Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[José Silveira]

Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

José Silveira
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ryan Coleman]

Not this shit again...


On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:39 PM, José Silveira wrote:

> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> 
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> 
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39:28PM +, José Silveira wrote:

> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

Of course, it is not a devil.   IT is a helper daemon.
It is your prejudice and lack of knowledge of ancient mythology that
leads you to calling it a devil.

What you should do it look in the FreeBSD-Questions list archive.
THere are hundreds of responses already posted to this question.
There is even stuff on the web site and a simple Google search will
get you many more.

jerry
  


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

2010/11/11 José Silveira :
> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!


Is this better?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
> 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>
>
> Is this better?
>

(sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Gatten]

PLEASE let's not rehash this again!!! 

- Original Message -
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
To: José Silveira 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Thu Nov 11 18:50:00 2010
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
> 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>
>
> Is this better?
>

(sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Jos Silveira on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> 
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> 
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My muslins are staying where they are in the linen closet, and my jwishes
are safe in the jwish jwawrer.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ryan Coleman]

LMFAO! I wish I had caught that.

My muslins, OTOH, are jwrapped around my photo studio.

On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Chip Camden wrote:

> Quoth Jos Silveira on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>> 
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>> 
>> José Silveira
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> My muslins are staying where they are in the linen closet, and my jwishes
> are safe in the jwish jwawrer.
> 
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Gatten]

Well, if nothing else this thread is proving to at least be good for a laugh!

- Original Message -
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
To: Chip Camden 
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org 
Sent: Thu Nov 11 19:09:34 2010
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

LMFAO! I wish I had caught that.

My muslins, OTOH, are jwrapped around my photo studio.

On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Chip Camden wrote:

> Quoth Jos Silveira on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>> 
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>> 
>> José Silveira
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> My muslins are staying where they are in the linen closet, and my jwishes
> are safe in the jwish jwawrer.
> 
> -- 
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Gary Gatten  wrote:
> PLEASE let's not rehash this again!!!
>

I'm only sending the link to the haloed (sp?) daemon now because I
wish I had last time but f'd it up.
I'm done now . . . I just thought that those who are offended by
"evil" daemons would appreciate the "holy" ones.

> - Original Message -
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
> 
> To: José Silveira 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
> Sent: Thu Nov 11 18:50:00 2010
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
>> 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>>
>>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>>
>>
>> Is this better?
>>
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Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: José Silveira 
Date: 2010/11/11
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
To: Neal Hogan 


What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!

2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
>
> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
> > 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
> >> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> >>
> >> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> >
> >
> > Is this better?
> >
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> (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

2010/11/11 José Silveira :
> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>
> José Silveira

Oh shit... here we go again!
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan  wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: José Silveira 
> Date: 2010/11/11
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> To: Neal Hogan 
>
>
> What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
> this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
>

First, please don't top-post.
Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap
once again.
Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave.


> 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
>>
>> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
>> > 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>> >> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>> >>
>> >> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run 
>> >> away!
>> >
>> >
>> > Is this better?
>> >
>>
>> (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan  wrote:
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: José Silveira 
>> Date: 2010/11/11
>> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>> To: Neal Hogan 
>>
>>
>> What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
>> this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
>>
>
> First, please don't top-post.
> Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap
> once again.
> Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave.
>

I hear ya . . . I'm done . . . I was just messin' around
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ryan Coleman]

He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.

And I will top-post til the day I die.

:)

On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan  wrote:
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: José Silveira 
>> Date: 2010/11/11
>> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>> To: Neal Hogan 
>> 
>> 
>> What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
>> this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
>> 
> 
> First, please don't top-post.
> Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap
> once again.
> Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave.
> 
> 
>> 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
>>> 
>>> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
>>>> 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>>>>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>>>> 
>>>>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run 
>>>>> away!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is this better?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jorge Biquez]

hello all.

Some times during the year this kind of threads 
generates a lot more answers and immediate 
responses like any other I like it! it 
makes me laugh and makes forget some real problems thanks a lot!


Jorge Biquez

At 07:16 p.m. 11/11/2010, you wrote:

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Well, if nothing else this thread is proving to at least be good for a laugh!

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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 


To: Chip Camden 
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org 
Sent: Thu Nov 11 19:09:34 2010 Subject: Re: Why 
do you use a devil as a mascot?


LMFAO! I wish I had caught that.

My muslins, OTOH, are jwrapped around my photo studio.

On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Chip Camden wrote:

> Quoth Jos Silveira on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes 
Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

>>
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Adam Vande More]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ryan Coleman  wrote:

> He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
>
> And I will top-post til the day I die.
>
> :)
>

Please follow list expectations, if you don't like it find another list.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html#ETIQUETTE-REPLYING

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

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On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ryan Coleman  wrote:
> He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
> 
> And I will top-post til the day I die.
> 
> :)
> 
> Please follow list expectations, if you don't like it find another list.
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html#ETIQUETTE-REPLYING
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Really... I have a finger for that. I *HATE* bottom posting. It makes quick 
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Dave Robison]

On 11/11/10 15:39, José Silveira wrote:

Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

José Silveira
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39:28PM +, José Silveira wrote:
> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> 
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

Perhaps it is merely an effective booby trap to catch small-minded people
who are too narrow in their thinking to consider doing something
intelligent like search the Web, Wikipedia, or the mailing list archives
for an answer to this question.  It's not like it doesn't come up every
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:40:03PM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
> 
> And I will top-post til the day I die.

Hurry up.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Ryan" == Ryan Coleman  writes:

Ryan> Really... I have a finger for that. I *HATE* bottom posting. It
Ryan> makes quick checking of email impossible.

Only when people don't properly trim... another necessary item in
posting, whether top *or* bottom.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:06:51PM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> 
> Really... I have a finger for that. I *HATE* bottom posting. It makes
> quick checking of email impossible.

Start a different mailing list, then, where the rule is top-posting.  The
fact you do not like answering in natural text order does not excuse you
for behaving in an antisocial manner that violates list guidelines and
cultural norms here at freebsd-questions.

Of course, if you want have mailing lists that are conducive to very
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technical content.  One of the reason top posting is considered harmful
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is better for IM-like responses that do not require any thought.

If you prefer thoughtless "discussion", go somewhere that is the norm.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Adam Vande More]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Randal L. Schwartz
wrote:

> > "Ryan" == Ryan Coleman  writes:
>
> Ryan> Really... I have a finger for that. I *HATE* bottom posting. It
> Ryan> makes quick checking of email impossible.
>
> Only when people don't properly trim... another necessary item in
> posting, whether top *or* bottom.
>

I thought I remembered this little gem:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-June/177810.html

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Kline]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:24:01PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:40:03PM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> > He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
> > 
> > And I will top-post til the day I die.
> 
> Hurry up.
> 
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LOLOLOL; LMAO ah, [mumble].



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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ryan Coleman]

On Nov 11, 2010, at 23:25, Gary Kline  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:24:01PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:40:03PM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>> He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
>>> 
>>> And I will top-post til the day I die.
>> 
>> Hurry up.
>> 
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> 
> LOLOLOL; LMAO ah, [mumble].


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ott Köstner]

On 12.11.2010 6:21, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39:28PM +, José Silveira wrote:
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> Perhaps it is merely an effective booby trap to catch small-minded people
> who are too narrow in their thinking to consider doing something
> intelligent like search the Web, Wikipedia, or the mailing list archives
> for an answer to this question.  It's not like it doesn't come up every
> damned six months.
>
IMHO, this is the best answer so far.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Wojciech Puchar]

Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

because i use freebsd. and i am a devil.
And every true devil use FreeBSD.



For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

José Silveira
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ross Cameron]

2010/11/12 José Silveira 

> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!


Because we don't want narrow minded, religious bigots clogging up the
mailing lists like this one.
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Anton Shterenlikht]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:38:19AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
> 2010/11/12 Jos?? Silveira 
> 
> > Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> >
> > For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

who are the Muslins and Jwishes anyway?

Some form of Martin life?
I've never heard of them.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Matthew Seaman]

On 12/11/2010 09:38, Ross Cameron wrote:
> 2010/11/12 José Silveira 
> 
>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> 
> 
> Because we don't want narrow minded, religious bigots clogging up the
> mailing lists like this one.

Didn't you know?  It's an international conspiracy between (inter alia)
The FreeBSD Project, Manchester United Football Club and the Parachute
Regiment display team.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Ryan Coleman  wrote:
> He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response.
>
> And I will top-post til the day I die.
>
> :)
>

I'm sorry Neal my bad, I wasn't in a joke mood and didn't realize the fwd.
It's just that this devil religious crap really got to me this time.

Cheers,
Alex

> On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan  wrote:
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: José Silveira 
>>> Date: 2010/11/11
>>> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>> To: Neal Hogan 
>>>
>>>
>>> What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
>>> this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
>>>
>>
>> First, please don't top-post.
>> Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap
>> once again.
>> Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave.
>>
>>
>>> 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
>>>>
>>>> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
>>>>> 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
>>>>>> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run 
>>>>>> away!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this better?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Dave Robison on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
> On 11/11/10 15:39, José Silveira wrote:
> >Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> >
> >For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
> >
> >José Silveira
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:36:29PM -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan  wrote:
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: José Silveira 
> > Date: 2010/11/11
> > Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> > To: Neal Hogan 
> >
> >
> > What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
> > this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
> >
> 
> First, please don't top-post.
> Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap
> once again.
> Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave.

Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for
the first time probably each day.Some of them will have the same
mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's
heads from an early age.Although you may get tired of hearing that
same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a 
person a troll if they ask the question.


The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.
If they make useful use of the information, they are not a troll, just
someone needing information.   If they want to add tricky new twists
to keep the thing going, then they probably are a troll and ignoring
additional responses becomes even more important.

So, if you want other prople to use their intelligence, then practice
using yours.

jerry


> 
> 
> > 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
> >>
> >> 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
> >> > 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
> >> >> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> >> >>
> >> >> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run 
> >> >> away!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is this better?
> >> >
> >>
> >> (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 07:26:17PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Gary Gatten  wrote:
> > PLEASE let's not rehash this again!!!
> >
> 
> I'm only sending the link to the haloed (sp?) daemon now because I
> wish I had last time but f'd it up.
> I'm done now . . . I just thought that those who are offended by
> "evil" daemons would appreciate the "holy" ones.

> > (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg

I like this one.   
It continues the tongue firmly in the cheek sense of the whole BSDie thing.
Thanks for posting it.

jerry


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Tom Worster]

On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister"  wrote:

>Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for
>the first time probably each day.Some of them will have the same
>mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's
>heads from an early age.Although you may get tired of hearing that
>same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a
>person a troll if they ask the question.

Hmm.

It is inconsiderate and lazy to ask someone else to answer a question
without making any effort to answer it yourself first. The misdeed is
multiplied when the culprit asks hundreds of people in a discussion group
such as this. That's why it is often considered a violation of etiquette.
The fact that lmgtfy.com and 'RTFM' are both well know suggests that this
is not a fringe opinion.


>The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
>to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.

I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:15:37PM -0500, Tom Worster wrote:

> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister"  wrote:
> 
> >Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for
> >the first time probably each day.Some of them will have the same
> >mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's
> >heads from an early age.Although you may get tired of hearing that
> >same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a
> >person a troll if they ask the question.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> It is inconsiderate and lazy to ask someone else to answer a question
> without making any effort to answer it yourself first. The misdeed is
> multiplied when the culprit asks hundreds of people in a discussion group
> such as this. That's why it is often considered a violation of etiquette.
> The fact that lmgtfy.com and 'RTFM' are both well know suggests that this
> is not a fringe opinion.

You expect a newbie to know it all.   
That is inconsiderate and lazy.
You started somewhere, so does everyone else.



> 
> 
> >The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
> >to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.
> 
> I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing.
> 

You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude.

jerry   
  
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tom Worster  wrote:
> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister"  wrote:
>
>>Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for
>>the first time probably each day.    Some of them will have the same
>>mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's
>>heads from an early age.    Although you may get tired of hearing that
>>same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a
>>person a troll if they ask the question.
>
> Hmm.
>
> It is inconsiderate and lazy to ask someone else to answer a question
> without making any effort to answer it yourself first. The misdeed is
> multiplied when the culprit asks hundreds of people in a discussion group
> such as this. That's why it is often considered a violation of etiquette.
> The fact that lmgtfy.com and 'RTFM' are both well know suggests that this
> is not a fringe opinion.
>
>
>>The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
>>to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.
>
> I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing.
>
>

Thanks Tom, I was beginning to think no one else cared about such
netiquette, and I just opted to let it go. Nevertheless, now that you
brought this up, I would like to point a couple of more things out to
Jerry:

The _intelligent_ thing to do is to actually read before blabbering
here about some religious crap.

When the OP signed up to this list he must have read this:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL

Where things like the following are very clearly stated:

When in doubt about what list to post a question to, see How to get
best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.
Which points to this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/

Before posting to any list, please learn about how to best use the
mailing lists, such as how to help avoid frequently-repeated
discussions, by reading the Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) document.
Which points to this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/

And in almost all these places there are links to the netiquette,
recommendations on how to search before you post and tons of
information on how to correctly interact with these mailing lists.

Ignorantia legis neminem excusat

Cheers,
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jerry McAllister  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:15:37PM -0500, Tom Worster wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister"  wrote:
>>
[...]

> You expect a newbie to know it all.
> That is inconsiderate and lazy.
> You started somewhere, so does everyone else.
>

True. But when you join an existing community you _should_ be just a
bit more prudent don't you think?
Furthermore, I think we all have screwed up more than once and have
had our good share of rudeness, and have dealt with it.
The bad thing IMO is to continue to attack like the OP did after
realizing his comment was not very welcome.

>
>
>>
>>
>> >The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
>> >to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.
>>
>> I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing.
>>
>
> You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude.
>

I can't make out what you are trying to say here, but Tom's attitude
is in fact the correct one. Is the well-accepted way of doing things
in the hacker world, and very true, it's not for everyone.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Alex

> jerry
>
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Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Neal Hogan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alejandro Imass  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tom Worster  wrote:
>> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister"  wrote:
>>
>>>Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for
>>>the first time probably each day.    Some of them will have the same
>>>mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's
>>>heads from an early age.    Although you may get tired of hearing that
>>>same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a
>>>person a troll if they ask the question.
>>
>> Hmm.
>>
>> It is inconsiderate and lazy to ask someone else to answer a question
>> without making any effort to answer it yourself first. The misdeed is
>> multiplied when the culprit asks hundreds of people in a discussion group
>> such as this. That's why it is often considered a violation of etiquette.
>> The fact that lmgtfy.com and 'RTFM' are both well know suggests that this
>> is not a fringe opinion.
>>
>>
>>>The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person
>>>to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it.
>>
>> I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Tom, I was beginning to think no one else cared about such
> netiquette, and I just opted to let it go. Nevertheless, now that you
> brought this up, I would like to point a couple of more things out to
> Jerry:
>
> The _intelligent_ thing to do is to actually read before blabbering
> here about some religious crap.
>
> When the OP signed up to this list he must have read this:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
>
> Where things like the following are very clearly stated:
>
> When in doubt about what list to post a question to, see How to get
> best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.
> Which points to this:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/
>
> Before posting to any list, please learn about how to best use the
> mailing lists, such as how to help avoid frequently-repeated
> discussions, by reading the Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions
> (FAQ) document.
> Which points to this:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/
>
> And in almost all these places there are links to the netiquette,
> recommendations on how to search before you post and tons of
> information on how to correctly interact with these mailing lists.
>
> Ignorantia legis neminem excusat
>

Yes, yes, yes . . . but back to the issue at hand; cartoons with red
faces and two horns, carrying sharp, pointy things indicate the evil
that must be . . . . ummm . . . I don't know. I'm probably going to
hell just for having thoughts about Satan (or whatever). Like I said,
I don't know ;-)

Ok . . . "now" I'm done.
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:43:23 -0500
Alejandro Imass  articulated:

> And in almost all these places there are links to the netiquette,
> recommendations on how to search before you post and tons of
> information on how to correctly interact with these mailing lists.

Which are virtually never used. Hell, virgins get more action than some
of those links.

Les excuses sont comme des abrutis, tout le monde en avait un.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

José Silveira  writes:

> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!

Well, i don't think devil is bad thing. What do you think of?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> 
> You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude.

Not at all.

It does indeed involve indulging others to do what you described.  There
is nothing necessarily wrong with that, but "indulgent" is exactly what
it is.

While it may be "intelligent" to do so as well (depending on
circumstances and goals), it is not *the* intelligent thing to do, which
implies that anything else is necessarily "unintelligent".  May other
approaches could be intelligent as well, including some non-indulgent
approaches.

This "attitude" does not preclude being indulgent, and I'm sure that any
of us who have that "attitude" would indulge our children (if we have
them) by feeding them in their youth to ensure they do not starve.  One
would hope, however, that we would teach those children to be a bit more
self-sufficient before they reach the age of majority, however -- and
that this self-sufficiency might suggest to them that a first approach to
figuring out how to find out why a particular OS uses a given logo might
be to check Wikipedia or search Google, or even to check the mailing list
archives, before making accusatory, holier-than-thou demands of the
community in the mailing list.

The entire approach of the OP's demands was offensive and showed a
distinct attitude of unwarranted entitlement.  It should be no wonder
that people did not respond positively, especially given that it happens
probably about twice a year.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Chad Perrin  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude.
>
> Not at all.
>
> It does indeed involve indulging others to do what you described.  There
> is nothing necessarily wrong with that, but "indulgent" is exactly what
> it is.
>
> While it may be "intelligent" to do so as well (depending on
> circumstances and goals), it is not *the* intelligent thing to do, which
> implies that anything else is necessarily "unintelligent".  May other
> approaches could be intelligent as well, including some non-indulgent
> approaches.
>
> This "attitude" does not preclude being indulgent, and I'm sure that any
> of us who have that "attitude" would indulge our children (if we have
> them) by feeding them in their youth to ensure they do not starve.  One
> would hope, however, that we would teach those children to be a bit more
> self-sufficient before they reach the age of majority, however -- and
> that this self-sufficiency might suggest to them that a first approach to
> figuring out how to find out why a particular OS uses a given logo might
> be to check Wikipedia or search Google, or even to check the mailing list
> archives, before making accusatory, holier-than-thou demands of the
> community in the mailing list.
>
> The entire approach of the OP's demands was offensive and showed a
> distinct attitude of unwarranted entitlement.  It should be no wonder
> that people did not respond positively, especially given that it happens
> probably about twice a year.
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>

I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed from
the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the
dark to learn the proper netiquette of this list. Must we continue to beat
this already dead horse?

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but what's worse is when you play it forward
 ...it installs Windows 2000

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Charlie Kester]

On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:

Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?


Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Gatten]

Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:

M$ vs Novell
"Unix" vs "Linux"
Mainframe vs "PC"
DAS vs SAN
Top-posting vs Bottom posting
Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada

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Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
>Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?

Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Charlie Kester wrote:

> On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
>
>> Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?
>>
>
> Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
> dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.
>
>
But that has turned into quite an interesting philosophical debate. No one
is flamming anyone and everyone is contributing a little here and there to
the CLU(TUI)/GUI debate.

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  ...it installs Windows 2000

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gary Gatten  wrote:

> Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
>
> M$ vs Novell
> "Unix" vs "Linux"
> Mainframe vs "PC"
> DAS vs SAN
> Top-posting vs Bottom posting
> Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada
>
>
How ironic, I was just having this debate w/ a friend of mine off-list.
(top-posting vs. bottom-posting that is).

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If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,

but what's worse is when you play it forward
  ...it installs Windows 2000
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Gatten]

Bottom posting is a HUGE PITA on mobile devices, which I use a LOT. But, if top 
posting is the rule and the accepted way, then I GUESS I'll make more effort to 
avoid top posting. Maybe a new years resolution?


From: Chris Brennan 
To: Gary Gatten
Cc: corky1...@comcast.net ; 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Fri Nov 12 18:10:55 2010
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gary Gatten 
mailto:ggat...@waddell.com>> wrote:
Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:

M$ vs Novell
"Unix" vs "Linux"
Mainframe vs "PC"
DAS vs SAN
Top-posting vs Bottom posting
Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada


How ironic, I was just having this debate w/ a friend of mine off-list. 
(top-posting vs. bottom-posting that is).

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,


but what's worse is when you play it forward
  ...it installs Windows 2000
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Polytropon]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester  
wrote:
> On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
> >Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?
> 
> Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
> dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.

Why "vs"? It's "and". So let's have the "vs" vs "and" debate.
And as we are already on-topic, let's discuss which logical
operator is the best, maybe we find an alternative to "vs"
or "and"... or... yes, what about "or"? :-)


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Charlie Kester]

On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote:

Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:

M$ vs Novell
"Unix" vs "Linux"
Mainframe vs "PC"
DAS vs SAN
Top-posting vs Bottom posting
Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada


OK, I'll play:

Gnome vs KDE
Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
GPL vs BSDL
C vs any other programming language
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Gary Gatten]

Dude, MicroFocus COBOL is WAY better than any flavor of "C"!  C is an 
indication of average, 70%!  Why didn't they call it "A"?

And yes, I'm joking about MicroFC vs C.  I'm not a developer so afaik assembly 
is the best!  All I do know is nothing is worse than Java. Not sure where that 
went wrong, but I HATE all the dependancy constraints Java apps have.  At one 
point I had to run 4 version of jave in two different browsersd to use the apps 
I needed.  BS!

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Sent: Fri Nov 12 18:22:26 2010
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote:
>Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
>
>M$ vs Novell
>"Unix" vs "Linux"
>Mainframe vs "PC"
>DAS vs SAN
>Top-posting vs Bottom posting
>Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada

OK, I'll play:

Gnome vs KDE
Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
GPL vs BSDL
C vs any other programming language
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Charlie" == Charlie Kester  writes:

Charlie> OK, I'll play:

Charlie> Gnome vs KDE
Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
Charlie> GPL vs BSDL
Charlie> C vs any other programming language

Perl vs Readability

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Polytropon]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:47:40 -0800, mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) 
wrote:
> > "Charlie" == Charlie Kester  writes:
> 
> Charlie> OK, I'll play:
> 
> Charlie> Gnome vs KDE
> Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
> Charlie> GPL vs BSDL
> Charlie> C vs any other programming language
> 
> Perl vs Readability
> 
> :-)

Man vs machine?

:-)



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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Charlie Kester]

On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:47:40 PST Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

"Charlie" == Charlie Kester  writes:


Charlie> OK, I'll play:

Charlie> Gnome vs KDE
Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
Charlie> GPL vs BSDL
Charlie> C vs any other programming language

Perl vs Readability


Coming from you, Randal, that's delicious!  Thanks for the laugh.
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:44:01PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> 
> I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed from
> the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the
> dark to learn the proper netiquette of this list. Must we continue to beat
> this already dead horse?

What would you have me do -- beat a live horse?  I'm not inclined to
subject a living creature to such cruelty.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Bruce Cran]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
Chris Brennan  wrote:

> Did you know...
> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> but what's worse is when you play it forward
>   ...it installs Windows 2000

Yes, I think we know that by now.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Mubeesh ali]

i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Bruce Cran  wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
> Chris Brennan  wrote:
>
>> Did you know...
>> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
>> but what's worse is when you play it forward
>>                                       ...it installs Windows 2000
>
> Yes, I think we know that by now.
>
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Chad Perrin  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:44:01PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> >
> > I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed
> from
> > the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the
> > dark to learn the proper netiquette of this list. Must we continue to
> beat
> > this already dead horse?
>
> What would you have me do -- beat a live horse?  I'm not inclined to
> subject a living creature to such cruelty.
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>


Is beating a dead horse no more cruel?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran  wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
> Chris Brennan  wrote:
>
> > Did you know...
> > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> > but what's worse is when you play it forward
> >   ...it installs Windows 2000
>
> Yes, I think we know that by now.
>
> --
> Bruce Cran
>

It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my sig to
the list.

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but what's worse is when you play it forward
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Ryan Coleman]

On Nov 13, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Chris Brennan wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
>> Chris Brennan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you know...
>>> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
>>> but what's worse is when you play it forward
>>>  ...it installs Windows 2000
>> 
>> Yes, I think we know that by now.
>> 
>> --
>> Bruce Cran
>> 
> 
> It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my sig to
> the list.

And my friends all got a kick out of it when I shared it. Not all are FreeBSD 
fans but all hate Windows 2K the same 
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Bruce Cran]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:08:02 -0500
Chris Brennan  wrote:

> It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my
> sig to the list.
> 
> Did you know...
> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> 
> but what's worse is when you play it forward
>   ...it installs Windows 2000
>-- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
> 
> 

The problem is that it's part of the main block of text and as such is
rather offputting. If you want it to be your signature it should be
separated from the main block of text somehow - preferably by the
signature separator ("-- " followed by a newline).

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Liontaur]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Gary Gatten  wrote:

> Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
>
> M$ vs Novell
> "Unix" vs "Linux"
> Mainframe vs "PC"
> DAS vs SAN
> Top-posting vs Bottom posting
> Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada



I was just thinking about how much better vi is compared to emacs ;)

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:06:55AM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> >
> > What would you have me do -- beat a live horse?  I'm not inclined to
> > subject a living creature to such cruelty.
> 
> Is beating a dead horse no more cruel?

Do dead horses have feelings?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Ryan Coleman  wrote:

>
> On Nov 13, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Chris Brennan wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran  wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
> >> Chris Brennan  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Did you know...
> >>> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> >>> but what's worse is when you play it forward
> >>>  ...it installs Windows 2000
> >>
> >> Yes, I think we know that by now.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruce Cran
> >>
> >
> > It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my sig
> to
> > the list.
>
> And my friends all got a kick out of it when I shared it. Not all are
> FreeBSD fans but all hate Windows 2K the same :)



I'm glad it amused them, as that is it's purpose.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Bruce Cran  wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:08:02 -0500
> Chris Brennan  wrote:
>
> > It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my
> > sig to the list.
> >
> > Did you know...
> > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> >
> > but what's worse is when you play it forward
> >   ...it installs Windows 2000
> >-- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
> > 
> >
>
> The problem is that it's part of the main block of text and as such is
> rather offputting. If you want it to be your signature it should be
> separated from the main block of text somehow - preferably by the
> signature separator ("-- " followed by a newline).
>
> --
> Bruce Cran
>


Ya know, I have it there, but for some reason, GMail/Google Apps Keeps
omitting it, I've resorted to manually putting it in when I move my sig from
the the top of the message body.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chris Brennan]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:06:55AM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Chad Perrin 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > What would you have me do -- beat a live horse?  I'm not inclined to
> > > subject a living creature to such cruelty.
> >
> > Is beating a dead horse no more cruel?
>
> Do dead horses have feelings?
>
> --
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>

I would imagine not, but the spirit of the dead horse might. And it would
suck if that spirit were to come back as an ugly 8ft fly-thing with a really
bad attitude and a grudge. Poor Aurthur...Just can't catch a break!

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:06:55 -0500
Chris Brennan  articulated:

> Did you know...
> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> but what's worse is when you play it forward
> 
>   ...it installs Windows 2000
>-- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
> 
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I am now creating a kill filter for this poster. If he isn't smart
enough to figure out how to properly enter his factually incorrect,
obsolete and well worn codicil to every message correctly; i.e, after
the "sig-delimiter", then I have not the time not inclination to read
his dribble.

Attention Chris Brennan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block

http://email.about.com/od/emailsignaturenetiquette/qt/Use_the_Standard_Email_Signature_Delimiter.htm

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[David DEMELIER]

2010/11/12 José Silveira :
> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>
> José Silveira
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I never thought this kind of mail could spawn 70 answers in only two
days. It takes useless storage for nothing. You are wasting your time
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Mario Lobo]

On Friday 12 November 2010 23:27:42 Mubeesh ali wrote:
> i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)
> 

Let's hack the term and use lucifer instead!

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Justin V.]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Mario Lobo wrote:


On Friday 12 November 2010 23:27:42 Mubeesh ali wrote:

i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)



Let's hack the term and use lucifer instead!

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Svein Skogen (Listmail account)]

On 13.11.2010 15:59, Mario Lobo wrote:
> On Friday 12 November 2010 23:27:42 Mubeesh ali wrote:
>> i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)
>>
> 
> Let's hack the term and use lucifer instead!

Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the FAQ or
the "resources for newbies" on the website?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Tom Worster]

On 11/12/10 7:18 PM, "Polytropon"  wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester
> wrote:
>>On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
>>>Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?
>>Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
>>dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.
>
>Why "vs"? It's "and". So let's have the "vs" vs "and" debate.

isn't that where Derrida wrote the book?


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Tom Worster]

On 11/12/10 6:44 PM, "Chris Brennan"  wrote:

>I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed from
>the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the
>dark to learn the proper netiquette of this list. Must we continue to beat
>this already dead horse?

in his most recent email to me, José Silveira signed off with: "Finally, I
am very happy to not to be part of freeBSD community."

i admit i'm happy about that too.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Charlie Kester,

Am 2010-11-12 16:22:26, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote:
> >Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
> >
> >M$ vs Novell
> >"Unix" vs "Linux"
> >Mainframe vs "PC"
> >DAS vs SAN
> >Top-posting vs Bottom posting
> >Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada
> 
> OK, I'll play:
> 
> Gnome vs KDE
> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
> GPL vs BSDL
> C vs any other programming language

Debian vs. FreeBSD.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Liontaur,

Am 2010-11-12 23:55:22, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> I was just thinking about how much better vi is compared to emacs ;)

Thats normaly, because emacs is an Operating System which lakes an editor

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:

> 
> Did you know...
> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> but what's worse is when you play it forward
>   ...it installs Windows 2000

I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
current one.

jerry


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:08:00PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote:

> >> i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)
> >>
> 
> Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the FAQ or
> the "resources for newbies" on the website?

Now that is a good idea.

jerry

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Jerry]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:37:48 -0500
Jerry McAllister  articulated:

> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:08:00PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail
> account) wrote:
> 
> > >> i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in
> > >> subject ;-) 
> > 
> > Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the
> > FAQ or the "resources for newbies" on the website?  
> 
> Now that is a good idea.

That would be a waste of time. You would be working under the totally
unproven assumption that it would actually be read or adhered to.

Now, if this forum were open only to subscribers and when they
subscribed this info was presented in the "welcome" message and if they
were forewarned that even thinking about asking this question of the
forum would result in their banishment from the forum, then perhaps
you might have a working solution.

I give Wietse a lot of credit for the way he runs his Postfix forum.
Continuing a post after its usefulness has waned, or asking
unrelated questions, etc. can and does get you banished from the group.
Maybe it is time to get a moderator with a set for this forum.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Bruce Cran]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:01:22 -0500
Jerry  wrote:

> I give Wietse a lot of credit for the way he runs his Postfix forum.
> Continuing a post after its usefulness has waned, or asking
> unrelated questions, etc. can and does get you banished from the
> group. Maybe it is time to get a moderator with a set for this forum.

The NTDEV list has another way of dealing with these issues: a thread
can get locked if it strays off-topic or becomes otherwise useless,
preventing further follow-ups.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[bdsfbsd]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:37:48 -0500, Jerry McAllister   
wrote:


On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:08:00PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail  
account) wrote:


Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the FAQ or
the "resources for newbies" on the website?


Now that is a good idea.

jerry



And when someone asks this question, somebody refer them to said FAQ and  
THAT'S IT, instead of this huge list of people saying "oh no, not this  
again", debates on religion, on whether or not the OP is a troll, and some  
outright insulting and rude responses. Please, everyone, the next time  
somebody asks this question, refer to the FAQ (which needs amended,)  
respond off-list, or not at all.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Robert Huff]

Bruce Cran writes:

>  The NTDEV list has another way of dealing with these issues: a
>  thread can get locked if it strays off-topic or becomes otherwise
>  useless, preventing further follow-ups.

That would require a level of active moderation I don't
remember seeing here.


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > 
> > Did you know...
> > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> > but what's worse is when you play it forward
> 
> I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
> current one.

I vote Vista.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 05:35:13PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Charlie Kester,
> 
> Am 2010-11-12 16:22:26, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> > On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote:
> > >Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
> > >
> > >M$ vs Novell
> > >"Unix" vs "Linux"
> > >Mainframe vs "PC"
> > >DAS vs SAN
> > >Top-posting vs Bottom posting
> > >Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada
> > 
> > OK, I'll play:
> > 
> > Gnome vs KDE
> > Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
> > GPL vs BSDL
> > C vs any other programming language
> 
> Debian vs. FreeBSD.

I'm shocked -- SHOCKED! -- that there still has not been any mention of
vi vs. emacs in this list.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 05:36:13PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Liontaur,
> 
> Am 2010-11-12 23:55:22, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> > I was just thinking about how much better vi is compared to emacs ;)
> 
> Thats normaly, because emacs is an Operating System which lakes an editor

s/lakes/lacks/

That's not actually true, you know.  Emacs has a passable editor called
Viper Mode.  It's not ideal, but I suppose beggars can't be choosers.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Robert Bonomi]

> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:18:03 +0100
> From: Polytropon 
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester  
> wrote:
> > On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
> > >Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?
> > 
> > Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
> > dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.
>
> Why "vs"? It's "and". So let's have the "vs" vs "and" debate.
> And as we are already on-topic, let's discuss which logical
> operator is the best, maybe we find an alternative to "vs"
> or "and"... or... yes, what about "or"? :-)

  "or?"   NOT!! 

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punctuation matters)  was it "Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure"?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Svein Skogen (Listmail account)]

On 13.11.2010 21:29, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:18:03 +0100
>> From: Polytropon 
>> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester  
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote:
>>>> Must we continue to beat this already dead horse?
>>>
>>> Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally
>>> dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate.
>>
>> Why "vs"? It's "and". So let's have the "vs" vs "and" debate.
>> And as we are already on-topic, let's discuss which logical
>> operator is the best, maybe we find an alternative to "vs"
>> or "and"... or... yes, what about "or"? :-)
> 
>   "or?"   NOT!! 

XOR

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Robert Bonomi]

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Nov 12 18:34:27 2010
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:22:26 -0800
> From: Charlie Kester 
> To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" 
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote:
> >Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat:
> >
> >M$ vs Novell
> >"Unix" vs "Linux"
> >Mainframe vs "PC"
> >DAS vs SAN
> >Top-posting vs Bottom posting
> >Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada
>
> OK, I'll play:
>
> Gnome vs KDE
> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
> GPL vs BSDL
> C vs any other programming language

should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'?
(nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this day)

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Robert Bonomi]

> From: mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:47:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> >>>>> "Charlie" == Charlie Kester  writes:
>
> Charlie> OK, I'll play:
>
> Charlie> Gnome vs KDE
> Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
> Charlie> GPL vs BSDL
> Charlie> C vs any other programming language
>
> Perl vs Readability
>
<*SNORt*>  That's what APL is for -- to make Perl look readable

somebody once claimed that the -only- way to obfuscate an APL 
program -- more than it _naturally_ was, that is -- was to write
It as TECO source.




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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> 
> should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'?
> (nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this day)

Why would we need a one-letter name?

C++ is also known as CPP.  D is already another programming language, so
we can't really use that for C++.  I don't know what this P has to do
with it.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Da Rock]

On 11/13/10 16:08, Chris Brennan wrote:

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran  wrote:

   

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500
Chris Brennan  wrote:

 

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
   ...it installs Windows 2000
   

Yes, I think we know that by now.

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It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my sig to
the list.

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,

but what's worse is when you play it forward
   ...it installs Windows 2000
   

I personally love it - way too true! Mind if I use it?

Incidentally, doesn't this hold true for all Winblow$ disks?

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Da Rock]

On 11/14/10 05:22, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
   

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
 

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
   

I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
current one.
 

I vote Vista.

   
I vote Winblow$ 7. The bloody "cloud" for photos ad on tv gives me the 
shits no end. 1) As if you'd need more than one computer to edit a 
photo, and 2) as if you could solve anything with M$ crap in the first 
place...


And the missus doesn't like the idea of an "unnatural" photo either, so 
that'd be 2 votes


Oh and thank you! Finally I have a FreeBSD media system! Hoorah! Now to 
move forward finally...


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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Andrew Falanga]

2010/11/11 José Silveira 

> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
>
> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!
>
>
Jose,

So many have replied already and I truthfully haven't read each post.  I did
want to say something about this though since I am a Christian.  Early on I
was a little troubled.  However, this was due, not to some tennent of the
faith but rather to my ignorance of my own faith and immaturity.  The
reality is, that mascot for FreeBSD has nothing whatsoever to do with Satan.

Andy
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Richard T C Farnes]

Why do some people get  hung up in some  features of our cute little mascot 
that remind them of devils. You must look at it in a positive way that 
represents FreeBSD like a sporting character that has a sporty attitude. Just  
observe the modern running shoes and it has a harpoon in its hand to signify 
being ready to attack all problems on the way. Linux has only a lazy penguin 
that does not seem to be  doing anything except sitting on its behind.

Hope this answers all questions about this matter
Sign
Richard Farnes


On Saturday 20 November 2010 09:00:04 Da Rock wrote:
> On 11/14/10 05:22, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> >>> Did you know...
> >>> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> >>> but what's worse is when you play it forward
> >>
> >> I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
> >> current one.
> >
> > I vote Vista.
>
> I vote Winblow$ 7. The bloody "cloud" for photos ad on tv gives me the
> shits no end. 1) As if you'd need more than one computer to edit a
> photo, and 2) as if you could solve anything with M$ crap in the first
> place...
>
> And the missus doesn't like the idea of an "unnatural" photo either, so
> that'd be 2 votes
>
> Oh and thank you! Finally I have a FreeBSD media system! Hoorah! Now to
> move forward finally...
>
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Alejandro Imass]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richard T C Farnes
 wrote:
[...]
> Linux has only a lazy penguin
> that does not seem to be  doing anything except sitting on its behind.
>

:-)
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Da Rock]

On 11/23/10 07:29, Richard T C Farnes wrote:

Why do some people get  hung up in some  features of our cute little mascot
that remind them of devils. You must look at it in a positive way that
represents FreeBSD like a sporting character that has a sporty attitude. Just
observe the modern running shoes and it has a harpoon in its hand to signify
being ready to attack all problems on the way. Linux has only a lazy penguin
that does not seem to be  doing anything except sitting on its behind.

Hope this answers all questions about this matter
Sign
Richard Farnes


   
If you don't mind, I'll use that perspective in my marketing. I like 
that one :)



On Saturday 20 November 2010 09:00:04 Da Rock wrote:
   

On 11/14/10 05:22, Chad Perrin wrote:
 

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
   

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
 

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
   

I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
current one.
 

I vote Vista.
   

I vote Winblow$ 7. The bloody "cloud" for photos ad on tv gives me the
shits no end. 1) As if you'd need more than one computer to edit a
photo, and 2) as if you could solve anything with M$ crap in the first
place...

And the missus doesn't like the idea of an "unnatural" photo either, so
that'd be 2 votes

Oh and thank you! Finally I have a FreeBSD media system! Hoorah! Now to
move forward finally...

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Richard T C Farnes]

To Da Rock and others
Please feel free  to use my text here in any marketing.

On Tuesday 23 November 2010 00:47:50 Da Rock wrote:
> On 11/23/10 07:29, Richard T C Farnes wrote:
> > Why do some people get  hung up in some  features of our cute little
> > mascot that remind them of devils. You must look at it in a positive way
> > that represents FreeBSD like a sporting character that has a sporty
> > attitude. Just observe the modern running shoes and it has a harpoon in
> > its hand to signify being ready to attack all problems on the way. Linux
> > has only a lazy penguin that does not seem to be  doing anything except
> > sitting on its behind.
> >
> > Hope this answers all questions about this matter
> > Sign
> > Richard Farnes
>
> If you don't mind, I'll use that perspective in my marketing. I like
> that one :)
>
> > On Saturday 20 November 2010 09:00:04 Da Rock wrote:
> >> On 11/14/10 05:22, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
>  On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > Did you know...
> > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
> > but what's worse is when you play it forward
> 
>  I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
>  current one.
> >>>
> >>> I vote Vista.
> >>
> >> I vote Winblow$ 7. The bloody "cloud" for photos ad on tv gives me the
> >> shits no end. 1) As if you'd need more than one computer to edit a
> >> photo, and 2) as if you could solve anything with M$ crap in the first
> >> place...
> >>
> >> And the missus doesn't like the idea of an "unnatural" photo either, so
> >> that'd be 2 votes
> >>
> >> Oh and thank you! Finally I have a FreeBSD media system! Hoorah! Now to
> >> move forward finally...
> >>
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Steve Bertrand]

On 2010.11.11 19:44, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Not this shit again...

Amen!

Steve
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Steve Bertrand]

On 2010.11.11 23:49, Adam Vande More wrote:

> I thought I remembered this little gem:
> 
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-June/177810.html

LMFAO!!

Steve

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Re: Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 11 November 2010:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: José Silveira 
> Date: 2010/11/11
> Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> To: Neal Hogan 
> 
> 
> What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me
> this crap! I hope freebsd explodes!
> 
> 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan 
> >
> > 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan :
> > > 2010/11/11 José Silveira :
> > >> Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
> > >>
> > >> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run 
> > >> away!
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this better?
> > >
> >
> > (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg
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Naturally he lashed out at you, the one respondent who actually tried to
provide a solution for his non-problem.

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