Re: Which Apache version to use?

2004-11-15 Thread Daniel Bye
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 04:39:37PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 My purpose: Learn FreeBSD, learn Apache, build simple web server.
 Hardware:   Dedicated i386 machine, three big HDs (120GB, 120GB, 200GB)
 OS: FreeBSD 5.3. No X windows installed (maybe later?)

If this is to be a dedicated server machine, you don't really need X11
installed.  My opinion, others will surely differ.

 Apps:   Also intend to use postfix, majordomo, samba
 LAN:Serve LAN with Windows machines, all LAN IPs are fixed. 
 Internet:   Fixed IPs available to be used later.
 Web pages:  I have many web pages (no java) that I would like to 
 copy from their present server to a local server. 
 
 My new 5.3 installation includes these ports:
 apache-contrib
 apache-forrest
 apache-jserv
 apache13
 apache13+ipv6
 apache13-modperl
 apache13-modssl
 apache13-modssl+ipv6
 apache13-ssl
 apache2
 
 As I'm learning from scratch, am I correct in assuming that I would 
 be better off to start with apache2, or should I use one of the 
 flavors of apache13 (1.3) and perhaps upgrade later?

There are fairly large differences between the two, but if you can learn
how to use and look after one, then you can learn the other one without
too much hassle, too.

 If I use 1.3, why would I use anything other than the apache13 port?

Take a look in each port's pkg-descr file for a little more information.
For example, apache13-modperl embeds a perl interpreter in Apache to cut
out the startup overheads of running perl CGI scripts.  Apache13-ssl
includes support for encrypted session (https).

 Links to how to do it web pages would be appreciated.

There's plenty out there - just ask Google for help.

HTH

Dan

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Re: Which Apache version to use?

2004-11-15 Thread Jay O'Brien
Tabor Kelly wrote:
 
 The apache13 port is just apache. The apache-x ports also include x. For 
 example, I run apache-modssl, because I needed ssl support. mod_ssl 
 isn't really a module since it (also) requires patching the base apache 
 code.
 
 As for apache2, I think it is still marked as unstable (though some 
 people successfully use it in production environments). The main 
 advantage of apache2 over apache1.3 has to do with multi-threading vs. 
 having multiple processes (apache 1.3 is not threaded). This isn't 
 actually an advantage in FreeBSD because their is not much process 
 overhead, this is mainly intended for the windows users.
 
 Also, some apache13 modules have not been ported to apache2 yet, notably 
 mod_perl.
 
 In short, IMHO, install apache13 unless you need SSL support, then 
 install apache13-modssl.
 

Daniel Bye wrote:
 
 If this is to be a dedicated server machine, you don't really need X11
 installed.  My opinion, others will surely differ.
 
As I'm learning from scratch, am I correct in assuming that I would 
be better off to start with apache2, or should I use one of the 
flavors of apache13 (1.3) and perhaps upgrade later?
 
 There are fairly large differences between the two, but if you can learn
 how to use and look after one, then you can learn the other one without
 too much hassle, too.
 
If I use 1.3, why would I use anything other than the apache13 port?
 
 Take a look in each port's pkg-descr file for a little more information.
 For example, apache13-modperl embeds a perl interpreter in Apache to cut
 out the startup overheads of running perl CGI scripts.  Apache13-ssl
 includes support for encrypted session (https).



Thanks, folks! I'll use apache13 and see what happens. 

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, California, USA

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Which Apache version to use?

2004-11-14 Thread Jay O'Brien
My purpose: Learn FreeBSD, learn Apache, build simple web server.
Hardware:   Dedicated i386 machine, three big HDs (120GB, 120GB, 200GB)
OS: FreeBSD 5.3. No X windows installed (maybe later?)
Apps:   Also intend to use postfix, majordomo, samba
LAN:Serve LAN with Windows machines, all LAN IPs are fixed. 
Internet:   Fixed IPs available to be used later.
Web pages:  I have many web pages (no java) that I would like to 
copy from their present server to a local server. 

My new 5.3 installation includes these ports:
apache-contrib
apache-forrest
apache-jserv
apache13
apache13+ipv6
apache13-modperl
apache13-modssl
apache13-modssl+ipv6
apache13-ssl
apache2

As I'm learning from scratch, am I correct in assuming that I would 
be better off to start with apache2, or should I use one of the 
flavors of apache13 (1.3) and perhaps upgrade later?

If I use 1.3, why would I use anything other than the apache13 port?

Links to how to do it web pages would be appreciated.

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, California, USA

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