Re: What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?

2005-02-19 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 04:57:33PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 
 I was wondering about the status of gvinum in 5.3.
 
 I seem to remember that there were a lot of problems with gvinum in 5.3,
 but searching around, I can't seem to find anything that says for sure
 one way or the other.
 
 I'm just trying to seperate the FUD from the reality.  Is there anywhere
 that has the status?  Anyone using gvinum that can say how reliable it
 is or isn't?
 
 I understand that there are GEOM classes available that have some of
 the functionality of vinum that I could use instead, but there are
 two reasons that these aren't an option for me.
 1) I'm wanting to migrate 4.X machines with existing vinum volumes to
5, and I'd rather not dump/restore.

FreeBSD 5.x also has the original vinum implementation plus gvinum
so it should be possible to use that instead of needing to dump/restore.
Though I think that there are a couple of limitations like no swap on
the original vinum do to the addition of GEOM.

 2) There is at least one feature that vinum has that I don't see in
any GEOM class, that I'm using.  That is the ability to add subdisks
and use growfs to enlarge filesystems without having to dump/restore.

I think that either geom_ccd or geom_concat will allow you to concat
more drives in and then use growfs to expand the fs.

 
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What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?

2005-02-17 Thread Bill Moran

I was wondering about the status of gvinum in 5.3.

I seem to remember that there were a lot of problems with gvinum in 5.3,
but searching around, I can't seem to find anything that says for sure
one way or the other.

I'm just trying to seperate the FUD from the reality.  Is there anywhere
that has the status?  Anyone using gvinum that can say how reliable it
is or isn't?

I understand that there are GEOM classes available that have some of
the functionality of vinum that I could use instead, but there are
two reasons that these aren't an option for me.
1) I'm wanting to migrate 4.X machines with existing vinum volumes to
   5, and I'd rather not dump/restore.
2) There is at least one feature that vinum has that I don't see in
   any GEOM class, that I'm using.  That is the ability to add subdisks
   and use growfs to enlarge filesystems without having to dump/restore.

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Re: What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?

2005-02-17 Thread David Kelly
On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
I was wondering about the status of gvinum in 5.3.
I seem to remember that there were a lot of problems with gvinum in 
5.3,
but searching around, I can't seem to find anything that says for sure
one way or the other.
IIRC the problem is with classic vinum in 5.3, not gvinum. However 
gvinum is not claimed to be complete or finished.

I created a vinum striped array of 2 drives in 5.2.1 which caused a 
fair bit of trouble (rarely remembered its configure on reboot). But 
when I switched to gvinum (forgot exactly when) the machine has been 
trouble free.

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Re: What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?

2005-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:44:43 -0600
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Subject: Re: What is the status of gvinum in FreeBSD 5.3?



On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Bill Moran wrote:

 I was wondering about the status of gvinum in 5.3.

 I seem to remember that there were a lot of problems with gvinum in 
 5.3,
 but searching around, I can't seem to find anything that says for sure
 one way or the other.

IIRC the problem is with classic vinum in 5.3, not gvinum. However 
gvinum is not claimed to be complete or finished.

I created a vinum striped array of 2 drives in 5.2.1 which caused a 
fair bit of trouble (rarely remembered its configure on reboot). But 
when I switched to gvinum (forgot exactly when) the machine has been 
trouble free.


Forgive my client, i'm reduced to mail2web.com for mail while i'm away from
my laptop.

I run a FBSD 5.2.1 box using VINUM with a nearly 1 terabyte RAID5 array
(Vinum has problems with 1+ TB filesystems)

The RAID5 array is super-stable, surviving system reboots and power
failures flawlessly.  In the 2 months it's been online and heavily used it
has never missed a beat. I'm not sure about the capabilities/availability
of gvinum or any software raid in 5.3, but i can attest to the speed and
robustness of vinum in 5.2.1 for sure.



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