Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 11:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]
> > There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
> > was to:
> >
> ># pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
> ># cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
> ># make rmconfig
> ># make config
> >[untick i180 and tick intel]
> ># portupgrade -f xorg-drivers
> >
...
> Jonathan
> 
> I followed your instructions but still doesnt work.
> 
> Now, all this is really disappointing. Would you suggest I reinstall
> FreeBSD 6.3? Perhaps I reinstall it without choosing Xorg during
> sysinstall and then install it later through package or port?

A reinstallation of 6.3 wouldn't really solve anything, as your
problem isn't with the base system; it's with XOrg. Could you repost
the results of your latest /var/log/XOrg.log with the new "intel"
video driver? You may have to submit its contents to XOrg for a better
diagnosis.

Cheers.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:51:11PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> > On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > > (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
> > > > Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
> > > > New driver is "i810"
> > >
> > > The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
> > > the "intel" driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
> > > will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
> > > one first.
> ...
> > >
> > How do I do this? what do I change? Thanks
>
> There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
> was to:
>
># pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
># cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
># make rmconfig
># make config
>[untick i180 and tick intel]
># portupgrade -f xorg-drivers
>
> After which, X on my laptop started behaving as it should.
> --
> Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jonathan

I followed your instructions but still doesnt work.

Now, all this is really disappointing. Would you suggest I reinstall
FreeBSD 6.3? Perhaps I reinstall it without choosing Xorg during
sysinstall and then install it later through package or port?

If you think this wont make a difference, then I am prepared to just
leave it as it is for now I think.

Thanks
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:51:11PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
> > > Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
> > > New driver is "i810"
> >
> > The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
> > the "intel" driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
> > will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
> > one first.
...
> >
> How do I do this? what do I change? Thanks

There should be a more elegant way to do this, but the way I did it
was to:

# pkg_delete -f xf86-video-i810-1.7.4
# cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers
# make rmconfig
# make config
[untick i180 and tick intel]
# portupgrade -f xorg-drivers

After which, X on my laptop started behaving as it should.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> [...]
> > (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
> > Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
> > New driver is "i810"
>
> The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
> the "intel" driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
> will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
> one first.
>
> Cheers.
> --
> Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --
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>as you grow older, it starts avoiding you.
>
How do I do this? what do I change? Thanks
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

[...]
> (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated
> Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf010/20
> New driver is "i810"

The i810 driver doesn't quite support laptop screens that well. Try using
the "intel" driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel) instead. This driver
will conflict with the i180 driver, so you will have to remove the old
one first.

Cheers.
-- 
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, Frank Shute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:59:09PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> > On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> > >
> 
> > >
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
> >>> (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
> >>> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
> >>> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
> >>>
> >>> Fatal server error:
> >>> no screens found
> >>> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> > >
> > > [cut x config stuff]
> > >
> > > > I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
> > > > test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
> > > > port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
> > > > what version do I have?
> > > >
> > > > What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
> > >
> > >  1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
> > >  2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
> > >  3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
> > >  4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system
> > >
> > > You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
> > > 'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
> > > wrapping.
> > >
> >
> > Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg
> >
> >
> > xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
> > xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
> > xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
> > xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
> > xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
> > xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
> > xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
> > xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
> > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
> > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
> > xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
> > xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
> > xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
> > xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
> > xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
> > xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
> > xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
>
> Looks like you've got everything, from a glance.
>
> >
> >
> > The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below
> >
> >
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >   Identifier "X.org Configured"
> >   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Files"
> >   RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
> >   ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> >   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Module"
> >   Load  "extmod"
> >   Load  "record"
> >   Load  "dbe"
> >   Load  "glx"
> >   Load  "GLcore"
> >   Load  "xtrap"
> >   Load  "dri"
> >   Load  "freetype"
> >   Load  "type1"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> >   Driver  "kbd"
> > EndSection
>
> You'll need to edit the above if you're using a non-US keyboard.
> E.g:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>Driver  "kbd"
>Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
>Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
>Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
> EndSection
>
> If you tell us which country your keyboard is for, we could provide
> more help.
>
> I think you want:
>
>Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
>
> for a laptop.
>
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >   Identifier  "Mouse0"
> >   Driver  "mouse"
> >   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
> >   Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> >   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Monitor"
> >   Identifier   "Monitor0"
> >   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> >   ModelName"Monitor Model"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > ### Available Driver options are:-
> > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> > ### [arg]: arg optional
> > #Option "ShadowFB"# []
> > #Option "DefaultRefresh"  # []
> > #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"  # []
> >   Identifier  "Card0"
> >   Driver  "vesa"
> >   VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
> >   BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrat

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:59:09PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >

> >
>>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
>>> (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
>>> (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
>>> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
>>> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
>>>
>>> Fatal server error:
>>> no screens found
>>> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> >
> > [cut x config stuff]
> >
> > > I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
> > > test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
> > > port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
> > > what version do I have?
> > >
> > > What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
> >
> >  1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
> >  2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
> >  3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
> >  4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system
> >
> > You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
> > 'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
> > wrapping.
> >
> 
> Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg
> 
> 
> xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
> xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
> xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
> xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
> xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
> xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
> xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
> xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
> xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
> xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
> xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
> xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
> xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
> xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
> xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
> xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
> xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org

Looks like you've got everything, from a glance.

> 
> 
> The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below
> 
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "X.org Configured"
>   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>   RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
>   ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>   FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load  "extmod"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "dbe"
>   Load  "glx"
>   Load  "GLcore"
>   Load  "xtrap"
>   Load  "dri"
>   Load  "freetype"
>   Load  "type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>   Driver  "kbd"
> EndSection

You'll need to edit the above if you're using a non-US keyboard.
E.g:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

If you tell us which country your keyboard is for, we could provide
more help. 

I think you want:

Option "XkbModel" "pc101"

for a laptop.

> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
>   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier   "Monitor0"
>   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>   ModelName"Monitor Model"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "ShadowFB"# []
> #Option "DefaultRefresh"  # []
> #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"  # []
>   Identifier  "Card0"
>   Driver  "vesa"
>   VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
>   BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
>   BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
> EndSection

Bad news. i810 doesn't support your graphics chip yet and you have to use
crappy old vesa. 

> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"

Add here:

DefaultColorDepth 24

>   

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread doug

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?


[cut]


(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)


[cut x config stuff]


I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?


 1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
 2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
 3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
 4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system

You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
wrapping.



Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg


xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts 
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts

xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org


The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "record"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "glx"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "dri"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "ShadowFB" # []
   #Option "DefaultRefresh"   # []
   #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"   # []
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "vesa"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:16:31PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

[...]
> Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
> to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
> problems?
> 
> I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
> if I dont get xorg to work.

What you are doing is correct. You do need to get XOrg working first,
and "startx" is the easiest way to test it. There is no point
building/downloading the big list of GNOME2 packages until you get
XOrg working.

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:



Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the "Xorg -configure" and tried
again, and still doesnt work. Please help 


startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
to use xfce4 that was started with the command "starxfce4" but i ended
up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
root prompt:

#pkg_add -r gnome2

i think that is what i used.

here is a webpage for gnome:

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/

have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
it.  really easy.  for the ports system

http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
like (as root)

#cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app

and then

#make install clean

the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
kewl thing called "portsnap" that updates the ports directories



Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
problems?


the pkg_add utility worries about alll that nonsense for you.
just try it.



I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
if I dont get xorg to work.



that's true, but xorg i think you don't necessarily have to worry
about.  the pkg_add command will be thinking for a looongg loonngg
time.  go see a movie while it is chugging away.



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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> > On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >>> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> > On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >>>
> >
> > Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
> > chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
> > ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the "Xorg -configure" and tried
> > again, and still doesnt work. Please help 
>
> startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
> to use xfce4 that was started with the command "starxfce4" but i ended
> up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
> plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
> root prompt:
>
> #pkg_add -r gnome2
>
> i think that is what i used.
>
> here is a webpage for gnome:
>
> http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/
>
> have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
> and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
> out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
> it.  really easy.  for the ports system
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
>
> you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
> like (as root)
>
> #cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app
>
> and then
>
> #make install clean
>
> the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
> kewl thing called "portsnap" that updates the ports directories
>

Do I need to get Xorg working first? before I deploy gnome2? I do plan
to install gnome 2 -certainly at some stage - would that solve my
problems?

I am a bit confused nowplease help! I thought gnome 2 wouldnt work
if I dont get xorg to work.
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:

On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:



Just to repeat. I installed FreeBSD 6.3, its a new Toshiba notebook. I
chose to install X Windows during sysinstall. The very first time I
ran startx it didnt work. Then I did the "Xorg -configure" and tried
again, and still doesnt work. Please help 


startx is lame.  most ppl apparently use either KDE or gnome. i used
to use xfce4 that was started with the command "starxfce4" but i ended
up being pursuaded out of it because i couldn't do flash and multimedia
plugins.  have you tried running the following command at the
root prompt:

#pkg_add -r gnome2

i think that is what i used.

here is a webpage for gnome:

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/

have you familiarized yourself with the freeBSD pkg_add pkg_delete
and ports systems /usr/ports ?  the -r directive means that it goes
out to the web to find things to install and at the same time installs
it.  really easy.  for the ports system

http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html

you merely figure out what port you want.. do a command something
like (as root)

#cd /usr/ports/path/to/a/kewl/app

and then

#make install clean

the ports system figures out all the dependencies.. also there is a
kewl thing called "portsnap" that updates the ports directories

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portsnap&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASE&format=html




Thanks
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> > On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> >> One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
> >> but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
> >> something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
> >> - shall I do a port upgrade?
>
> [cut]
>
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
> >>> (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
> >>> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
> >>> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
> >>>
> >>> Fatal server error:
> >>> no screens found
> >>> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
>
> [cut x config stuff]
>
> > I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
> > test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
> > port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
> > what version do I have?
> >
> > What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
>
>  1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
>  2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
>  3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
>  4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system
>
> You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
> 'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line
> wrapping.
>

Following is the result of pkg_info | grep xorg


xorg-7.3_1  X.Org complete distribution metaport
xorg-apps-7.3   X.org apps meta-port
xorg-cf-files-1.0.2_2 X.org cf files for use with imake builds
xorg-docs-1.4,1 X.org documentation files
xorg-drivers-7.3X.org drivers meta-port
xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.3 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-7.3  X.org fonts meta-port
xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.3 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.3 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.3 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.3 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-7.3 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-libraries-7.3_1 X.org libraries meta-port
xorg-nestserver-1.4,1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-protos-7.3 X.org protos meta-port
xorg-server-1.4_4,1 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-1.4,1 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org


The contents of my xorg.conf.new file are below


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "record"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "glx"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "dri"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB"  # []
#Option "DefaultRefresh"# []
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen"# []
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "vesa"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
   

Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread doug

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?


[cut]


(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)


[cut x config stuff]


I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?


 1) Post xorg.conf.new as suggested.
 2) pkg_info | grep xorg  will show you whats installed
 3) check the hardware list to see if there are know issues
 4) Google the error and freebsd + xorg + your system

You will get the most (probably) from posting xorg.conf.new. along with
'uname -a' output. Don't edit it just send it to the list avoiding line 
wrapping.



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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:08:59AM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> > > On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > > I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
> > > again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like
> > >
> > > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> > > (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
> > > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
> > > (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
> > > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
> > >
> > > Fatal server error:
> > > no screens found
> > > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> > >
> > > Please help!!!
> >
> > This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2
> > says if startx does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and
> > then test that with
> >
> >Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
> >
> > If your Xorg is < 7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the
> > defaults selected and your video card, you may need to edit your
> > screen section. Xorg 7 did not work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is
> > manual and required. My screen section: 

> >
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > #   DefaultDepth 16
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 1
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 4
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 8
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 15
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 16
> > Modes "1280x1024"
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 24
> > Modes "1280x1024"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> >
> I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
> test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
> port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
> what version do I have?
> 
> What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?

Check that you have xf86-video-i810 installed:

$ pkg_info | grep i810

If not, install it.

Try:

# Xorg -configure

again.

Then:

# X -config xorg.conf.new

If it doesn't work, post xorg.conf.new to this list.


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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-30 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> > On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >>>
>  One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
>  but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
>  something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
>  - shall I do a port upgrade?
> 
>  Thanks
> >>>
> >>> This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
> >>> has the
> >>> steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
> >> shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
> >> top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
> >> after that?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> > I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
> > again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like
> >
> > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> > (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
> > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
> > (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
> > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > no screens found
> > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> >
> > Please help!!!
>
> This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2 says if startx
> does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and then test that with
>
>Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
>
> If your Xorg is < 7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the defaults selected
> and your video card, you may need to edit your screen section. Xorg 7 did not
> work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is manual and required. My screen section:
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Card0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> #   DefaultDepth 16
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 1
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 4
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 8
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 15
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 16
> Modes "1280x1024"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 24
> Modes "1280x1024"
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
>
>
I did configure Xorg as it said in the handbook, but after that the
test didnt work, still gave me the same error. I then installed from a
port (I assume that will be the latest Xorg 7.3 is it? How can I check
what version do I have?

What is way forward now? uninstall this and install Xorg 6?
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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread doug

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

Thanks


This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has the
steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html




I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
after that?

Thanks


I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like

(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

Please help!!!


This looks like you did not configure X. As the handbook 5.4.2 says if startx 
does not work you need to run: Xorg -configure and then test that with


   Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

If your Xorg is < 7.3 you have to do this. Depending on the defaults selected 
and your video card, you may need to edit your screen section. Xorg 7 did not 
work for me. In Xorg 6 all setup is manual and required. My screen section:


Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
#   DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Kimi
On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> > > One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
> > > but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
> > > something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
> > > - shall I do a port upgrade?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
> > has the
> > steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
> >
> >
>
> I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
> shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
> top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
> after that?
>

or better still, if you can tel us the error message we can help much
better, other wise all we can do is second guess and redirect you to
the handbook which should solved most of your problems, also looking
back in the mailing list archives might give you a solution to


> Thanks

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, Siraj Shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> >
> > > One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
> > > but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
> > > something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
> > > - shall I do a port upgrade?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System 
> > has the
> > steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
> >
> >
>
> I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
> shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
> top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
> after that?
>
> Thanks
>
I have just reinstalled Xorg (using the xorg port) and tried startx
again but it doesnt work. The error message is something like

(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal server error:
no screens found
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

Please help!!!

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Re: Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> > One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
> > but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
> > something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
> > - shall I do a port upgrade?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has 
> the
> steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html
>
>

I installed FreeBSD 6.3 and asked for X during the step. The link only
shows me how to add the X package. Shall I add the package right on
top now, or shall I remove X first, and then install the port/package
after that?

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Starting X - was Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread doug

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Siraj Shaikh wrote:


One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

Thanks


This is really a new thread. The handbook Chapter 5, The X Window System has the 
steps to follow. If your video card is support, it will just work.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 29/01/2008, Alphons Fonz van Werven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
> >> No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
> >> actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?
>
> > you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.
>
> Ah, ok.
>
> Not a logical choice for a fresh install though...
>
> Alphons (still at war with vidcontrol)
>
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OK, wanted to thank you all fo your helkp, and just finally, repeat
the steps (just to clarify amongst all this discussion). This is what
I did

1) started with an empty disk, and used the Vista recovery CD to put
the Vista image onto the laptop
2) then installed freebsd (6.3) from CD and left MBR untouched
3) on restart, was only seeing FreeBSD, so used fdisk to makr the
Vista partition active
4) finally booted up with Vista and then used easyBCD to add the
FreeBSD partition entry to the boot record (its call it NeoLinux for
some reason - could I change it to call it FreeBSD? Not that it
matters so much)
5) finally rebooted to have a choice between FreeBSD and Vista - tried
both and they both work fine!

Thank you again all!

One question: I have just installed FreeBSD 6.3, and tried "startx"
but it isnt coming up, giving some sort of error. Am I missing
something here? I did choose for "Windows X" during the FreeBSD setup
- shall I do a port upgrade?

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons "Fonz" van Werven

Wojciech Puchar wrote:


No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?



you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.


Ah, ok.

Not a logical choice for a fresh install though...

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?

If I'm not mistaken, you don't get the "emergency holographic shell"
until you commit, at which point disk partitioning has already been
done.


you have to choose rescue disk from menu and CD/DVD.


actually - i don't use sysinstall at all. it's easier to boot livecd, and 
bsdlabel+newfs+mount+decompress files+bsdlabel -B+edit fstab manually


at least for me
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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons "Fonz" van Werven

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR
overwrite Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.



Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me,



Using straight fdisk from the command line should avoid this.


No offense, but when installing from scratch using sysinstall, do you
actually have a command line available in that phase of the install?

If I'm not mistaken, you don't get the "emergency holographic shell"
until you commit, at which point disk partitioning has already been
done.

Alphons

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote:
> Oleksandr Rudyk wrote:
>
>> During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR
>> overwrite Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.
>
> Have you reported this yet? It might not be too late to fix it in
> 7.0-RELEASE.
>
> Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me, but because I had tried
> the other trick I mentioned (the one described in the link),
> manually installing the FreeBSD boot manager fixed everything and
> gave me dual-boot.
>
> Alphons
>
Using straight fdisk from the command line should avoid this.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Alphons "Fonz" van Werven

Oleksandr Rudyk wrote:


During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR overwrite
Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.


Have you reported this yet? It might not be too late to fix it in
7.0-RELEASE.

Oh, btw: 6.3-RELEASE did the same for me, but because I had tried the
other trick I mentioned (the one described in the link), manually
installing the FreeBSD boot manager fixed everything and gave me
dual-boot.

Alphons

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-29 Thread Gerard
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:01 -0500
"Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

> 1. With fdisk write down the exact parameters of your FreeBSD and
> vista parition s(start/end/size)
> 2. Nuke all your partitions (vista insists on it)
> 3. Install vista (set the size equal to your vista partion [note it
> *MUST* be the first partition on the first boot device])
> 4. Download and install ezbcd on vista
> 5. Use the rescue CD to create the freebsd partition again
> 6. Reboot in vista and use ezbcd to create the correct boot records.

#3 is not technically correct in regards to Vista; however, it cannot
hurt to follow that advice anyway. There are several papers written on
it. Google for them if you need further assistance.

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Oleksandr Rudyk
I have installed FBSD 7.0 RC1 several weeks ago on my Dell XPS laptop with
Vista.

During BSD install I select don't touch MBR, but anyway FBSD MBR overwrite
Vista MBR and I lost my Vista.
Then I booted with Vista rescue CD and restore Vista MBR sector. So I got
Vista again but no FBSD.
The last step was to install EasyBSD and add record for my FBSD partition.
After reboot I got Vista Loader menu with Windows and FreeBSD loader
options.

Hope this helps

2008/1/28, Alphons Fonz van Werven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Siraj Shaikh wrote:
>
> > How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
> > this already please?
>
> I had the exact same problem just a few days ago and two solutions were
> quickly posted here:
>
> 1: http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/FreeBSD_%26_Windows_Vista
>
> 2: When installing FreeBSD and you are asked what boot manager to install
> select to not install anything. In this way your Vista boot will not
> be
> affected. If after this you find that at startup you are not given ANY
> choice but FreeBSD starts automatically, this is simply because it's
> partition is marked active. Boot with a CD like Norton Partition Magic
> or GParted and mark the Vista partition active. Boot Vista, then
> download and install the EasyBCD from http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
> It is then trivial to add a stanza to Vista bootloader (!) to boot
> FreeBSD.
>
> Hth,
>
> Alphons
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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Alphons "Fonz" van Werven

Siraj Shaikh wrote:


How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
this already please?


I had the exact same problem just a few days ago and two solutions were
quickly posted here:

1: http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/FreeBSD_%26_Windows_Vista

2: When installing FreeBSD and you are asked what boot manager to install
   select to not install anything. In this way your Vista boot will not be
   affected. If after this you find that at startup you are not given ANY
   choice but FreeBSD starts automatically, this is simply because it's
   partition is marked active. Boot with a CD like Norton Partition Magic
   or GParted and mark the Vista partition active. Boot Vista, then
   download and install the EasyBCD from http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
   It is then trivial to add a stanza to Vista bootloader (!) to boot
   FreeBSD.

Hth,

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Re: Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Siraj Shaikh wrote:
> I have got a machine which came with Vista pre-installed. Now I
> would like to install FreeBSD on it, and so that I can dual boot
> between the two.
>
> The machine did come with a rescue CD which has an image of Vista
> on it. I tried installing FreeBSD (Vista was already installed),
> but then got a problem with the boot loader I think. I could boot
> to FreeBSD fine, but couldnt to Vista. So I have reimaged the
> machine with Vista now.
>
> How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has
> done this already please?

Here is the procedure I used:

1. With fdisk write down the exact parameters of your FreeBSD and
vista parition s(start/end/size)
2. Nuke all your partitions (vista insists on it)
3. Install vista (set the size equal to your vista partion [note it
*MUST* be the first partition on the first boot device])
4. Download and install ezbcd on vista
5. Use the rescue CD to create the freebsd partition again
6. Reboot in vista and use ezbcd to create the correct boot records.

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Vista / FreeBSD dual boot

2008-01-28 Thread Siraj Shaikh
I have got a machine which came with Vista pre-installed. Now I would
like to install FreeBSD on it, and so that I can dual boot between the
two.

The machine did come with a rescue CD which has an image of Vista on
it. I tried installing FreeBSD (Vista was already installed), but then
got a problem with the boot loader I think. I could boot to FreeBSD
fine, but couldnt to Vista. So I have reimaged the machine with Vista
now.

How do I go about installing FreeBSD (6.3) on it now? Anyone has done
this already please?

Thanks
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