Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-17 Thread perryh
Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as
 there is memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong
 with it.

If you don't mind losing everything currently on the drive,
overwriting the MBR -- and the backup GPT at the end of the drive,
if the BIOS supports GPT/UEFI -- would surely keep it from booting
into Windows.  You'd probably have to take the drive out, and
connect it to a different machine (since this one's BIOS seems
hardwired to boot only from the hard drive).

Another possibility would be to clear the machine's CMOS, if there's
a way to do that.  Desktop mainboards usually have a jumper for the
purpose; dunno about Samsung laptops but removing the CMOS battery
and giving it a few minutes for the stray capacitance to discharge
should suffice.  (Getting to the CMOS battery may involve taking the
case apart.)
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-17 Thread Chip Oakley
Thanks interesting possibilities.

One thought I had is creating an operating system independent BIOS where
the appropriate machine code is inserted into the events that lead to an
override of the processes that is forcing into windows. Maybe burned to a
CD or USB,  from another computer and tie the low level to a keyboard
function,  Like pressing F2 etc, at boot to access new BIOS functionality.

Is this possible?

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

 Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com wrote:

  Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as
  there is memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong
  with it.

 If you don't mind losing everything currently on the drive,
 overwriting the MBR -- and the backup GPT at the end of the drive,
 if the BIOS supports GPT/UEFI -- would surely keep it from booting
 into Windows.  You'd probably have to take the drive out, and
 connect it to a different machine (since this one's BIOS seems
 hardwired to boot only from the hard drive).

 Another possibility would be to clear the machine's CMOS, if there's
 a way to do that.  Desktop mainboards usually have a jumper for the
 purpose; dunno about Samsung laptops but removing the CMOS battery
 and giving it a few minutes for the stray capacitance to discharge
 should suffice.  (Getting to the CMOS battery may involve taking the
 case apart.)




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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock

On 02/17/12 19:58, Chip Oakley wrote:

Thanks interesting possibilities.

One thought I had is creating an operating system independent BIOS where
the appropriate machine code is inserted into the events that lead to an
override of the processes that is forcing into windows. Maybe burned to a
CD or USB,  from another computer and tie the low level to a keyboard
function,  Like pressing F2 etc, at boot to access new BIOS functionality.

Is this possible?

I don't believe so.

Its not really that hardwired to windows, not in my experience; it is a 
real PITA though. If you play your cards right and you know enough about 
BIOS you will get it. With the new laptops they really try hard to stick 
windows like shit on your laptop. But they can't _make_ you use it.


New HP laptops (like the ones I use), can take a few goes to get it to 
install. Asus are about the same. Just watch your boot ordering and you 
will be fine.


I keep reiterating using USB to install because it really does simplify 
matters.


In the BIOS you usually find about 3 entries to set the boot order. One 
is to set the boot order (removable, hdd, or network), one for which 
removable (cdrom, usb cdrom, usb floppy, etc), and one for hdd priority 
(here is where your usb disk will show up, and you _will_ have to set it 
as boot every time, but it will boot).


Set the boot order for removable, hdd, network (or disable if you like). 
Set the removable to cdrom. Set the hdd (temporarily because as I said 
it _will_ change) to the usb disk. Voila! it will start the install.


I have found the cdrom to be fickle on the new laptops for booting, I'm 
not sure exactly why but I suspect the confusion of removable drives in 
the BIOS. I'm not a samsung expert, but most laptop BIOS are very 
similar (at least ones in the same era).


#1 Get a BIOS expert to help if you can't get this figured. They will be 
able to show you exactly what to do in front of you in about 5-10 mins. 
Easier to understand if its visually shown to you rather than described.


Once you jump this hurdle you will do just fine.


On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM,per...@pluto.rain.com  wrote:


Chip Oakleysilverskymus...@gmail.com  wrote:


Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as
there is memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong
with it.

If you don't mind losing everything currently on the drive,
overwriting the MBR -- and the backup GPT at the end of the drive,
if the BIOS supports GPT/UEFI -- would surely keep it from booting
into Windows.  You'd probably have to take the drive out, and
connect it to a different machine (since this one's BIOS seems
hardwired to boot only from the hard drive).

Another possibility would be to clear the machine's CMOS, if there's
a way to do that.  Desktop mainboards usually have a jumper for the
purpose; dunno about Samsung laptops but removing the CMOS battery
and giving it a few minutes for the stray capacitance to discharge
should suffice.  (Getting to the CMOS battery may involve taking the
case apart.)






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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Chip Oakley wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am upgrading to BSD from windows.
 
 I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
 remember.
 
 I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made sure
 to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.

There's 2 types of PC boot CDs I believe, FreeBSD changed to the
newer method in last year or so I think (maybe just for 8.* ?), so
if yours is an older PC it might be looking for the other sort. You
could try a few years old (eg 6.* or probably 7.*) FreeBSD CDROM
for interest to see if that boots.


 Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD

Question not clear.
You can access to read  execute all files from CDROM, by using the LIVEFS
(live file system) option.

To access files on the MS partition[s],
If fdisk shows the MS still present you can also mount the MS file systems from 
BSD (regardless whether BSD is booted  running from CD or hard disk)

For that you would need either
mount -t msdosfs .  if its an older FS  or
mount -t ntfs -r .  if its a newer NTFS
it only support read only mode,
That mount command calls eg 
/sbin/mount_msdosfs
/sbin/mount_ntfs
Thats where they are on a hard disc.
If FreeBSD hasnt installed yet, you'll find them I recall under 
something like /mnt2/sbin/mount_msdosfs
(I think the cd is already mounted)
If you want to write individual files on an MS NTFS you need ntfs-3g
which is partly broken (one error noted in my
 http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/shrink/
 a lot easier to run from a hard disk working system.

 and overwrite
 windows for my BSD installation?

Well if you just wanted to trash the MS  not recover data ?
that's easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,
but you could always try something like 
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 count=1000
DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Technical Support Question (fwd)

2012-02-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Please keep on list so others can help you too.
Forwarded from: Julian Stacey j...@berklix.com http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/

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Hi Julian and thanks for you reply.


- 
-
Well if you just wanted to trash the MS  not recover data ?
that's easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,
but you could always try something like
   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 count=1000
DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE
- 

This is what I would like to do, but windows restored to an older version
where i do not remember login pswd, as mentioned.

So automatically boots to the security layer and overrides the reordering
in the BIOS

I have phoenix BIOS to set to CD boot first

I am not advanced enough to know what you mean by the if then statements.
please enlighten.

I will try using an older version per your suggestion and let you know how
it goes

Thanks again




On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:

 Chip Oakley wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I am upgrading to BSD from windows.
 
  I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
  remember.
 
  I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made
 sure
  to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.

 There's 2 types of PC boot CDs I believe, FreeBSD changed to the
 newer method in last year or so I think (maybe just for 8.* ?), so
 if yours is an older PC it might be looking for the other sort. You
 could try a few years old (eg 6.* or probably 7.*) FreeBSD CDROM
 for interest to see if that boots.


  Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD

 Question not clear.
 You can access to read  execute all files from CDROM, by using the LIVEFS
 (live file system) option.

 To access files on the MS partition[s],
 If fdisk shows the MS still present you can also mount the MS file systems
 from BSD (regardless whether BSD is booted  running from CD or hard disk)

 For that you would need either
mount -t msdosfs .  if its an older FS  or
mount -t ntfs -r .  if its a newer NTFS
it only support read only mode,
That mount command calls eg
/sbin/mount_msdosfs
/sbin/mount_ntfs
Thats where they are on a hard disc.
If FreeBSD hasnt installed yet, you'll find them I recall under
something like /mnt2/sbin/mount_msdosfs
(I think the cd is already mounted)
 If you want to write individual files on an MS NTFS you need ntfs-3g
 which is partly broken (one error noted in my
 http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/shrink/
  a lot easier to run from a hard disk working system.

  and overwrite
  windows for my BSD installation?

 Well if you just wanted to trash the MS  not recover data ?
 that's easy, the fdisk within BSD install should do it,
 but you could always try something like
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 count=1000
 DO NOT TRY THAT ON ANY SYSTEM WITH ANY DATA YOU VALUE

 Cheers,
 Julian
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
 You claim to have made a CD on nother machine.  Will _that_ machine boot from
 the CD you made?  If not, you made the CD incorrectly.


Good point
 Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com
Please first make sure you are subscribed to this list
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,
as I see you have fallen off cc list.
BTW a delayed archive of this  other lists in on the web.

Next check the MD5 checksum of your boot media.

Next also realise some drives cant read what other drives had written,
sometimes that maybe alignement or dirt on the optics,
someties it simply cos eg some old drives cant read those half see through
RW media, sometime some old drives cant read an RW media.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Chip Oakley
Thanks for your reply.

The boot CD will boot on the other machine, but not on the computer for my
intended install of BSD.

I set the boot order to boot first from CD ROM in phoenix BIOS.

It is a Samsung Laptop it is windows 7 home edition I called Samsung and
they have no information on overriding a windows password only restoring to
an older version which got my here in the first place.

There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.
Pressing any key only leads to that same screen in windows asking for the
password, except for the function keys that lead to BIOS configuration.

Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as there is
memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong with it.

Cant imagine there is not a fix somewhere.

Any other ideas?

Regards

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:

  You claim to have made a CD on nother machine.  Will _that_ machine boot
 from
  the CD you made?  If not, you made the CD incorrectly.


 Good point
 Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com
 Please first make sure you are subscribed to this list
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,
 as I see you have fallen off cc list.
 BTW a delayed archive of this  other lists in on the web.

 Next check the MD5 checksum of your boot media.

 Next also realise some drives cant read what other drives had written,
 sometimes that maybe alignement or dirt on the optics,
 someties it simply cos eg some old drives cant read those half see through
 RW media, sometime some old drives cant read an RW media.

 Cheers,
 Julian
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.comwrote:


 There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.


This message usually originates from a Windows boot CD, not a FreeBSD one.
Is there more than one CDROM in the system?

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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Chip Oakley
No, unfort.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.comwrote:


 There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.


 This message usually originates from a Windows boot CD, not a FreeBSD
 one.  Is there more than one CDROM in the system?

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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
 Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as there is
 memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong with it.

I suggest temporarily disconnect data cable of old disc,
(no need to unscrew it  replace with another hard disc yet),

Then push reset,  see if the raw PC + BIOS is capable of reading
 booting the FreeBSD CD with No hard disc.

If PC still cant boot the FreeBSD CD, see if PC can boot some/any other
bootable CD eg another BSD Linux MS whatever, any CD been proved bootable
on other machines.

Take it small step by step, decouple the questions
can that PC read any cdroms
can that PC read that particular cdrom
can that PC boot from cdroms
can that PC boot from that particular cdroms
does the BIOS correctly use the specified boot order or ignore it.

Some BIOSES are weird, / cussid.
I think I met one where if one didnt tell it to boot off
floppy it would not boot off cd either, or similar.)

I certainly met one where PC just wouldnt work right after I 
reviewed  set every damn option on every page.
Then I reset to boot defaults (slow) then to defaults optimised,
then I reset every option as I wanted it, then the PC worked fine.
What that told me is that BIOS in its default reset, was
resetting some values that it then never l;ater displayed
in its menus.

Cheers,
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Bonomi
Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your reply.

 The boot CD will boot on the other machine, but not on the computer for my
 intended install of BSD.

 I set the boot order to boot first from CD ROM in phoenix BIOS.

 It is a Samsung Laptop it is windows 7 home edition I called Samsung and
 they have no information on overriding a windows password only restoring to
 an older version which got my here in the first place.

 There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.
 Pressing any key only leads to that same screen in windows asking for the
 password, except for the function keys that lead to BIOS configuration.

 Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as there is
 memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong with it.

 Cant imagine there is not a fix somewhere.

First things first. 
  1) DOUBLE CHECK the CD you're trying to boot from.  Make sure it boots in 
 the other machine, *and* what O/S it boots into.
  2) Go into the BIOS settings on the Samsung -- look at _all_ the settings.
 especially for the 'boot device' list.  Make sure you are *not* trying
 to boot from a 'recovery partition', or 'installation disk' choice.
 Better yet, tell us _exactly_ how all the boot device options read, IN
 the order they are displayed.
  3) IF you can, _remove_ the hard disk from the list of boot devices.
 If not, *disable* the IDE device probing/disk type for the disks, but leave
 the CD drive active..
  4) now try booting -without- a CD in the drive.  The 'desired outcome' is a
 '*failure* to boot' message -- with a fair chance that it will ask you to
 insert a bootable disk and retry.
  5) If it gives a retry option, put the CD in the drive and do what it says 
 to retry.  If no retry option, put the CD in the drive, and give it the
 well known three-finger salute.
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Da Rock

On 02/17/12 05:11, Chip Oakley wrote:

Thanks for your reply.

The boot CD will boot on the other machine, but not on the computer for my
intended install of BSD.

I set the boot order to boot first from CD ROM in phoenix BIOS.

It is a Samsung Laptop it is windows 7 home edition I called Samsung and
they have no information on overriding a windows password only restoring to
an older version which got my here in the first place.

There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.
Pressing any key only leads to that same screen in windows asking for the
password, except for the function keys that lead to BIOS configuration.

Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as there is
memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong with it.

Cant imagine there is not a fix somewhere.

Any other ideas?
Look, these new laptop BIOS' can be most frustrating. Try a USB install 
using the memstick img - thats how I installed finally. I got jack of 
the messing about with the security measures they take on laptops these 
days.


For reference, the boot settings in BIOS are pretty dynamic on the 
laptops now, so if you set the boot order it may change the next time 
you reboot from whatever you're doing. It _should_ let you do what you 
want once you exit BIOS though. And make sure of the boot order, it may 
be confusing. If you know someone who knows BIOS better, use them to 
help. Also look for a boot order key when you do boot up, this will do 
for a temp measure but you will have to be quick.


You should probably make a decision about what you're going to do with 
the restore partition as well. You can make the disks on CD/DVD if you 
want so you can restore later, then dump it. Be aware (in this decision) 
that manufacturers can be real shits about *not* having Windows 
installed when you warranty repair. You may not want to have the fights 
like I have. Their policies _are_ illegal, but sometimes you may not 
want to have that particular argument... :)


Regards

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com  wrote:


You claim to have made a CD on nother machine.  Will _that_ machine boot

from

the CD you made?  If not, you made the CD incorrectly.


Good point
 Chip Oakleysilverskymus...@gmail.com
Please first make sure you are subscribed to this list
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,
as I see you have fallen off cc list.
BTW a delayed archive of this  other lists in on the web.

Next check the MD5 checksum of your boot media.

Next also realise some drives cant read what other drives had written,
sometimes that maybe alignement or dirt on the optics,
someties it simply cos eg some old drives cant read those half see through
RW media, sometime some old drives cant read an RW media.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-16 Thread Da Rock

On 02/17/12 05:11, Chip Oakley wrote:

Thanks for your reply.

The boot CD will boot on the other machine, but not on the computer for my
intended install of BSD.

I set the boot order to boot first from CD ROM in phoenix BIOS.

It is a Samsung Laptop it is windows 7 home edition I called Samsung and
they have no information on overriding a windows password only restoring to
an older version which got my here in the first place.

There is a prompt at Startup stating press any key to boot from CD.
Pressing any key only leads to that same screen in windows asking for the
password, except for the function keys that lead to BIOS configuration.

Am tempted to remove the drive and insert a new one, not sure as there is
memory on the drive available and nothing really wrong with it.

Cant imagine there is not a fix somewhere.

Any other ideas?
Look, these new laptop BIOS' can be most frustrating. Try a USB install 
using the memstick img - thats how I installed finally. I got jack of 
the messing about with the security measures they take on laptops these 
days.


For reference, the boot settings in BIOS are pretty dynamic on the 
laptops now, so if you set the boot order it may change the next time 
you reboot from whatever you're doing. It _should_ let you do what you 
want once you exit BIOS though. And make sure of the boot order, it may 
be confusing. If you know someone who knows BIOS better, use them to 
help. Also look for a boot order key at boot up, this will change the 
boot order temporarily but you will have to be quick.


You should probably make a decision about what you're going to do with 
the restore partition as well. You can make the disks on CD/DVD if you 
want so you can restore later, then dump it. Be aware (in this decision) 
that manufacturers can be real shits about *not* having Windows 
installed when you warranty repair. You may not want to have the fights 
like I have. Their policies _are_ illegal, but sometimes you may not 
want to have that particular argument... :)

Regards

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com  wrote:


You claim to have made a CD on nother machine.  Will _that_ machine boot

from

the CD you made?  If not, you made the CD incorrectly.

Good point
 Chip Oakleysilverskymus...@gmail.com
Please first make sure you are subscribed to this list
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,
as I see you have fallen off cc list.
BTW a delayed archive of this  other lists in on the web.

Next check the MD5 checksum of your boot media.

Next also realise some drives cant read what other drives had written,
sometimes that maybe alignement or dirt on the optics,
someties it simply cos eg some old drives cant read those half see through
RW media, sometime some old drives cant read an RW media.

Cheers,
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Technical Support Question

2012-02-15 Thread Chip Oakley
Hello,

I am upgrading to BSD from windows.

I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
remember.

I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made sure
to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.

Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD and overwrite
windows for my BSD installation?

Regards
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-15 Thread Da Rock

On 02/16/12 06:14, Chip Oakley wrote:

Hello,

I am upgrading to BSD from windows.

I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
remember.

I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made sure
to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.

Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD and overwrite
windows for my BSD installation?

Welcome to FreeBSD!

FreeBSD and Windows are completely incompatible, I'm afraid. Can you 
boot from usb? You can download a memstick img from the same place you 
got your cd iso. More cost effective too - no old releases floating 
around for years; you just reuse the same old memstick! ;)


If you try a memstick, make sure its big enough. Most of the smallest 
usb sticks you can buy are about 4G anyway, so it will work. You need 
about 1.5G. And I believe you can use SD or other memory cards as well.

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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-15 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:

If you try a memstick, make sure its big enough. Most of the smallest usb 
sticks you can buy are about 4G anyway, so it will work. You need about 1.5G. 
And I believe you can use SD or other memory cards as well.


The 9.0-RELEASE memstick is less than 654M, and I believe all are made 
to fit in 1G.  The DVD image is larger, 2.2G.

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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-15 Thread Da Rock

On 02/16/12 10:07, Warren Block wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:

If you try a memstick, make sure its big enough. Most of the smallest 
usb sticks you can buy are about 4G anyway, so it will work. You need 
about 1.5G. And I believe you can use SD or other memory cards as well.


The 9.0-RELEASE memstick is less than 654M, and I believe all are made 
to fit in 1G.  The DVD image is larger, 2.2G.

Didn't fit on 1G when I tried, but maybe that was just RC3.
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Re: Technical Support Question

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Bonomi

Chip Oakley silverskymus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I am upgrading to BSD from windows.

 I am having complications with an old password from Windows that I cannot
 remember.

 I created an ISO Boot CD on another computer and installed it and made sure
 to set the BIOS to boot from CD, to no avail.

There are at least two possibilities to explain 'to no avail' -- which utterly
fails to describe what actually happened.
  1) the CD you made -- by unspecified means -- is not actually bootable, and
 the BIOS proceeds to the 'next' available boot device (the hard-disk) and
 boots Windows -- which wants the password you hve forgotten.
  2) there is a *BIOS* password that you must supply before being able to boot
 _anything_

 Is there a way to access the executable files from the CD and overwrite
 windows for my BSD installation?

Probably.

_IF_ the CD is 'bootable'.
_IF_ the CD does not have read errors in the boot code.
_IF_ the CD _drive_ is working properly, and is properly aligned.
_IF_ the machine will boot from CD.
_IF_ the machine BIOS is set to try to boot from the CD before other devices.

You claim to have made a CD on nother machine.  Will _that_ machine boot from
the CD you made?  If not, you made the CD incorrectly.

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