Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 23:44 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote:
 On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned
  the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep
  the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it
  as a result.
 
  --Brett Glass
 
 
 Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you
 have no idea why
 the licence was changed!
 
 Tom

Depends upon your definition of free.


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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:46:13AM +, Tom Evans wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 23:44 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote:
  On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned
   the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep
   the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it
   as a result.
  
  Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you
  have no idea why
  the licence was changed!
 
 Depends upon your definition of free.

My definition of free, in this case, looks something like this:

  http://www.copyfree.org/

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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-10 Thread Tom Wickline
On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned
 the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep
 the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it
 as a result.

 --Brett Glass


Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you
have no idea why
the licence was changed!

Tom
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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-10 Thread Brett Glass
It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned
the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep
the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it
as a result.

--Brett Glass

At 10:59 AM 12/6/2007, Tom Wickline wrote:
 
Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on
FreeBSD and believe you can
help us out see :
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html

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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:41:24PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
 It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned
 the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep
 the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it
 as a result.

Somehow I missed that.

Was there any discussion of a fork?

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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:44:55PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote:
 
 Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you
 have no idea why
 the licence was changed!

So . . . why was it changed?

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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:59:08PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote:
 
 I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers But just in
 case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same
 on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working
 most every game that is running in Wine should run
 on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and
 four Benchmarks, but it does look promising.

I play WoW a bit.  Around here, we (my SigO and I) have only gotten so
far as getting it running on Linux.  I had a machine lying around I was
going to try to get running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE not long ago, and see if
getting WoW working was as good on FreeBSD as on Debian GNU/Linux.
Unfortunately, the machine appears to have developed some hardware issues
in the couple months it lay dormant, so that project is off until:

  A. I get a new machine working,
  B. I nail down the specific issues with this one and get it working, or
  C. it becomes eas[y|ier] to get 3D acceleration working with a Radeon.

Assuming one of those things happens, I hope I remember to report back in
this thread.

Thanks for the links.

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Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-06 Thread Tom Wickline
Hello Everyone,

I have a small blog about running Wine on Unix operating systems and
over the last couple days I've been
experimenting with Wine on FreeBSD 7 beta 2 (I see beta 4 is out, many thanks!)

If anyone here is interested I ran Office 97 and 2000 out of the box
on FreeBSD 7beta no registry files
or special hacks needed. Ive also run a couple small applications
(Qicktime 7.1.6) (IE 5 5.5 6) and then some benchmarks
3DMark 2000v1.1, 3DMark2001SE, GL Excess and PC Mark04. In the future
ill see if I can get 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark 2005
to run and produce results as well.

I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers But just in
case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same
on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working
most every game that is running in Wine should run
on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and
four Benchmarks, but it does look promising.

More info can be found here:

Wine-Review front Page:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/

Office 97/2000:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000-on-freebsd-7-with.html
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/office-97-on-freebsd-with-wine.html

IE, QT etc..
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quicktime-716-on-freebsd-7-with-wine.html
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/ies-4-freebsd-internet-explorer-50-55.html

Benchmark results  Halo:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/benchmarking-wine-on-freebsd-7.html
http:/http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/halo-combat-evolved-on-freebsd-with.html

Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on
FreeBSD and believe you can
help us out see :
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html

Thanks for your time.

Cheers,

Tom Wickline
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Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7

2007-12-06 Thread Tom Wickline

Hello Everyone,

I have a small blog about running Wine on Unix operating systems and
over the last couple days I've been
experimenting with Wine on FreeBSD 7 beta 2 (I see beta 4 is out, many
thanks!)

If anyone here is interested I ran Office 97 and 2000 out of the box
on FreeBSD 7beta no registry files
or special hacks needed. Ive also run a couple small applications
(Qicktime 7.1.6) (IE 5 5.5 6) and then some benchmarks
3DMark 2000v1.1, 3DMark2001SE, GL Excess and PC Mark04. In the future
ill see if I can get 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark 2005
to run and produce results as well.

I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers But just in
case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same
on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working
most every game that is running in Wine should run
on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and
four Benchmarks, but it does look promising.

More info can be found here:

Wine-Review front Page:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/

Office 97/2000:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000-on-freebsd-7-with.html
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/office-97-on-freebsd-with-wine.html

IE, QT etc..
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quicktime-716-on-freebsd-7-with-wine.html
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/ies-4-freebsd-internet-explorer-50-55.html

Benchmark results  Halo:
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/benchmarking-wine-on-freebsd-7.html
http:/http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/halo-combat-evolved-on-freebsd-with.html

Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on
FreeBSD and believe you can
help us out see :
http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html

Thanks for your time.

Cheers,

Tom Wickline
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