you don't think this is the place for it, I'd
love to see your explanation in private email or by other means.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "DDa" == Da Rock  writes:

>> Would you do that with Python or something else?

DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your
DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl?
DDa> For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it
DDa> is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well.

At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl
can't, and very likely vice versa.

However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands
Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in
mind.  I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer
post, if prompted.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez  wrote:
> Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like
> to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's
> the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound
> crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using
> WIndows or Microsofot products at least.

Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to SQL
databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's even
PyQt, if you want Python bindings.

Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea:

http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Da Rock

On 02/07/12 08:37, Jorge Biquez wrote:

Hello all.

This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance.

I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to 
prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they 
are students also and have the basics concepts already)


Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple 
applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a 
database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote 
database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months 
and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to 
use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern 
machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, 
text mode, and work from there.


Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we 
would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows 
(we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they 
are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop 
applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products 
at least.


I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but 
not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were 
expensive on the deployment. The "runtimes" were not free and the 
amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real 
free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am 
now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then 
use open source software to develop graphical windows applications.


Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use 
Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me 
create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for 
other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).


Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C 
or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am 
not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).


I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.

Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) 
using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?


Would you do that with Python or something else?
Depending on what you really need to solve decides your language. Others 
have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? For most data and its 
proven ability to handle/match string data it is very useful. And using 
tk it will run on windows as well.


My 2c... :)
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
>
> From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
>To: Rod Person  
>Cc: Jorge Biquez ; FreeBSD Questions 
> 
>Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
> 
>On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600
>> Jorge Biquez  wrote:
>>
>> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we
>> > would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows
>> > (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they
>> > are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop
>> > applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products
>> > at least.
>> >
>>
>> You could try mono and monodevelop
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr
>>
>> Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics
>> of .NET and C#.
>>
>> > Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use
>> > Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me
>> > create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even
>> > for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).
>>
>> You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run
>> on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine.
>>
>> If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I
>> haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications
>> that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows.
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rod Person        http://www.rodperson.com    rodper...@rodperson.com
>>
>> "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves
>>  that can be sold."
>> - Letter from Christopher Columbus.
>>  J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3
>>
>
>
>
>
>Lazarus is an IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) and its compiler
>is Free Pascal :
>
>
>http://www.freepascal.org/
>http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/
>
>
>When a program is developed in Lazarus , it can directly be compiled in
>Windows .
>There are a multitude of units for any kind of programming ( Web , Data
>base , etc. ) .
>
>Lazarus and FreePascal is available for FreeBSD , Linux , Windows , and
>many other operating systems .
>
>
>A study of the above sites will reveal their capabilities .
>
>http://wiki.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling_for_Win32_under_Linux
>http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling
>
>
>I did not use , but cross compiling should be possible by using Wine in
>FreeBSD to obtain Windows programs ( Windows versions of Lazarus and Free
>Pascal may be used in FreeBSD to generate Windows programs and they may be
>executed under Wine in FreeBSD for testing before transferred to Windows :
>This means a minimum number of Windows computer(s) may be used for final
>testing . ) .
>
>
>
>
>Thank you very much .
>
>
>Mehmet Erol Sanliturk


I do use Lazarus and FreePascal to develop professional applications, mainly I 
work on Linux and cross-compile to Win32/Win64. For FreeBsd I installed 
FreePascal on a Virtual Machine and compiled from it, I never tried 
cross-compiling from FreeBSD to other OSes, but I'm pretty sure it can be done.

An example of what I do is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc1RT-s-dw0


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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:37:37PM -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote:
>
> Hello all.
> 
> This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance.
> 
> I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to 
> prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they 
> are students also and have the basics concepts already)
> 
> Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple 
> applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a 
> database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote 
> database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months 
> and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to 
> use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern 
> machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, 
> text mode, and work from there.
> 
> Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we 
> would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows 
> (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they 
> are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop 
> applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at 
> least.
> 
> I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but 
> not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were 
> expensive on the deployment. The "runtimes" were not free and the 
> amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real 
> free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am 
> now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then 
> use open source software to develop graphical windows applications.
> 
> Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use 
> Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me 
> create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even 
> for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).
> 
> Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C 
> or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am 
> not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).
> 
> I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.
> 
> Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) 
> using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?
> 
> Would you do that with Python or something else?
> 
> Any extra advice is more than welcomed.
> 
> Thanks in advanced.
> 

Any reason you don't want to use Java?

OO, plenty of IDEs to choose from, ranging from vim to Eclipse which
run on both Windows and Unix.

If I wanted to develop for Windows (I don't), that's what I'd use so I
could develop my code using FreeBSD.

The best part is that Java skills are in demand. (I don't know if
that's the case in Mexico though).


Regards,

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person  wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600
> Jorge Biquez  wrote:
>
> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we
> > would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows
> > (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they
> > are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop
> > applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products
> > at least.
> >
>
> You could try mono and monodevelop
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr
>
> Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics
> of .NET and C#.
>
> > Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use
> > Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me
> > create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even
> > for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).
>
> You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run
> on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine.
>
> If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I
> haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications
> that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows.
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr
>
>
> --
> Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodper...@rodperson.com
>
> "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves
>  that can be sold."
> - Letter from Christopher Columbus.
>  J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3
>




Lazarus is an IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) and its compiler
is Free Pascal :


http://www.freepascal.org/
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/


When a program is developed in Lazarus , it can directly be compiled in
Windows .
There are a multitude of units for any kind of programming ( Web , Data
base , etc. ) .

Lazarus and FreePascal is available for FreeBSD , Linux , Windows , and
many other operating systems .


A study of the above sites will reveal their capabilities .

http://wiki.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling_for_Win32_under_Linux
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling


I did not use , but cross compiling should be possible by using Wine in
FreeBSD to obtain Windows programs ( Windows versions of Lazarus and Free
Pascal may be used in FreeBSD to generate Windows programs and they may be
executed under Wine in FreeBSD for testing before transferred to Windows :
This means a minimum number of Windows computer(s) may be used for final
testing . ) .




Thank you very much .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Rod Person
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600
Jorge Biquez  wrote:

> Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we
> would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows
> (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they
> are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop
> applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products
> at least.
> 

You could try mono and monodevelop
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr

Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics
of .NET and C#.

> Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use
> Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me
> create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even
> for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).

You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run
on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine.

If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I
haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications
that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr


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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote:

> Would you do that with Python or something else?
>

http://qt.nokia.com/

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:37:37PM -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote:
> 
> I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to
> prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they
> are students also and have the basics concepts already)

That's admirable.  I hope that works out.


> 
> Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple
> applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a
> database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote
> database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months
> and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want
> to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have
> modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install
> Freebsd, text mode, and work from there.
> 
> Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we
> would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows
> (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they
> are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop
> applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot
> products at least.

What kind of experience do you want these students to have when they
leave?  Do you just want them practiced in doing some general programming
with cross-platform tools, including database access and simple GUI work?
Do you want them to specifically work with commodity tools that will fit
in with mainstream job posting requirements on a resume?  Do you want
them to work with tools that will enable them to most easily expand their
experience on their own once they get done with the course of instruction
so they can more rapidly approach general competence and create useful
projects of their own very quickly, figuring they can then move on to
other tools and technologies as they decide which direction they want to
take their professional pursuits?  Do you just want it to be as easy as
possible?

Your top priority should probably help you make this decision.


> 
> I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows
> but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were
> expensive on the deployment. The "runtimes" were not free and the
> amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real
> free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am
> now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and
> then use open source software to develop graphical windows
> applications.
> 
> Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use
> Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me
> create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even
> for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).
> 
> Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C
> or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am
> not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).

Depending on your goals, anything from Ruby to C could be an excellent
choice.  LLVM/Clang is a great compiler suite for C; the mainstream Ruby
implementation will get you far; both can use platform-independent
graphical toolkits and database access libraries.  PostgreSQL is a great
DBMS distributed under a copyfree license, and it is well supported for
both these languages.  They're sorta on opposite ends of a spectrum,
though, so some kind of narrowing down of goals should be done before
arriving at any conclusions.


> 
> I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.
> 
> Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones)
> using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?

I've written C, C++, Ruby, Perl, and PHP on FreeBSD, for deployment in a
wide range of platform circumstances.  Some of my development has been
commercial, some of it just for fun, some to solve my own personal
problems. . . .

There's nothing wrong with FreeBSD as a development platform for most
purposes, especially if you want to work on portable software
development.  In fact, I think that for purposes of writing portable
code, it's difficult to do worse than FreeBSD, because it's probably
easier to move code from FreeBSD to Linux distributions, Apple MacOS, and
MS Windows due to social factors involved than the other way around.


> 
> Would you do that with Python or something else?

I personally am not the world's biggest Python fan, but my choice would
depend on the specific goals involved.  If you're leaning toward the
Python end of the spectrum, though, I (personally; your mileage may
differ) would probably choose Ruby instead.

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread William Brown
> 
> Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is 
> that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables 
> and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or 
> LInux or whatever runs Python).
> 

I think that python is a great learning language. I would certainly be teaching 
it to people as the first language to help build concepts.

However, FreeBSD, contains mono. Mono is avaliable on Linux and OSX, but it is 
on windows natively as .NET. You can easily create some great C# applications 
that would be cross platform using this tool. 

Finally, the best cross platform tool is a web service. So perhaps you should 
explore the Django or Ruby on Rails path?


Sincerely,

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread David Hughes
Not an expert by any means, but what about Mono, the open source and 
cross platform version of the .NET framework?


If you take a look at http://www.mono-project.com/Compatibility , you'll 
see that it's mostly compatible with .NET 4.0, and claims to be 100% 
compatible with .NET 3.5.


Java is also cross platform and will run on FreeBSD; or, like you say, 
you could use Python with TkInter; there's doubtless many other 
cross-platform solutions that I'm not aware of.


All best,

David


Hello all.

This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance.

I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to
prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are
students also and have the basics concepts already)

Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple
applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database,
desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web
based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to
work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of
Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until
now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work
from there.

Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would
like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all
know that's the market and here some companies is what they are
looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications
for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least.

I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but
not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive
on the deployment. The "runtimes" were not free and the amount of money
to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real free" excutables for
runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If
possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source
software to develop graphical windows applications.

Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton.
Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create
executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other
platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).

Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or
C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a
C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).

I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.

Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones)
using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?

Would you do that with Python or something else?

Any extra advice is more than welcomed.

Thanks in advanced.

Jorge Biquez

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Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Jorge Biquez

Hello all.

This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance.

I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to 
prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they 
are students also and have the basics concepts already)


Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple 
applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a 
database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote 
database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months 
and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to 
use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern 
machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, 
text mode, and work from there.


Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we 
would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows 
(we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they 
are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop 
applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least.


I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but 
not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were 
expensive on the deployment. The "runtimes" were not free and the 
amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real 
free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am 
now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then 
use open source software to develop graphical windows applications.


Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use 
Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me 
create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even 
for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python).


Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C 
or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am 
not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone).


I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this.

Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) 
using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution?


Would you do that with Python or something else?

Any extra advice is more than welcomed.

Thanks in advanced.

Jorge Biquez

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CAT Offers:
One Week trail period. For Integrating operating procedures and making them
understand your larger organizational goals.
Our Programmers work 48 Hrs a week.( Monday - Saturday )
Select candidates after interviewing. This will help you to bring qualified
professional specialists as needed for the job. We have talented young
professionals with an university education from the best universities,
proficient in US - English, UK - English, Spanish, and German.
Our Programmers work in your time zone. We have people supporting US and all
other continents.
We have a competitive edge as market leaders in India with lower cost of
operation in sourcing skilled developers and designers. We have a plan, to
cut your company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just
can't be ignored when you run a business.
We have a dedicated team that specializes in documentation and technical
writing with experience ranging from 4-10 years.
We believe and respect your clients' confidentiality.  We adhere to the
highest standards of confidentiality and ensure maximum security during data
transfer, storage and access.
CAT Support team is available 24/7.
Out Present Team size in INDIA:
VB.Net/C# Developers: 50 Members
Delphi Programmers: 18  Members
JSP/ Java Programmers: 25 Members
PHP Programmers: 20 Members

PHP/Perl Programmers: 10 Members
Web developers/Designers: 20  Members
System/Network Administrators (MCSE) (CCNA) (CCNP):15 Members
SQL Server DBA: 15 Members
Oracle DBA : 8 Members
ASP Programmers: 20 Members

Game Developers: 13 Members
Pocket PC Programmers: 10 Members

VXML Developers : 10 Members
Visual Fox Pro Programmers: 12 Members
Access Developers: 10 Members
QA testers: 15 Members
SAP Consultants : 15 Members

Visit us at--- www.cattechnologies.com

We are the leading Offshore Development service company in INDIA. We align
ourselves with our customers as partners to assist them in achieving their
goals and objectives. We would be delighted to demonstrate our offshore
Development services to you. Please let me know if you have any software
Development work to Outsource?

Dedicated Staff:
When you set up an offshore development center with CAT, you get the
following:
All hardware, software licensing and office infrastructure already in place
A dedicated team of professionals who will learn your business and become a
part of your team. Seamless collaboration between offshore office and client
project staff through live chat / email / voice / video .U.S. based contact
point to manage all issues throughout the relationship and insure success of
all projects. All staff assigned to your team will report directly to you or
your project manager and follow your directives and timelines.

Project Based:
Are you looking for professionals to help you build your projects?  If so,
consider CAT as your world class partner. We will work closely with you to
understand your project's requirements, deadlines, technologies and needs to
determine the best team to make your project a success. Also, you can decide
whether you plan to manage the project internally and utilize our
development and testing resources, or prefer to have one of our project
managers lead the team.

Maintenance Projects:
Just because your project is complete does not mean you don't need
professional technical support for your existing applications.  Our staff
are available to you on a dedicated basis to review your existing
applications and provide you the support and technical updates that are
needed to maintain the competitiveness of your applications. If you are a
new customer to CAT, ask us about our maintenance plans that enable you to
take care of your application beyond the major development phase.
Maintenance Services are available to your regardless where you had your
application developed.


Wide range of .Net Services we provide:
1.  Application Development using .NET
2.  Designing and Programming using .NET
3.  Migration web based and other applications to .NET
4.  Porting of Legacy applications to .NET based applications
5.  Support and Enhancement of existing applications in .NET
6.  User needs assessment / functional spec writing
7.  Website architecture design
8.  User Interface design
9.  Graphic artwork development with Photoshop & Im

Software Development

2007-12-12 Thread kevin smith
Dear Manager,  
   
  Hope you are doing great! 
   
  The purpose of this letter is to introduce you to CAT Technology Inc and our 
Offshore Dedicated Staff Development services. We have a plan, to cut your 
company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just can't be 
ignored when you run a business.
   
  Investments for hiring a skilled offshore development team in India are much 
less due to cost of living differences. So, our client gets skilled Programmers 
at very less investment. The client also saves on employment taxes and other 
overheads. Thus start planning for future needs and get rid of the hassle of 
finding and retaining qualified programmers.
   
  CAT Offers:
   
  1.   One Week trail period. For Integrating operating procedures and 
making them understand your larger organizational goals. 
  2.   Our Programmers work 48 Hrs a week.( Monday - Saturday ) 
  3.   Select candidates after interviewing. This will help you to bring 
qualified professional specialists as needed for the job. We have talented 
young professionals with an university education from the best universities, 
proficient in US - English, UK - English, Spanish, and German. 
  4.   Our Programmers work in your time zone. We have people supporting US 
and all other continents. 
  5.   We have a competitive edge as market leaders in India with lower 
cost of operation in sourcing skilled developers and designers. We have a plan, 
to cut your company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just 
can't be ignored when you run a business. 
  6.   We have a dedicated team that specializes in documentation and 
technical writing with experience ranging from 4-10 years. 
  7.   We believe and respect your clients' confidentiality.  We adhere to 
the highest standards of confidentiality and ensure maximum security during 
data transfer, storage and access. 
  8.   CAT Support team is available 24/7.
   
  Out Present Team size in INDIA:
VB.Net/C# Developers: 50 Members
Delphi Programmers: 18  Members
JSP/ Java Programmers: 25 Members
PHP Programmers: 20 Members
  PHP/Perl Programmers: 10 Members
Web developers/Designers: 20  Members
System/Network Administrators (MCSE) (CCNA) (CCNP):15 Members
SQL Server DBA: 15 Members
Oracle DBA : 8 Members
ASP Programmers: 20 Members
  Game Developers: 13 Members
Pocket PC Programmers: 10 Members
  VXML Developers : 10 Members
Visual Fox Pro Programmers: 12 Members
Access Developers: 10 Members
QA testers: 15 Members
SAP Consultants : 15 Members
   
  Visit us at--- www.cattechnologies.com
   
  We are the leading Offshore Development service company in INDIA. We align 
ourselves with our customers as partners to assist them in achieving their 
goals and objectives. We would be delighted to demonstrate our offshore 
Development services to you. Please let me know if you have any software 
Development work to Outsource? 
   
  Dedicated Staff:
When you set up an offshore development center with CAT, you get the following: 
All hardware, software licensing and office infrastructure already in place A 
dedicated team of professionals who will learn your business and become a part 
of your team. Seamless collaboration between offshore office and client project 
staff through live chat / email / voice / video .U.S. based contact point to 
manage all issues throughout the relationship and insure success of all 
projects. All staff assigned to your team will report directly to you or your 
project manager and follow your directives and timelines.
   
  Project Based:
Are you looking for professionals to help you build your projects?  If so, 
consider CAT as your world class partner. We will work closely with you to 
understand your project's requirements, deadlines, technologies and needs to 
determine the best team to make your project a success. Also, you can decide 
whether you plan to manage the project internally and utilize our development 
and testing resources, or prefer to have one of our project managers lead the 
team. 
   
  Maintenance Projects:
Just because your project is complete does not mean you don’t need professional 
technical support for your existing applications.  Our staff are available to 
you on a dedicated basis to review your existing applications and provide you 
the support and technical updates that are needed to maintain the 
competitiveness of your applications. If you are a new customer to CAT, ask us 
about our maintenance plans that enable you to take care of your application 
beyond the major development phase.  Maintenance Services are available to your 
regardless where you had your application developed.
   
  Wide range of .Net Services we provide:
1.  Application Development using .NET
2.  Designing and Programming using .NET
3.  Migration web based and other applications to .NET
4.  Porting of Legacy applications to .NET based applications
5.  Support and Enhancement of e

Software Development

2007-12-05 Thread Kawaljeet Singh
Dear Manager,

Hope you are doing great!

The purpose of this letter is to introduce you to CAT Technology Inc and our
Offshore Dedicated Staff Development services. We have a plan, to cut your
company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just can't be
ignored when you run a business.

Investments for hiring a skilled offshore development team in India are much
less due to cost of living differences. So, our client gets skilled
Programmers at very less investment. The client also saves on employment
taxes and other overheads. Thus start planning for future needs and get rid
of the hassle of finding and retaining qualified programmers.

CAT Offers:
One Week trail period. For Integrating operating procedures and making them
understand your larger organizational goals.
Our Programmers work 48 Hrs a week.( Monday - Saturday )
Select candidates after interviewing. This will help you to bring qualified
professional specialists as needed for the job. We have talented young
professionals with an university education from the best universities,
proficient in US - English, UK - English, Spanish, and German.
Our Programmers work in your time zone. We have people supporting US and all
other continents.
We have a competitive edge as market leaders in India with lower cost of
operation in sourcing skilled developers and designers. We have a plan, to
cut your company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just
can't be ignored when you run a business.
We have a dedicated team that specializes in documentation and technical
writing with experience ranging from 4-10 years.
We believe and respect your clients' confidentiality.  We adhere to the
highest standards of confidentiality and ensure maximum security during data
transfer, storage and access.
CAT Support team is available 24/7.
Out Present Team size in INDIA:
VB.Net/C# Developers: 50 Members
Delphi Programmers: 18  Members
JSP/ Java Programmers: 25 Members
PHP Programmers: 20 Members

PHP/Perl Programmers: 10 Members
Web developers/Designers: 20  Members
System/Network Administrators (MCSE) (CCNA) (CCNP):15 Members
SQL Server DBA: 15 Members
Oracle DBA : 8 Members
ASP Programmers: 20 Members

Game Developers: 13 Members
Pocket PC Programmers: 10 Members

VXML Developers : 10 Members
Visual Fox Pro Programmers: 12 Members
Access Developers: 10 Members
QA testers: 15 Members
SAP Consultants : 15 Members

Visit us at--- www.cattechnologies.com

We are the leading Offshore Development service company in INDIA. We align
ourselves with our customers as partners to assist them in achieving their
goals and objectives. We would be delighted to demonstrate our offshore
Development services to you. Please let me know if you have any software
Development work to Outsource?

Dedicated Staff:
When you set up an offshore development center with CAT, you get the
following:
All hardware, software licensing and office infrastructure already in place
A dedicated team of professionals who will learn your business and become a
part of your team. Seamless collaboration between offshore office and client
project staff through live chat / email / voice / video .U.S. based contact
point to manage all issues throughout the relationship and insure success of
all projects. All staff assigned to your team will report directly to you or
your project manager and follow your directives and timelines.

Project Based:
Are you looking for professionals to help you build your projects?  If so,
consider CAT as your world class partner. We will work closely with you to
understand your project's requirements, deadlines, technologies and needs to
determine the best team to make your project a success. Also, you can decide
whether you plan to manage the project internally and utilize our
development and testing resources, or prefer to have one of our project
managers lead the team.

Maintenance Projects:
Just because your project is complete does not mean you don't need
professional technical support for your existing applications.  Our staff
are available to you on a dedicated basis to review your existing
applications and provide you the support and technical updates that are
needed to maintain the competitiveness of your applications. If you are a
new customer to CAT, ask us about our maintenance plans that enable you to
take care of your application beyond the major development phase.
Maintenance Services are available to your regardless where you had your
application developed.


Wide range of .Net Services we provide:
1.  Application Development using .NET
2.  Designing and Programming using .NET
3.  Migration web based and other applications to .NET
4.  Porting of Legacy applications to .NET based applications
5.  Support and Enhancement of existing applications in .NET
6.  User needs assessment / functional spec writing
7.  Website architecture design
8.  User Interface design
9.  Graphic artwork development with Photoshop & Im

Software Development.

2007-10-04 Thread technologys cat
Dear Manager,



Hope you are doing great!



The purpose of this letter is to introduce you to CAT Technology Inc and our
Offshore Dedicated Staff Development services. *We have a plan, to cut your
company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our prices just can't be
ignored when you run a business.*



Investments for hiring a skilled offshore development team in India** are
much less due to cost of living differences. So, our client gets skilled
Programmers at very less investment. The client also saves on employment
taxes and other overheads. Thus start planning for future needs and get rid
of the hassle of finding and retaining qualified programmers.



*CAT Offers:*

   1. *One Week trail period.* For Integrating operating procedures and
   making them understand your larger organizational goals.
   2. *Our Programmers work 48 Hrs a week*.( Monday - Saturday )
   3. *Select candidates after interviewing.* This will help you to bring
   qualified professional specialists as needed for the job. We have
   talented young professionals with an university education from the best
   universities, proficient in US - English, UK** - English, Spanish, and
   German.
   4. *Our Programmers work in your time zone*. We have people supporting
   US and all other continents.
   5. We have a competitive edge as market leaders in India** with *lower
   cost of operation *in sourcing skilled developers and designers. We
   have a plan, to cut your company's expenses and make it more profitable. Our
   prices just can't be ignored when you run a business.
   6. We have a *dedicated team that specializes in documentation and
   technical writing* with experience ranging from 4-10 years.
   7. We believe and respect your clients' confidentiality.  *We adhere
   to the highest standards of confidentiality and ensure maximum security
   during data transfer, storage and access.*
   8. *CAT Support team is available 24/7*.

*Out Present Team size in **INDIA:*
VB.Net/C# Developers: 50 Members
Delphi Programmers: 18  Members
JSP/ Java Programmers: 25 Members
PHP Programmers: 20 Members

PHP/Perl Programmers: 10 Members
Web developers/Designers: 20  Members
System/Network Administrators (MCSE) (CCNA) (CCNP):15 Members
SQL Server DBA: 15 Members
Oracle DBA : 8 Members
ASP Programmers: 20 Members

Game Developers: 13 Members
Pocket PC Programmers: 10 Members

VXML Developers : 10 Members
Visual Fox Pro Programmers: 12 Members
Access Developers: 10 Members
QA testers: 15 Members
SAP Consultants : 15 Members



*Visit us at---* *www.cattechnologies.com***



We are the leading Offshore Development service company in INDIA**. We align
ourselves with our customers as partners to assist them in achieving their
goals and objectives. We would be delighted to demonstrate our offshore
Development services to you. Please let me know if you have any software
Development work to Outsource?



*Dedicated Staff:*
When you set up an offshore development center with CAT, you get the
following:
All hardware, software licensing and office infrastructure already in place
A dedicated team of professionals who will learn your business and become a
part of your team. Seamless collaboration between offshore office and client
project staff through live chat / email / voice / video .U.S. based contact
point to manage all issues throughout the relationship and insure success of
all projects. All staff assigned to your team will report directly to you or
your project manager and follow your directives and timelines.



*Project Based:*
Are you looking for professionals to help you build your projects?  If so,
consider CAT as your world class partner. We will work closely with you to
understand your project's requirements, deadlines, technologies and needs to
determine the best team to make your project a success. Also, you can decide
whether you plan to manage the project internally and utilize our
development and testing resources, or prefer to have one of our project
managers lead the team.



*Maintenance Projects:*
Just because your project is complete does not mean you don't need
professional technical support for your existing applications.  Our staff
are available to you on a dedicated basis to review your existing
applications and provide you the support and technical updates that are
needed to maintain the competitiveness of your applications. If you are a
new customer to CAT, ask us about our maintenance plans that enable you to
take care of your application beyond the major development phase.
Maintenance Services are available to your regardless where you had your
application developed.



*Wide range of .Net Services we provide:*
1.  Application Development using .NET
2.  Designing and Programming using .NET
3.  Migration web based and other applications to .NET
4.  Porting of Legacy applications to .NET based applications
5.  Support and Enhancement of existing applications in .NET
6.  User needs a