Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Odhiambo Washington]

2012/2/23 Al Hadith 

> Hi,
>
> My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of
> your operating system.
>
> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.
>
> The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big
> companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you
> should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your
> website.
>
> Please visit http://www.freebsd.org/ to see the logo and the picture, both
> of which I strongly recommend that you remove.
>
> I am highly educated and qualified.
>
>
Hi  Al Hadith (alias Roy Mathew),

What is it in particular that you don't like about the logo and the picture?


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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Al Hadith,

> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.

What are you talking about?

The little Devil ist the Maskot of BSD and will never changed!

> The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big
> companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you
> should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your website.

Are you jokeing?

> I am highly educated and qualified.

I can't believe!

> From
> Roy Mathew

Hmmm, why does your Name in the E-Mail differ from your signature?
You can not be serious!

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Bernt Hansson]

2012-02-23 13:29, Al Hadith skrev:


I am highly educated and qualified.


Not really, no.
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

Al Hadith  writes:
> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.
>  
> The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big
> companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that
> you should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in
> your website.

I'm sorry you feel that way.  There are plenty of other operating
systems with more palatable mascots and logos; perhaps you will be
happier with one of those than with FreeBSD.  I wish you all the best.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Andrey Chernov]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:29:12PM +0400, Al Hadith wrote:
> 
> I am highly educated and qualified.

Thanks for clarification.
Since you are so intelligent, there is no sense mocking you.
You got us. We are Shaitan worshippers.
Our Symbol intentionally looks so childish to bring innocent souls to the 
Evil side.
Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! Hail Satan!

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Joshua Isom]

On 2/23/2012 11:27 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote:

there is no sense mocking you.
You got us. We are Shaitan worshippers.
Our Symbol intentionally looks so childish to bring innocent souls to the
Evil side.
Never underestimate the power of the


Shaitan or seitan?

To the original poster, because of FreeBeastie's licensing, you're free 
to fork it(much like the trident) and change to logo to a group of 
imams.  Be sure to change all references of daemons in the source code 
to something else.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Jerry]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400
Andrey Chernov articulated:

{snip}

1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post?

2) Why are we feeding this troll?

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Chris Rees]

2012/2/23 Al Hadith :
> Hi,
>
> My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of
> your operating system.
>
> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.
>
> The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big
> companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you
> should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your website.
>
> Please visit http://www.freebsd.org/ to see the logo and the picture, both
> of which I strongly recommend that you remove.
>
> I am highly educated and qualified.
>
> From
> Roy Mathew

Your signature doesn't match your gecos.

Chris
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Ismael Farfán]

2012/2/23 Jerry :
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400
> Andrey Chernov articulated:
>
> {snip}
>
> 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post?
>
> 2) Why are we feeding this troll?

Probably the troll actually has good a point there!
http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html

>
>                                              .:\:/:.
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>          |  FEED THE TROLLS  |           :=.' -   - '.=:
>          |                   |           '=(\ 9   9 /)='
>          |   Thank you,      |              (  (_)  )
>          |       Management  |              /`-vvv-'\
>          +---+             /         \
>                  |  |        @@@          / /|,|\ \
>                  |  |        @@@         /_//  /^\  \\_\
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Robison, Dave]

On 02/23/2012 09:27, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! Hail Satan! 

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Lowell Gilbert]

Jerry  writes:

> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400
> Andrey Chernov articulated:
>
> {snip}
>
> 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post?

Me. Should I feel left out?
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Mike Jeays]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:44:16 -0500
Lowell Gilbert  wrote:

> Jerry  writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400
> > Andrey Chernov articulated:
> >
> > {snip}
> >
> > 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post?
> 
> Me. Should I feel left out?
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Me too. I think you had to have a freebsd.org mailing address to get the
special treatment.

Is there a way to find out how many people are on these mailing lists?
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

what effort was it to collect the nearly 400 addresses?

On Thursday 23 February 2012 19:29:12 Al Hadith wrote:
> 
> My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of
> your operating system.
> 
Al, Mathew?

> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.

Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't you 
like sex toys?
> 
> I am highly educated and qualified.

In what?

Erich
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Steve Bertrand]

On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote:


I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
unnecessary picture right in front of your website.


Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't you 
like sex toys?


lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid 
2000's. I see some things just stick ;)


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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 01:19:23 Jerry wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400
> Andrey Chernov articulated:
> 
> {snip}
> 
> 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post?

it was only 400 of yours. So, not so bad.
> 
> 2) Why are we feeding this troll?

To have some fun trolling the troll.

Erich
> 
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 06:18:16 Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> 
> >> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
> >> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.
> >
> > Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't 
> > you like sex toys?
> 
> lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid 
> 2000's. I see some things just stick ;)

yes, he spoke it out loud.

I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns.

Erich
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:18, Steve Bertrand wrote:

> On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>
>  I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the
>>> unnecessary picture right in front of your website.
>>>
>>
>> Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy.
>> Don't you like sex toys?
>>
>
> lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid
> 2000's. I see some things just stick ;)
>
>
And now that someone has mentioned Ted Mittelstaedt, I really miss Ted. He
made me love FreeBSD because of all the assistance he'd give. Where is he??


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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Matthew Seaman]

On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns.

That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
west too...

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Matthew Seaman]

On 24/02/2012 07:32, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>> I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
>>> horns.
>>
>> That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
>> west too...
>>
> do they vibrate when they get moved?
> 
> The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make 
> them vibrate.

I bow to your superior knowledge of the seamier side of hardware.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 13:59:03 Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:18, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> 
> > On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> >
> > lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid
> > 2000's. I see some things just stick ;)
> >
> >
> And now that someone has mentioned Ted Mittelstaedt, I really miss Ted. He
> made me love FreeBSD because of all the assistance he'd give. Where is he??
> 
he actually has had written a book which made me return to BSD after a long 
absence.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
> > horns.
> 
> That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
> west too...
> 
do they vibrate when they get moved?

The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make them 
vibrate.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Julian H. Stacey]

Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
> > > horns.
> > 
> > That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
> > west too...
> > 
> do they vibrate when they get moved?
> 
> The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make 
> them vibrate.

Yes there's an acoustic element to them I recall, about 3.5 cm (2.54
cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2.  Pick one up & it feels like an outer
stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight.
Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how
they assembled the 2 halves.  I suppose spot welding, then circular
rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ?

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Jerry]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:39 +
Matthew Seaman articulated:

> On 24/02/2012 07:32, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> >> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> >>> I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just
> >>> without the horns.
> >>
> >> That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in
> >> the west too...
> >>
> > do they vibrate when they get moved?
> > 
> > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside
> > which make them vibrate.
> 
> I bow to your superior knowledge of the seamier side of hardware.

In a past life, I worked in radio "traffic analysis". It is really a
rather fascinating exercise in how things can evolve or fit together.
Here we started out with a "TROLL" inquiring about a FreeBSD symbol and
have evolved into the discussion of "Ben Wa balls". Truly amazing.

You will notice that I did not CC what I have been told was 400
recipients. A month or so ago I was arguing against the use of CC'ing
in a mail forum. That example so very clearly demonstrated why.

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  |   |   '=(\ 9   9 /)='
  |   Thank you,  |  (  (_)  )
  |   Management  |  /`-vvv-'\
  +---+ / \
  |  |@@@  / /|,|\ \
  |  |@@@ /_//  /^\  \\_\
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 19:20:42 Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > > On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
> > > > horns.
> > > 
> > > That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
> > > west too...
> > > 
> > do they vibrate when they get moved?
> > 
> > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make 
> > them vibrate.
> 
> Yes there's an acoustic element to them I recall, about 3.5 cm (2.54

it sounds like on some, it doesn't sound like in others. There are different 
diameters available.

They are also a good tool to massage your own hands, get your back massages and 
- coming to the subject - do what people do with a thing looking like the 
famous logo.

> cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2.  Pick one up & it feels like an outer
> stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight.
> Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how
> they assembled the 2 halves.  I suppose spot welding, then circular
> rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ?

I also wanted to do the same too but I never did. I have no idea how they are 
really manufactured.

Erich
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Julian H. Stacey]

> > cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2.  Pick one up & it feels like an outer
> > stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight.
> > Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how
> > they assembled the 2 halves.  I suppose spot welding, then circular
> > rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ?
> 
> I also wanted to do the same too but I never did. I have no idea how they are 
> really manufactured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_wa_balls
Has nothing on welding/ manufacturing, just usage.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[C. P. Ghost]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Erich Dollansky
 wrote:
> On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>> > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
>> > horns.
>>
>> That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
>> west too...
>
> do they vibrate when they get moved?

Yes, but only if they run FreeBSD, and only if they have the
hw.balls.vibrating sysctl(8) set to 1.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday 26 February 2012 03:26:48 C. P. Ghost wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Erich Dollansky
>  wrote:
> > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> >> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> >> > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the 
> >> > horns.
> >>
> >> That would be what most people call a "ball."  They have them in the
> >> west too...
> >
> > do they vibrate when they get moved?
> 
> Yes, but only if they run FreeBSD, and only if they have the
> hw.balls.vibrating sysctl(8) set to 1.

always these complicated things. This is why life here is so much more exiting.

We do not need sysctl.

Erich
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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

[Chad Perrin]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:09:13AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> 
> always these complicated things. This is why life here is so much more
> exiting.
> 
> We do not need sysctl.

I guess that depends on your definition of sysctl, and I rather like it.

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Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Dave]

Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" settings.

Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was 
it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.

Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?

Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are 
they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server 
somewhere.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Dave]

On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote:
> > Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to"
> > settings.
> 
> I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all.
> > 
> > Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388
> > (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.
> 
> Wasn't it 389?

:-)

> > 
> > Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?
> > 
> > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from,
> > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some
> > server somewhere.
> 
> Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org?
> 
> Erich

Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate 
posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed.

I never intentionaly use any "Reply to All" function.  In fact, this 
mailer doesn't even have a button for that.  You have to select where the 
reply goes, after you hit the "reply" button, from a list of available 
addresses in the incoming message header, that the mailer has recognised.

Just a thought as this problem is not going to go away.

Dave B.

PS:
How about a "regional Beastie" wearing a headscarf and carring an assault 
rifle instead of a trident?

That's me targeted then

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

"Dave"  writes:
> Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are 
> they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server 
> somewhere.

It is public information:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-committers.html

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Julian H. Stacey]

=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote:
> "Dave"  writes:
> > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are 
> > they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server 
> > somewhere.
> 
> It is public information:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-committers.html

Also
http://www.freebsd.org/internal/homepage.html

Cheers,
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote:
> Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" settings.

I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all.
> 
> Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was 
> it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.

Wasn't it 389?
> 
> Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?
> 
> Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are 
> they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server 
> somewhere.

Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org?

Erich
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Dave]

On 24 Feb 2012 at 12:37, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> "Dave"  writes:
> > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from,
> > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some
> > server somewhere.
>
> It is public information:
>
> http://www.freebsd. org/doc/en_ US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff
> -committers.html
>
> DES
> --
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no
>
>

Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address
harvesting bots won't get anything usable.

Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info,
you have to re-type it manually.

Most other similar websites have done that sort of thing with great
success.

I can't believe in this day and age, info like that is still presented in
a way that makes it harvister-bot friendly.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Da Rock]

On 02/24/12 20:42, Dave wrote:

On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote:


Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote:

Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to"
settings.

I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all.

Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388
(was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.

Wasn't it 389?

:-)


Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?

Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from,
are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some
server somewhere.

Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org?

Erich

Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate
posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed.
Actually, they're all the addresses found in the committers section of 
the site. No scripting required.


As I've mentioned before, I'm not sure this is a troll as such.
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[David Brodbeck]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
> Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address
> harvesting bots won't get anything usable.
>
> Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info,
> you have to re-type it manually.

I really don't recommend that.  Keep in mind not everyone can use the
"Mk1 eyeball."  Websites need to be accessible to blind people using
screen reader software, too.
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Da Rock]

On 02/25/12 12:03, David Brodbeck wrote:

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave  wrote:

Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address
harvesting bots won't get anything usable.

Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info,
you have to re-type it manually.

I really don't recommend that.  Keep in mind not everyone can use the
"Mk1 eyeball."  Websites need to be accessible to blind people using
screen reader software, too.
And therein lies the problem. How do you maintain accessibility while 
preventing bots from harvesting? You can't have your cake and eat it 
too... :)


Only solution lies in a security gate of good filters and blocklists. 
But occasionally one or two will still pass.

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Daniel Feenberg]

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:


On 02/25/12 12:03, David Brodbeck wrote:

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave  wrote:

Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address
harvesting bots won't get anything usable.

Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info,
you have to re-type it manually.

I really don't recommend that.  Keep in mind not everyone can use the
"Mk1 eyeball."  Websites need to be accessible to blind people using
screen reader software, too.
And therein lies the problem. How do you maintain accessibility while 
preventing bots from harvesting? You can't have your cake and eat it too... 
:)


Only solution lies in a security gate of good filters and blocklists. But 
occasionally one or two will still pass.


An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, 
for instance:


  feenberg is at nber dot org

or some variant won't be picked up by a robot. But is it really practical 
to treat an email address as a secret, when it will be shared with 
hundreds of correspondents? I have mostly thought that was hopeless. We do 
it on our website because we don't want to bother arguing with people.


daniel feenberg
feenb...@nber.org
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[C. P. Ghost]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg  wrote:
> An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, for
> instance:
>
>  feenberg is at nber dot org
>
> or some variant won't be picked up by a robot.

Most bots use some rather sophisticated regexp pattern
matching nowadays, including some primitive JavaScript
parsing to defeat the most popular JS-based obfuscations.
This one is very, very obvious and among the easiest ones
(including the "is" variation). You couldn't hide from them
this way.

-cpghost.

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

[Joshua Isom]

On 2/25/2012 7:11 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg  wrote:

An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, for
instance:

  feenberg is at nber dot org

or some variant won't be picked up by a robot.


Most bots use some rather sophisticated regexp pattern
matching nowadays, including some primitive JavaScript
parsing to defeat the most popular JS-based obfuscations.
This one is very, very obvious and among the easiest ones
(including the "is" variation). You couldn't hide from them
this way.

-cpghost.



What happens if the person going to the website doesn't speak any 
english and uses a translating service?  The username or domain name 
could be mangled to something different.

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