Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-11 Thread Joel Adamson
Gerard,

Thanks for the recommendations.  I'm still using Windows at work, so I'll keep 
your recommendations in mind.

Let me explain the situation, just for your peace of mind: Let's say I'm 
writing something in a word processor; I want to check something on the 
internet, or I want to initiate a download.  I open my browser and click on a 
few things and then go back to my word processor while I'm waiting for a 
webpage to load.  The annoying behavior is that Ill be typing, and I type darn 
fast, and then when the webpage is done loading, the focus will shift and I'll 
still be typing.  I'll type half a word before I realize that I'm now looking 
at a webpage.  Sometimes I even use the alt key or the control key and that's 
when it can really skrew me up.

Come to think of it, it's only Internet explorer that does this.

Thanks,
Joel

Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Adamson wrote:

 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to
 choose a nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want
 to get away from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing
 along in one place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window
 focus shifts, I keep typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window
 (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, who would be content to keep
 typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and ready).

I prefer KDE myself, but there are many options out there to choose from.

BTW, the Window's scenario you describe is totally configurable. You
could start by downloading 'Power Tools':

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

That should take care of most of your easily corrected problems until
you settle on a new GUI. I am slightly perplexed by the webpage will
finish loading ...  passage however. Are you inferring that a page just
mysteriously loaded on its own? More than likely you initialed the
operation. The majority of people I believe would want the page that
they are opening to become the primary focus point. You can change the
configuration to have pages open in the background however, although I
fail to see why.


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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On 2006 Sep 11, Joel Adamson wrote:
 Gerard,
 
 Thanks for the recommendations.  I'm still using Windows at work, so I'll 
 keep your recommendations in mind.
 
 Let me explain the situation, just for your peace of mind: Let's say I'm 
 writing something in a word processor; I want to check something on the 
 internet, or I want to initiate a download.  I open my browser and click on a 
 few things and then go back to my word processor while I'm waiting for a 
 webpage to load.  The annoying behavior is that Ill be typing, and I type 
 darn fast, and then when the webpage is done loading, the focus will shift 
 and I'll still be typing.  I'll type half a word before I realize that I'm 
 now looking at a webpage.  Sometimes I even use the alt key or the control 
 key and that's when it can really skrew me up.

I've been using xfce and mwm and never had problems with focus shifting.

anton
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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-09 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Joel Adamson thusly...

 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD ...  want to
 choose a nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I
 want to get away from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll
 be typing along in one place, then a webpage will finish loading,
 the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute a bunch of
 commands in the new window
...
 In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of
 things (i.e., only does what I ask it to).

In FVWM (under /usr/ports/x11-wm/fvwm2-devel), you can set the
window raising  moving, focus changing,  pointer moving poiclies
to achieve what you want.  You can even set it per window (based on
its resource or title).

You should install fvwm-themes too (in
/usr/ports/x11-themes/fvwm-themes) if you don't want to directly
edit the configuration files.


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Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Joel Adamson
Hello List,

I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a nice 
window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away from in 
Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, then a 
webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute 
a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, 
who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and 
ready).

In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things (i.e., 
only does what I ask it to).

Recommendations welcome.

thanks,
Joel


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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote:
 
 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a 
 nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away from 
 in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, 
 then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing 
 and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather 
 than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when 
 I'm good and ready).
 
 In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things 
 (i.e., only does what I ask it to).

If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.

(you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Chris
Darrin Chandler wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote:
 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a 
 nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away 
 from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one 
 place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep 
 typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, 
 rather than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage 
 when I'm good and ready).

 In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things 
 (i.e., only does what I ask it to).
 
 If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
 been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
 
 (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
 

I prefer XFCE4

Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote:
  
  If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
  been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
  
  (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
  
 
 I prefer XFCE4
 
 Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?

http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some
screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want
something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X
version of screen, on steroids. :)

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread ajm
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:02:51PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote:
   
   If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
   been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
   
   (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
   
  
  I prefer XFCE4
  
  Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?
 
 http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some
 screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want
 something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X
 version of screen, on steroids. :)
 

Try this website:
http://xwinman.org/

It will give an idea of what is out there.

If you are looking for a lot of bells and whistles...try KDE or Gnome.
I personally like Fluxbox.  http://fluxbox.org/

You have to remember that window managers/desktops are like ice-cream...
some people perfer one flavor over another.  So give some a try...

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