Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
Warren Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, you're saying that although I can run things on my server, I shouldn't have expected to get the RDP/VNC extra's (if you can call it that) such as the menu(items), background, windowmanager, etcetera. I basically expected the remote gnome to appear as a window that I could throw fullscreen or have minimized. Is that possible in any way? Without installing any additional software: SSH to the remote host, start Xnest and run gnome-session on the Xnest display. There are other ways to do this, the closest equivalent to RDP in the Unix world is NX by NoMachine (www.nomachine.com). Don't even think about VNC - it is extremely insecure. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
Why are you trying to start a window manager on the remote machine? You only need (or can have) one per session, and in this case (as in most cases), I would expect it to be on the machine that is running the X server (which seems to be your Ubuntu machine). Just log into the FreeBSD machine and run your applications; they will be displayed on your existing X session. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
2007/5/1, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why are you trying to start a window manager on the remote machine? You only need (or can have) one per session, and in this case (as in most cases), I would expect it to be on the machine that is running the X server (which seems to be your Ubuntu machine). Just log into the FreeBSD machine and run your applications; they will be displayed on your existing X session. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ Mmm, good point. So, you're saying that although I can run things on my server, I shouldn't have expected to get the RDP/VNC extra's (if you can call it that) such as the menu(items), background, windowmanager, etcetera. I basically expected the remote gnome to appear as a window that I could throw fullscreen or have minimized. Is that possible in any way? Cheers, Warren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
Warren Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2007/5/1, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why are you trying to start a window manager on the remote machine? You only need (or can have) one per session, and in this case (as in most cases), I would expect it to be on the machine that is running the X server (which seems to be your Ubuntu machine). Just log into the FreeBSD machine and run your applications; they will be displayed on your existing X session. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ Mmm, good point. So, you're saying that although I can run things on my server, I shouldn't have expected to get the RDP/VNC extra's (if you can call it that) such as the menu(items), background, windowmanager, etcetera. Right. There can only be one guy in charge. I basically expected the remote gnome to appear as a window that I could throw fullscreen or have minimized. Is that possible in any way? Yes, there are applications to do that. VNC is probably the best-known. It's in ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
Hi list, I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine, through ssh. Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues. I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on Ubuntu I also have Gnome running. Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I get on the console: SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272 Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. ** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM ^C What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that the Gnome-Settings daemon failed. There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The last error message was: Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1 GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar. When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running. In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but not very well together. It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally obvious. I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled XDMCP. (consciously) So, what strikes me as very odd: GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username and password are the same. Cheers, Warren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
2007/4/30, WarrenHead [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi list, I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine, through ssh. Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues. I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on Ubuntu I also have Gnome running. Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I get on the console: SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272 Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. ** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM ^C What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that the Gnome-Settings daemon failed. There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The last error message was: Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1 GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar. When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running. In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but not very well together. It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally obvious. I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled XDMCP. (consciously) So, what strikes me as very odd: GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username and password are the same. Cheers, Warren Hi list, I noticed that only these output lines are related to connecting from my ubuntu machine; Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. I just used a windows machine with Xming and that worked fine, except for the GDM message about not being authenticated. So, does this give anybody a clue as to what is malconfigured? Cheers, Warren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?
2007/4/30, Warren Head [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/4/30, WarrenHead [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi list, I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine, through ssh. Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues. I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on Ubuntu I also have Gnome running. Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I get on the console: SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272 Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost: 10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. ** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM ^C What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that the Gnome-Settings daemon failed. There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The last error message was: Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1 GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar. When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running. In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but not very well together. It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally obvious. I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled XDMCP. (consciously) So, what strikes me as very odd: GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username and password are the same. Cheers, Warren Hi list, I noticed that only these output lines are related to connecting from my ubuntu machine; Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost: 10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display localhost:10.0 already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. I just used a windows machine with Xming and that worked fine, except for the GDM message about not being authenticated. So, does this give anybody a clue as to what is malconfigured? Cheers, Warren 2 points: 1) Mmm, on Windows it all works very very slow, although both 'top' on FreeBSD (as the ssh server and X client) and processexplorer on windows (ssh client and X server) do not report a lot of processor activity. Then why is it all sooo slow? Does anybody have any performance experience with Xming? 2) It seems xdm is still working from time to time. It shows up in top whenever I move the mouse around or click something in Gnome. I guess I found a good clue as to why GDM can not authenticate me as a user. XDM seems to have taken that liberty. I don't know how to tell it to stop doing that, besides what I already did with this line in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config ! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests ! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 I guess there is more to it? Cheers, Warren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
