Re: What have I done?
On Monday 24 May 2010 22:02:44 Chip Camden wrote: > On May 24 2010 12:21, William Vining wrote: > > I experienced a similar situation under different circumstances. It > > turned out that the sysctl > > variable hw.snd.default_unit was refering to the wrong sound card. Not > > sure if thats the > > problem, but it might be worth checking if you have multiple sound cards. > > > > -- WFV > > wfvin...@gmail.com > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Chip Camden > > > > wrote: > > > This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't > > > been able to figure it out. > > > > > > I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought > > > I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was > > > 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The > > > ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and > > > because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. > > > > > > I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart > > > mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've > > > tried unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer > > > files, still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then > > > rebooted. Any other suggestions? > > > -- > > OK, there's more going on here than I realized. My sound seems to be > disabled if I load the driver in /boot/loader.conf, but works OK if I use > kldload after booting instead. Bizarre. I've repeated the experiment > several times with the same results, using either snd_driver or snd_hda. > > cat /dev/sndstat (when working): > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: (play/rec) default > pcm1: (rec) > pcm2: (play) The order of the the devices may change depending on wether you kldload the driver or use loader.conf. As suggested by William Vining, use the sysctl hw.snd.default_unit to select the correct default pcm device. -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What have I done?
On May 24 2010 12:21, William Vining wrote: > I experienced a similar situation under different circumstances. It > turned out that the sysctl > variable hw.snd.default_unit was refering to the wrong sound card. Not > sure if thats the > problem, but it might be worth checking if you have multiple sound cards. > > -- WFV > wfvin...@gmail.com > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > > > This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't > > been able to figure it out. > > > > I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought > > I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was > > 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The > > ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and > > because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. > > > > I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart > > mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've tried > > unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer files, > > still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then rebooted. Any > > other suggestions? > > -- OK, there's more going on here than I realized. My sound seems to be disabled if I load the driver in /boot/loader.conf, but works OK if I use kldload after booting instead. Bizarre. I've repeated the experiment several times with the same results, using either snd_driver or snd_hda. cat /dev/sndstat (when working): FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What have I done?
I experienced a similar situation under different circumstances. It turned out that the sysctl variable hw.snd.default_unit was refering to the wrong sound card. Not sure if thats the problem, but it might be worth checking if you have multiple sound cards. -- WFV wfvin...@gmail.com On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > > This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't > been able to figure it out. > > I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought > I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was > 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The > ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and > because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. > > I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart > mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've tried > unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer files, > still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then rebooted. Any > other suggestions? > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
What have I done?
This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't been able to figure it out. I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've tried unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer files, still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then rebooted. Any other suggestions? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: oops, what have i done!
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Robert Huff wrote: Rakhesh Sasidharan writes: Kind of related to this topic. Is there any way I can find installed packages that are *not* required by any other packages? /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves ? Man, I love the ports system!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
Rakhesh Sasidharan writes: > Kind of related to this topic. Is there any way I can find installed > packages that are *not* required by any other packages? /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves ? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Adam J Richardson wrote: Pollywog wrote: On Saturday 28 July 2007 20:23:16 Erik Trulsson wrote: Short answer: It is perfectly normal. Don't worry. Longer answer: The reason you have all of them installed is that some ports need one of them, and others need another one etc. It is perfectly safe to have all of them installed at the same time. You can delete any or all of them if you wish, but don't be surprised if they get pulled in again by one port or another. Kind of related to this topic. Is there any way I can find installed packages that are *not* required by any other packages? Many a times while upgrading ports I've stumbled upon stuff that is no longer required by other packages but is still there ... (Possibly they were pulled in when I installed some package I wanted. Later I removed that, but forgot to remove this requirement package). Regards, Rakhesh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
Pollywog wrote: On Saturday 28 July 2007 20:23:16 Erik Trulsson wrote: Short answer: It is perfectly normal. Don't worry. Longer answer: The reason you have all of them installed is that some ports need one of them, and others need another one etc. It is perfectly safe to have all of them installed at the same time. You can delete any or all of them if you wish, but don't be surprised if they get pulled in again by one port or another. In Linux, I occasionally have compiling problems when I have two versions of automake installed. Removing the ones that are not needed fixes the problem. I usually delete the older one[s] if I see duplicates in my portversion list, and let the resultant "stale links" [if any] resolve themselves to point at the latest version. That shouldn't be dangerous, right? I find portsdb generally does the Right Thing. I don't think it's caused me any problems [yet]. Adam J Richardson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 15:13 -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: > today, when i was auditing what needs to be updated, i came upon this: > > autoconf-2.13.000227_5 < needs updating (port has > 2.13.000227_6) > autoconf-2.53_3 < needs updating (port has 2.53_4) > autoconf-2.59_2 < needs updating (port has 2.59_3) > automake-1.4.6_3< needs updating (port has 1.4.6_4) > automake-1.5_3,1< needs updating (port has 1.5_4,1) > automake-1.9.6_1< needs updating (port has 1.9.6_2) > > how did i manage to get so many of these 3 things installed? can i assume > its > safe to remove all but the highest version? > > thanks, They're build depends for some of the various ports you have installed since many ports require different auto* versions to build. You can just leave them installed since more than likely they will eventually come back. Upgrading them takes trivial amounts of time. tom -- | tmclaugh at sdf.lonestar.org tmclaugh at FreeBSD.org | | FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSD.org | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
On Saturday 28 July 2007 20:23:16 Erik Trulsson wrote: > Short answer: It is perfectly normal. Don't worry. > > > Longer answer: > > The reason you have all of them installed is that some ports need one of > them, and others need another one etc. > It is perfectly safe to have all of them installed at the same time. > > You can delete any or all of them if you wish, but don't be surprised if > they get pulled in again by one port or another. In Linux, I occasionally have compiling problems when I have two versions of automake installed. Removing the ones that are not needed fixes the problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 03:13:51PM -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: > >> today, when i was auditing what needs to be updated, i came upon this: >> >> autoconf-2.13.000227_5 < needs updating (port has >> 2.13.000227_6) >> autoconf-2.53_3 < needs updating (port has 2.53_4) >> autoconf-2.59_2 < needs updating (port has 2.59_3) >> automake-1.4.6_3< needs updating (port has 1.4.6_4) >> automake-1.5_3,1< needs updating (port has 1.5_4,1) >> automake-1.9.6_1< needs updating (port has 1.9.6_2) >> >> how did i manage to get so many of these 3 things installed? can i assume >> its >> safe to remove all but the highest version? >> > > Short answer: It is perfectly normal. Don't worry. > > > Longer answer: > > The reason you have all of them installed is that some ports need one of > them, and others need another one etc. > It is perfectly safe to have all of them installed at the same time. > > You can delete any or all of them if you wish, but don't be surprised if > they get pulled in again by one port or another. > Even more, if you updated you ports tree today, read /usr/ports/UPDATING there is an entry for a specific upgrade procedure concerning these. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: oops, what have i done!
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 03:13:51PM -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: > today, when i was auditing what needs to be updated, i came upon this: > > autoconf-2.13.000227_5 < needs updating (port has > 2.13.000227_6) > autoconf-2.53_3 < needs updating (port has 2.53_4) > autoconf-2.59_2 < needs updating (port has 2.59_3) > automake-1.4.6_3< needs updating (port has 1.4.6_4) > automake-1.5_3,1< needs updating (port has 1.5_4,1) > automake-1.9.6_1< needs updating (port has 1.9.6_2) > > how did i manage to get so many of these 3 things installed? can i assume > its > safe to remove all but the highest version? Short answer: It is perfectly normal. Don't worry. Longer answer: The reason you have all of them installed is that some ports need one of them, and others need another one etc. It is perfectly safe to have all of them installed at the same time. You can delete any or all of them if you wish, but don't be surprised if they get pulled in again by one port or another. -- Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
oops, what have i done!
today, when i was auditing what needs to be updated, i came upon this: autoconf-2.13.000227_5 < needs updating (port has 2.13.000227_6) autoconf-2.53_3 < needs updating (port has 2.53_4) autoconf-2.59_2 < needs updating (port has 2.59_3) automake-1.4.6_3< needs updating (port has 1.4.6_4) automake-1.5_3,1< needs updating (port has 1.5_4,1) automake-1.9.6_1< needs updating (port has 1.9.6_2) how did i manage to get so many of these 3 things installed? can i assume its safe to remove all but the highest version? thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
mailing list said: > > Hmmm, I'm confused > >> If you want to have your aliases attached to the tl0 >> interface, you need to use addresses in that range. So, >> something like: >> >> ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.82.15.210 netmask 0x" > > That's what I have, and I'm getting those funny arplookup error > messages. > Nope, in your original message, you had the other subnet attached to the tl0 interface. Also, you had a 255.255.255.0 subnet attached to the de0 interface if I recall correctly. > I have two DSL lines, one provides the 82.15.209+ and the other the > 167.176.x, but both have the same 255.255.255.240 subnet. I'm thinking > that this may have something to do with the messages? > Send another snippet of your rc.conf file as it relates to these interfaces. I seem to recall that your aliases and interface on the de0 side were in different subnets to start. Plus, all of your aliases were using IP's from the de0 subnet (with the wrong mask, mind you) but were attached to the tl0 interface. Mike -- Michael K. Smith Senior Network and Systems Engineer - NoaNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206.219.7116 NOC: 866.662.6380 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
Hmmm, I'm confused > If you want to have your aliases attached to the tl0 > interface, you need to use addresses in that range. So, > something like: > > ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.82.15.210 netmask 0x" That's what I have, and I'm getting those funny arplookup error messages. > The subnet mask for xxx.82.15.219 would mean you could use > addresses that are "masked" when the subnet mask is applied. > I would recommend reading up on masking in your copious free > time. I'll definitely have a look around (think I have the CCNA books at home). I have two DSL lines, one provides the 82.15.209+ and the other the 167.176.x, but both have the same 255.255.255.240 subnet. I'm thinking that this may have something to do with the messages? phillip. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
mailing list\ said: > > Hi Michael, > > My network topology skills are limited... does this mean the following: > > - my default gateway is on a 255.255.255.240 subnet > - so is my devices real address > - there is another device listed there (de0), no problems (internal) > > So, if I change the aliased devices to 0xff0 (255.255.255.240), they > will be a-ok and not produce those message? I believe I had it set like > that and the devices wouldn't initiate? > > Many thanks in advance, > Hey Phillip: You have three things that need to line up in order for this to work: 1) The IP Address 2) The subnet mask 3) The alias and its associated interface In your example: >> > ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.168.0.219 netmask 255.255.255.0" >> > ifconfig_tl0="inet XXX.82.15.219 netmask 255.255.255.240" >> >> > ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x" >> ifconfig_tl0_alias4="inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x" >> ifconfig_tl0_alias5="inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x" >> ifconfig_tl0_alias6="inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x" The subnet mask for xxx.82.15.219 would mean you could use addresses that are "masked" when the subnet mask is applied. I would recommend reading up on masking in your copious free time. Suffice it to say that, in this case, the following is true: xxx.82.15.208 - xxx.82.15.223 is the address range, with .208 and .223 reserved. If you want to have your aliases attached to the tl0 interface, you need to use addresses in that range. So, something like: ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.82.15.210 netmask 0x" Also, I would recommend using the .209 or .222 address (first and last useable in the subnet) as your tl0 (default gateway) interface. It's standard operating procedure and will help you in the troubleshooting process to have things fairly standardized. If you set your interface to .209, then you could set interface aliases from .210 to .222 inclusive. Mike -- Michael K. Smith Senior Network and Systems Engineer - NoaNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206.219.7116 NOC: 866.662.6380 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
Hi Michael, My network topology skills are limited... does this mean the following: - my default gateway is on a 255.255.255.240 subnet - so is my devices real address - there is another device listed there (de0), no problems (internal) So, if I change the aliased devices to 0xff0 (255.255.255.240), they will be a-ok and not produce those message? I believe I had it set like that and the devices wouldn't initiate? Many thanks in advance, phillip. > -Original Message- > From: Michael K. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: February 6, 2003 3:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: arplookup messages? now what have I done? > > > > mailing list said: > > > > I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm > getting these > > system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6) > > > > > > > ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.168.0.219 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_tl0="inet XXX.82.15.219 netmask 255.255.255.240" > > > ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x" > > ifconfig_tl0_alias4="inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x" > > ifconfig_tl0_alias5="inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x" > > ifconfig_tl0_alias6="inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x" > > > Hey: > > Your interface is in xxx.168.0.0/24 and your aliases are in > xxx.167.0.0/24. Those are two different subnets. You need > to configure your aliases in xxx.168.0.0 or reconfigure the > interface into xxx.167.0.0. Or, you could extend your subnet > mask to a /22 (255.255.252.0) (you can't use a /23 because it > won't inlude 167 and 168). > > Mike > > > -- > Michael K. Smith > Senior Network and Systems Engineer - NoaNet > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 206.219.7116 NOC: 866.662.6380 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
mailing list said: > > I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm getting these > system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6) > > > ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.168.0.219 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_tl0="inet XXX.82.15.219 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x" > ifconfig_tl0_alias4="inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x" > ifconfig_tl0_alias5="inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x" > ifconfig_tl0_alias6="inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x" > Hey: Your interface is in xxx.168.0.0/24 and your aliases are in xxx.167.0.0/24. Those are two different subnets. You need to configure your aliases in xxx.168.0.0 or reconfigure the interface into xxx.167.0.0. Or, you could extend your subnet mask to a /22 (255.255.252.0) (you can't use a /23 because it won't inlude 167 and 168). Mike -- Michael K. Smith Senior Network and Systems Engineer - NoaNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206.219.7116 NOC: 866.662.6380 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
arplookup messages? now what have I done?
I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm getting these system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6) Feb 3 02:24:23 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network Feb 3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed: 1 Feb 3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed: 1 And... these ones too > arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > Feb 5 03:03:57 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > Feb 5 03:04:57 freedom last message repeated 3 times > arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network > Feb 5 06:16:56 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XXfailed: host is not on local And here's the rc.conf file ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.168.0.219 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_tl0="inet XXX.82.15.219 netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_tl0_alias0="inet XXX.82.15.220 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias1="inet XXX.82.15.221 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias2="inet XXX.82.15.222 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias3="inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias4="inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias5="inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x" ifconfig_tl0_alias6="inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x" -- Phillip To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:14:49 +1300, "Jonathan Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 08:50:36PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:01:20 +1300, "Jonathan Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > said: > > [...] > > > If you intend on just upgrading your system sources, you don't need > > > ports-all and doc-all. src-all is approx 298M and the ports-all is > > > about 162M. Dunno about doc-all. Removing the ports-all and doc-all > > > will probably just squeeze your update in. I'm unsure whether you'll > > > have enough space to recompile your system though... > > > > > Even the 162M presents a problem and I was wondering if there some way I > > could suck the sources onto a different file system which has more space > > than /usr and get CVSUP to compile them from there ? > > My suggestion would be for you symlink /usr/src and /usr/obj to the > bigger filesystem and then run your cvsup. > Thanks for the tip - I've done that and the file are streaming in right now - keeping my fingers crossed ! regards richard The Cuba Group PO Box 1864 Wellington New Zealand PH +64 4 496 5205 MO +64 21 296 6839 FX +64 4 496 5209 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 08:50:36PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:01:20 +1300, "Jonathan Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: [...] > > If you intend on just upgrading your system sources, you don't need > > ports-all and doc-all. src-all is approx 298M and the ports-all is > > about 162M. Dunno about doc-all. Removing the ports-all and doc-all > > will probably just squeeze your update in. I'm unsure whether you'll > > have enough space to recompile your system though... > > > Even the 162M presents a problem and I was wondering if there some way I > could suck the sources onto a different file system which has more space > than /usr and get CVSUP to compile them from there ? My suggestion would be for you symlink /usr/src and /usr/obj to the bigger filesystem and then run your cvsup. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen | To do is to be -- Nietzsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To be is to do -- Sartre | Scooby do be do -- Scooby To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:30:00 +0100, "Cliff Sarginson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:38:26PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote: > > Hi - For the first time ever I have tried to upgrade a FreeBSD by using > > CVS. In fact I used CVSUPIT. I'm on 4.4-RELEASE and I just wanted to move > > up to 4.5,6 or 7. > > > > Well I answered a few questions, pressed the button and the process > > commenced 'checking out' hundreds of files. I thought this was a bit > > suprising given I thought the whole point of CVS was to only pull those > > files which had changed - it just seemed to be pulling everying ! Anyway > > I had to CTRL-C it after a while as the file system had gone to 105%. > > > The tag you have used will download the latest Stable release, i.e. > everything up to a few hours ago post 4.7 release .. a squillion files. > > To get upto 4.5 release I think you will need a tag of > > RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE > Thanks for that - just what I need ... [SNIP] > > The src for 4.7 takes about 300 MB. > Then you need space for the object files .. say >300 > It seems that I never had any source on this system so I'm going to have to find that sort of space even to go to 4.5 I suppose .. > > I have never upgraded this way, so the chance of success of using the > above to jump from 4.4 to 4.7 in one bound is not something I could > comment on. > No I didn't really want to do that I thought I was going to be offered finer grain options but the whole process started with just the 4.5_RELENG tag in place ! thanks again for your help regards richard shea. > Good luck :) > > -- > Regards >Cliff Sarginson >The Netherlands > > [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > The Cuba Group PO Box 1864 Wellington New Zealand PH +64 4 496 5205 MO +64 21 296 6839 FX +64 4 496 5209 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:01:20 +1300, "Jonathan Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:38:26PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote:
>
Hi - Thanks for your reply ...
> [...]
> > Well I answered a few questions, pressed the button and the process
> > commenced 'checking out' hundreds of files. I thought this was a bit
> > suprising given I thought the whole point of CVS was to only pull those
> > files which had changed - it just seemed to be pulling everying ! Anyway
> > I had to CTRL-C it after a while as the file system had gone to 105%.
>
> Well, if you're moving from 4.4 to 4.7, there will be *quite* a lot of
> files which will have changed.
>
I didn't really want to go all the way to 4.7 in one go I think if i
change my cvsupfile so that it reads
*default tag=RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE
that will be what I want ...
[SNIP]
> cvsup installs directly into /usr/{src|ports|doc}. Your sources are
> probably in an indeterminate state. However, if you rerun cvsup, it will
> fix itself up.
>
good
[SNIP]
> If you intend on just upgrading your system sources, you don't need
> ports-all and doc-all. src-all is approx 298M and the ports-all is
> about 162M. Dunno about doc-all. Removing the ports-all and doc-all
> will probably just squeeze your update in. I'm unsure whether you'll
> have enough space to recompile your system though...
>
Even the 162M presents a problem and I was wondering if there some way I
could suck the sources onto a different file system which has more space
than /usr and get CVSUP to compile them from there ?
regards
richard shea.
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Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 06:30:00AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE > > After that change this to "RELENG_4_5" which should start to get you the > security updates when you again run cvsupit. > > -And -ditto- to go up the release chain... > > p.s. You can probably actually update directly to a security release patch level if you find out the appropriate patch tag for that release. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:38:26PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote: > Hi - For the first time ever I have tried to upgrade a FreeBSD by using > CVS. In fact I used CVSUPIT. I'm on 4.4-RELEASE and I just wanted to move > up to 4.5,6 or 7. > > Well I answered a few questions, pressed the button and the process > commenced 'checking out' hundreds of files. I thought this was a bit > suprising given I thought the whole point of CVS was to only pull those > files which had changed - it just seemed to be pulling everying ! Anyway > I had to CTRL-C it after a while as the file system had gone to 105%. > The tag you have used will download the latest Stable release, i.e. everything up to a few hours ago post 4.7 release .. a squillion files. To get upto 4.5 release I think you will need a tag of RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE After that change this to "RELENG_4_5" which should start to get you the security updates when you again run cvsupit. -And -ditto- to go up the release chain... The src for 4.7 takes about 300 MB. Then you need space for the object files .. say >300 I am not sure about the ports collection, a couple of hundred maybe. Docs ? It's all online, so you could leave them out if you are really tight on space. I have never upgraded this way, so the chance of success of using the above to jump from 4.4 to 4.7 in one bound is not something I could comment on. Good luck :) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:38:26PM +1300, Richard Shea wrote:
[...]
> Well I answered a few questions, pressed the button and the process
> commenced 'checking out' hundreds of files. I thought this was a bit
> suprising given I thought the whole point of CVS was to only pull those
> files which had changed - it just seemed to be pulling everying ! Anyway
> I had to CTRL-C it after a while as the file system had gone to 105%.
Well, if you're moving from 4.4 to 4.7, there will be *quite* a lot of
files which will have changed.
> My question is (CVSUP file below) can anyone tell me what it has done and
> what I was doing wrong ? Is there some sort of standard rule of thumb for
> how much extra file space will be required ? I was expecting to pull a
> couple of hundred sources and that would be that ...
>
> Do I now have half 4.x (where x > 4) sources and half 4.4 or was CVSUPIT
> copying files into a work directory ?
cvsup installs directly into /usr/{src|ports|doc}. Your sources are
probably in an indeterminate state. However, if you rerun cvsup, it will
fix itself up.
> The other thing is that I really only wanted to upgrade from 4.4 to 4.5
> initially but RELENG_4 was the nearest I got to being asked what release
> I was after - was there something I missed there ?
If you're using RELENG_4, you're moving up to -stable, which is effectively
4.7+
> ps : The CVSUP file which CVSUPIT created looks like this ...
>
> *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs
> *default tag=RELENG_4
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
>
> src-all
> *default tag=.
> ports-all
> doc-all
If you intend on just upgrading your system sources, you don't need
ports-all and doc-all. src-all is approx 298M and the ports-all is
about 162M. Dunno about doc-all. Removing the ports-all and doc-all
will probably just squeeze your update in. I'm unsure whether you'll
have enough space to recompile your system though...
Cheers.
--
Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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cvsupit - file system 105% - what have I done ?
Hi - For the first time ever I have tried to upgrade a FreeBSD by using CVS. In fact I used CVSUPIT. I'm on 4.4-RELEASE and I just wanted to move up to 4.5,6 or 7. Well I answered a few questions, pressed the button and the process commenced 'checking out' hundreds of files. I thought this was a bit suprising given I thought the whole point of CVS was to only pull those files which had changed - it just seemed to be pulling everying ! Anyway I had to CTRL-C it after a while as the file system had gone to 105%. My question is (CVSUP file below) can anyone tell me what it has done and what I was doing wrong ? Is there some sort of standard rule of thumb for how much extra file space will be required ? I was expecting to pull a couple of hundred sources and that would be that ... Do I now have half 4.x (where x > 4) sources and half 4.4 or was CVSUPIT copying files into a work directory ? The other thing is that I really only wanted to upgrade from 4.4 to 4.5 initially but RELENG_4 was the nearest I got to being asked what release I was after - was there something I missed there ? Any info would be welcome. regards richard shea. ps : The CVSUP file which CVSUPIT created looks like this ... *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all *default tag=. ports-all doc-all The Cuba Group PO Box 1864 Wellington New Zealand PH +64 4 496 5205 MO +64 21 296 6839 FX +64 4 496 5209 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
