RE: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:20:12PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:10:10PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
   On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:48:03PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

I've built X without hal, but get this error on X -configure:

   
   Actually when running `X -configure` or when trying to use the
   resulting /root/xorg.conf.new? This looks more like an error in
   the configuration file and the results returned by google for
   this failure message suggest that this can be due to the server
   not being able to load a configured module. Anyway, I'd try
   to use the resulting xorg.conf.new and if that fails manually
   checking its contents and removing unnecessary and unavailable
   stuff like DRI for example.
  
  yes, on 'X -configure'. Removing modules doesn't help.
  
  and then on 'X -config ./xorg.conf.new':
  
 
 Could you please make that xorg.conf.new available somewhere?

ok, I moved a step further. 'X -configure' is now successful.
All I had to do is to move the graphics card to another pci
slot. Perhaps where xvr600 was, is not a standard pci slot
at all? pgx64 worked fine there in the text mode, but not
in the graphics mode.

So now I'm stopped with Signal over range message reported
by the monitor firmware (?).

The card seems to be detected, the scan frequencies I put
are from the manufacturer's specs, but still something is wrong.

I put conf and log files here:

http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf.new
http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/Xorg.0.log

I also get this on the console:

(++) Using config file: ./xorg.conf.new
failed to unset mtrr: Operation not supported by device
failed to unset mtrr: Operation not supported by device
^Cfailed to unset mtrr: Operation not supported by device
failed to unset mtrr: Operation not supported by device
#

not sure if this matters..

Please advise

many thanks all your help and support

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RE: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

ok, I moved a step further. 'X -configure' is now successful.
All I had to do is to move the graphics card to another pci
slot. Perhaps where xvr600 was, is not a standard pci slot
at all? pgx64 worked fine there in the text mode, but not
in the graphics mode.

So now I'm stopped with Signal over range message reported
by the monitor firmware (?).

The card seems to be detected, the scan frequencies I put
are from the manufacturer's specs, but still something is wrong.

I put conf and log files here:

http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf.new
http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/Xorg.0.log


Manually setting a single mode is probably the easiest:

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

That might be enough, or you might have to go to 1024x768.  You could 
limit the entries in the Monitor section to trick the card into picking 
a single reasonable mode, like VertRefresh 70, or HorizSync 30-50. 
(Assuming this is a CRT.  If it's an LCD, use VertRefresh 60.)


Incidentally, Radeon 7000 cards are available in standard PCI for $20 or 
so.  Not a great card, but quite an upgrade over a Mach64, and supported 
by a current driver.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:12:35AM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  ok, I moved a step further. 'X -configure' is now successful.
  All I had to do is to move the graphics card to another pci
  slot. Perhaps where xvr600 was, is not a standard pci slot
  at all? pgx64 worked fine there in the text mode, but not
  in the graphics mode.
 
  So now I'm stopped with Signal over range message reported
  by the monitor firmware (?).
 
  The card seems to be detected, the scan frequencies I put
  are from the manufacturer's specs, but still something is wrong.
 
  I put conf and log files here:
 
  http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf.new
  http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/Xorg.0.log
 
 Manually setting a single mode is probably the easiest:
 
 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 That might be enough, or you might have to go to 1024x768.  You could 
 limit the entries in the Monitor section to trick the card into picking 
 a single reasonable mode, like VertRefresh 70, or HorizSync 30-50. 
 (Assuming this is a CRT.  If it's an LCD, use VertRefresh 60.)

Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
HorizSync   30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  mach64
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

This is an LCD monitor, and the manuf. specs state
max res 1280x1024
horizontal: 30-80
vertical: 50-75

I tried modes down to 800x600 - no change.

I noticed also this error: 

(EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.
(EE) MACH64(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit Failed

should I add device drm to the kernel?
Just to remind, this is sparc64.

 Incidentally, Radeon 7000 cards are available in standard PCI for $20 or 
 so.  Not a great card, but quite an upgrade over a Mach64, and supported 
 by a current driver.

wow.. you mean on sparc64? I didn't know.
If it'll work on sparc, this would be great. There
are many more radeon 7000 on offer than pgx64.

many thanks as always

anton


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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
HorizSync   30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  mach64
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection


Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a different 
reference clock:


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1


(EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.
(EE) MACH64(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit Failed

should I add device drm to the kernel?


It seems unlikely that you'll get DRM on that card anyway.


Just to remind, this is sparc64.


Incidentally, Radeon 7000 cards are available in standard PCI for $20 or
so.  Not a great card, but quite an upgrade over a Mach64, and supported
by a current driver.


wow.. you mean on sparc64? I didn't know.
If it'll work on sparc, this would be great. There
are many more radeon 7000 on offer than pgx64.


No experience on my part, but...  The card BIOS may not work (as above 
with the reference clock), but if the system can do without and the PCI 
bus is standard...


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:26:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:
 
  Section Monitor
  Identifier   Monitor0
  HorizSync   30-50
  VertRefresh 60
  EndSection
 
  Section Device
  Identifier  Card0
  Driver  mach64
  BusID   PCI:0:2:0
  EndSection
 
 Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a different 
 reference clock:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1

yes, now you told me I see it's actually in the logs:

(--) MACH64(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz.
(II) MACH64(0): If modes do not work on Ultra 5/10 or Blade 100/150,
set option reference_clock to 28.636 MHz or 29.5 MHz

by using either 28.636 or 29.5 I now get no signal over range.
In fact I just get a black screen. Not sure if this is worse or better...

many thanks


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Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
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SOLVED: Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:26:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:
 
  Section Monitor
  Identifier   Monitor0
  HorizSync   30-50
  VertRefresh 60
  EndSection
 
  Section Device
  Identifier  Card0
  Driver  mach64
  BusID   PCI:0:2:0
  EndSection
 
 Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a different 
 reference clock:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1

out of desperation was re-reading the manual and saw this:

Starting with Xorg 7.4 and above, this test produces
a black screen which may make it difficult to diagnose
whether X11 is working properly. The older behavior
is still available by using the retro option:

# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro

so, yes, I got the grey screen and a cross, and the mouse
seems to be working.

Warren, many thanks for your help!

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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Marius Strobl
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:12:14PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:26:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
  On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:
  
   Section Monitor
 Identifier   Monitor0
 HorizSync   30-50
 VertRefresh 60
   EndSection
  
   Section Device
 Identifier  Card0
 Driver  mach64
 BusID   PCI:0:2:0
   EndSection
  
  Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a different 
  reference clock:
  
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1
 
 yes, now you told me I see it's actually in the logs:
 
 (--) MACH64(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz.
 (II) MACH64(0): If modes do not work on Ultra 5/10 or Blade 100/150,
   set option reference_clock to 28.636 MHz or 29.5 MHz
 
 by using either 28.636 or 29.5 I now get no signal over range.

The right value for a Rage XL is 29.5 MHz.

Marius

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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 09:29:54PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:12:14PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:26:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
   On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:
   
Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
HorizSync   30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection
   
Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  mach64
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection
   
   Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a different 
   reference clock:
   
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1
  
  yes, now you told me I see it's actually in the logs:
  
  (--) MACH64(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz.
  (II) MACH64(0): If modes do not work on Ultra 5/10 or Blade 100/150,
  set option reference_clock to 28.636 MHz or 29.5 MHz
  
  by using either 28.636 or 29.5 I now get no signal over range.
 
 The right value for a Rage XL is 29.5 MHz.

Marius, thank you, I figured it out already.
Here's the winning xorg.conf: http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf
in case somebody else might be using this hardware.

Also, could you comment on Warren's suggestion of Radeon 7000?
Do you think it might work on blade 1500?

many thanks as always

anton

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Re: Signal over range, WAS: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-22 Thread Marius Strobl
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:47:19PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 09:29:54PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:12:14PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:26:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 Warren, thank you, but this doesn't help. I've added:

 Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   HorizSync   30-50
   VertRefresh 60
 EndSection

 Section Device
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  mach64
   BusID   PCI:0:2:0
 EndSection

Hmm.  Some web searching says non-Intel platforms might need a 
different 
reference clock:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-faq.xml#doc_chap4_sect1
   
   yes, now you told me I see it's actually in the logs:
   
   (--) MACH64(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz.
   (II) MACH64(0): If modes do not work on Ultra 5/10 or Blade 100/150,
 set option reference_clock to 28.636 MHz or 29.5 MHz
   
   by using either 28.636 or 29.5 I now get no signal over range.
  
  The right value for a Rage XL is 29.5 MHz.
 
 Marius, thank you, I figured it out already.
 Here's the winning xorg.conf: http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf
 in case somebody else might be using this hardware.
 
 Also, could you comment on Warren's suggestion of Radeon 7000?
 Do you think it might work on blade 1500?
 

It won't work currently and also unlikely in the future.

Marius

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X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:48:03PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  
  I've built X without hal, but get this error on X -configure:
  
 
 Actually when running `X -configure` or when trying to use the
 resulting /root/xorg.conf.new? This looks more like an error in
 the configuration file and the results returned by google for
 this failure message suggest that this can be due to the server
 not being able to load a configured module. Anyway, I'd try
 to use the resulting xorg.conf.new and if that fails manually
 checking its contents and removing unnecessary and unavailable
 stuff like DRI for example.

yes, on 'X -configure'. Removing modules doesn't help.

On X -configure:


X.Org X Server 1.6.1
Release Date: 2009-4-14
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT sparc64 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-anton242.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT 
FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Dec 19 22:34:14 GMT 2009 
me...@mech-anton242.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HAMOR sparc64
Build Date: 19 December 2009  08:28:07PM
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Dec 20 22:04:26 2009
(II) Loader magic: 0x1508
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 8589944945.226)
(--) using VT number 9

(--) PCI: (0...@0:6:0) ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU] 
rev 0
(--) PCI: (1...@0:3:0) ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL rev 39, Mem @ 
0x0100/16777216, 0x0010/4096, I/O @ 0x0300/256, BIOS @ 
0x/65536
List of video drivers:
mach64
sunffb
(II) LoadModule: mach64
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//mach64_drv.so
(II) Module mach64: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 6.8.1
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) LoadModule: sunffb
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sunffb_drv.so
(II) Module sunffb: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.2.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) MACH64: Driver for ATI Mach64 chipsets
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for sunffb
(++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new
(==) ServerLayout X.org Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Card0
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(==) Not automatically adding devices
(==) Not automatically enabling devices
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.


and then on 'X -config ./xorg.conf.new':



X.Org X Server 1.6.1
Release Date: 2009-4-14
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT sparc64 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-anton242.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT 
FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Dec 19 22:34:14 GMT 2009 
me...@mech-anton242.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HAMOR sparc64
Build Date: 19 December 2009  08:28:07PM
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Dec 20 22:07:58 2009
(++) Using config file: ./xorg.conf.new
(==) ServerLayout X.org Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor 

Re: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-20 Thread Marius Strobl
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:10:10PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:48:03PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   
   I've built X without hal, but get this error on X -configure:
   
  
  Actually when running `X -configure` or when trying to use the
  resulting /root/xorg.conf.new? This looks more like an error in
  the configuration file and the results returned by google for
  this failure message suggest that this can be due to the server
  not being able to load a configured module. Anyway, I'd try
  to use the resulting xorg.conf.new and if that fails manually
  checking its contents and removing unnecessary and unavailable
  stuff like DRI for example.
 
 yes, on 'X -configure'. Removing modules doesn't help.
 
 and then on 'X -config ./xorg.conf.new':
 

Could you please make that xorg.conf.new available somewhere?

Marius

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Re: X -configure fails: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.

2009-12-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:20:12PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:10:10PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Marius Strobl wrote:
   On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:48:03PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

I've built X without hal, but get this error on X -configure:

   
   Actually when running `X -configure` or when trying to use the
   resulting /root/xorg.conf.new? This looks more like an error in
   the configuration file and the results returned by google for
   this failure message suggest that this can be due to the server
   not being able to load a configured module. Anyway, I'd try
   to use the resulting xorg.conf.new and if that fails manually
   checking its contents and removing unnecessary and unavailable
   stuff like DRI for example.
  
  yes, on 'X -configure'. Removing modules doesn't help.
  
  and then on 'X -config ./xorg.conf.new':
  
 
 Could you please make that xorg.conf.new available somewhere?

http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/freebsd/xorg.conf.new

thanks a lot

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University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
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