THE HACKINTOSH
Hello... Seems that I was acused of "warez", "pirate...", So, please if you to to the site of hackintosh, you will see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away the software they use to build macos... so there is Darwin if you look at http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource it show all the Leopards including the 10.5.6 (source code)... I did not see any restriction of use, for darwin, (well may be a commercial use???) If you start with a binary version (http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz) please note that it comes from the apple site... and download the last one, with some work (in reality a lot) you will end with a Leopard (TM) without apple marks... I do not think this is ilegal, and I am not playing warez. In fact I am doing the same thing with opensolaris... get opensolaris (binary), then get the sources (from sun) and compiling the gnome 2.24 on top of it may be the final product be called hacklaris I needed it because my clients needs internet and with it a good imfamious flash player... that, in FreeBSD is not available with the stability I have on solaris... in fact, it is much more stable than the linux version besides the "virtual" (virtualbox, xen, zones) is far more stable on solaris there are places (in the corporate world...) that the SUN brand counts... and counts a lot... I think also that a person jump from the "microsoft cage" to the "apple cage" he still is in the "cage"... Users, nowadays (even the "naive" ones) soon realize that they need freedom. We, with FreeBSD, gives us freedom, power, ease of use... Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
THE HACKINTOSH
Hello... Seems that I was acused of "warez", "pirate...", So, please if you go to the site of hackintosh, you will see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away the software they use to build macos... so there is Darwin if you look at http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource it show all the Leopards including the 10.5.6 (source code)... I did not see any restriction of use, for darwin, (well may be a commercial use???) If you start with a binary version (http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz) please note that it comes from the apple site... and download the last one, with some work (in reality a lot) you will end with a Leopard (TM) without apple marks... I do not think this is ilegal, and I am not playing warez. In fact I am doing the same thing with opensolaris... get opensolaris (binary), then get the sources (from sun) and compiling the gnome 2.24 on top of it may be the final product be called hacklaris I needed it because my clients needs internet and with it a good imfamious flash player... that, in FreeBSD is not available with the stability I have on solaris... in fact, it is much more stable than the linux version besides the "virtual" (virtualbox, xen, zones) is far more stable on solaris there are places (in the corporate world...) that the SUN brand counts... and counts a lot... I think also that a person jump from the "microsoft cage" to the "apple cage" he still is in the "cage"... Users, nowadays (even the "naive" ones) soon realize that they need freedom. We, with FreeBSD, gives us freedom, power, ease of use... Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: THE HACKINTOSH
On Sat 28 Feb 2009 at 08:54:30 PST Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: So, please if you to to the site of hackintosh, you will see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away the software they use to build I believe you're right. It's important to distinguish between Darwin, the kernel on which OS X is based, and the full OS X suite which includes the Quartz graphics engine and Aqua user interface. It's only the latter which is restricted to Apple hardware. As long as the Hackintosh project isn't using any of the restricted software, there shouldn't be any license violation. But frankly, once you give up the things that give OS X its "pretty face", you might as well install FreeBSD instead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: THE HACKINTOSH
-- From: "Sergio de Almeida Lenzi" Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:54 AM To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: THE HACKINTOSH Hello... Seems that I was acused of "warez", "pirate...", So, please if you to to the site of hackintosh, you will see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away the software they use to build macos... so there is Darwin if you look at http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource it show all the Leopards including the 10.5.6 (source code)... I did not see any restriction of use, for darwin, (well may be a commercial use???) Apple is NOT GPL. Since the code is based on BSD Licensed code, the don't have to do anything they don't want to. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: THE HACKINTOSH
Uhm not quite Sergio please see some correction's below On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > So, please if you to to the site of hackintosh, you will > see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because > of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away > the software they use to build macos... Mac OS X is build on MACH 3.0 and FreeBSD 5 MACH 3.0, requires both a 4.3BSD license (Apple has one because of they're A-UX project years ago) and a MACH license (from Cernegie Mellon Univercity -- which they have because they bought NextSTEP). http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/FAQ/license.info FreeBSD is BSD licensed and as a result completely free system. http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html As you can see there is no GPL encumbered code in the kernel/initial userland and therefore there is no "must give away" anything. Also the GPL is not a copyright it is a license. Two susinctly different things. > so there is Darwin if you look at > http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource > it show all the Leopards including the 10.5.6 (source code)... > I did not see any restriction of use, for darwin, (well may be a commercial > use???) Darwin is well Darwin, "Leopard" is a userland codebase that sits ontop of Darwin x.y.z For more details : http://www.opensource.apple.com and http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ > If you start with a binary version > (http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz) > please note that it comes from the apple site... > and download the last one, with some work (in reality a lot) you will > end with a Leopard (TM) without apple marks... Please see above commentary,... you will not end up with "Leopard" you will land up with a Leopard-like Darwin. > I do not think this is ilegal, and I am not playing warez. Perfectly legal so long as you're not hacking/compiling a cracked/stolent Aqua user interface onto you're Darwin. > In fact I am doing the same thing with opensolaris... > get opensolaris (binary), then get the sources (from sun) and compiling the > gnome 2.24 on top of it > may be the final product be called hacklaris Why not just start with an OpenSolaris and update it??? Would save you a LOT of work. > I needed it because my clients needs internet and with it a good imfamious > flash player... that, in FreeBSD > is not available with the stability I have on solaris... in fact, it is > much more stable than the linux version > besides the "virtual" (virtualbox, xen, zones) is far more stable on > solaris > there are places (in the corporate world...) that the SUN brand counts... > and counts a lot... None of this makes ANY sense,... I use many different Unices professionally and see no real stability differences with Flash (maybe I just set it up differently???) As for the virtualization VirtualBox and Xen are cross platform so I don't know where you're going there? Solaris Zones are cool, but essentially replacable with BSD jails of Linux virtual servers (not virtualized servers mind). I think also that a person jump from the "microsoft cage" to the "apple > cage" he still is in the "cage"... > Users, nowadays (even the "naive" ones) soon realize that they need > freedom. Sometimes those cages (which I dont like either) provide nice manuals/courses/user interfaces that less technical people prefer. Lets not start an OS preeching war again lol -- "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: THE HACKINTOSH
2009/2/28 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi : > Hello... > > Seems that I was acused of "warez", "pirate...", > > > So, please if you to to the site of hackintosh, you will > see that it is a Darwin, Macos is based on Darwin, and because > of the copyright (the famous GPL...) apple must give away > the software they use to build macos... > so there is Darwin if you look at http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource > it show all the Leopards including the 10.5.6 (source code)... > I did not see any restriction of use, for darwin, (well may be a commercial > use???) > > If you start with a binary version > (http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz) > please note that it comes from the apple site... > and download the last one, with some work (in reality a lot) you will > end with a Leopard (TM) without apple marks... > > I do not think this is ilegal, and I am not playing warez. > > In fact I am doing the same thing with opensolaris... > get opensolaris (binary), then get the sources (from sun) and compiling the > gnome 2.24 on top of it > may be the final product be called hacklaris > I needed it because my clients needs internet and with it a good imfamious > flash player... that, in FreeBSD > is not available with the stability I have on solaris... in fact, it is much > more stable than the linux version > besides the "virtual" (virtualbox, xen, zones) is far more stable on > solaris > there are places (in the corporate world...) that the SUN brand counts... and > counts a lot... > > I think also that a person jump from the "microsoft cage" to the "apple > cage" he still is in the "cage"... > Users, nowadays (even the "naive" ones) soon realize that they need freedom. > We, with FreeBSD, gives > us freedom, power, ease of use... > > Sergio > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > Your original post: Hello... I use a free version of the Leopard based on darwin (freebsd6) named "hackintosh" it is the google, it is free, and just works... You can even buy a "standard" notebook, and install. I will transform the notebook in an apple leopard 10. It is a DVD of 4Gb.. Sergio --- End original post --- There is no free version of 'the Leopard', and Darwin is NOT FreeBSD. Your offer to 'transform the notebook into an apple leopard 10' meant what, exactly? Put GNOME on top of Darwin, and call it Mac OS Leopard? Also, where is this 'hackintosh' distribution? The first page of Google from searching 'hackintosh' lead to most sites referring to OSx86. This is putting aside the fact that your post was useless to anyone wanting to read anything other than 'look at me!', and completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. And no-one said 'pirate' in the mailing list. Chris -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
