Re: X Configuration Woes
> >> I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a >> lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII >> box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting >> it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my >> Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. >> Well, installing FreeBSD for the first time is more compatible with an ambitious weekend than an lazy one - as you probably have discovered. It does take considerable work, though the rewards are commensurate. >> >> If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. >> >> Cheers, >> Andy > > Some updates: > > Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg > installed is 6.9.0. > I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf > either. From the command-line I ran "xdm" and the GUI started ... I > could login ... and then that's about it. > > 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems > protocol. More updates: I did manage to get my mouse in a working state. It's an old 3-button Logitech serial mouse. And guess what ... someone (I suspect myself) connected it to the second serial port. All the while I thought it was on /dev/cuad0 and I specified that as the device. Anyway, I reconnected it to /dev/cuad0 and the pointer does move now (I was running Linux all this while but never noticed this ... that's why Linux is becoming Windowy ... may be I am too cynical). I used the "microsoft" protocol. Still the mouse movements are not smooth all the time. The mouse hardly moves in the console. When I run xdm or startx from the command-line then it does move when X starts. But sometimes after some initial movement, it freezes hopelessly. Don't know what's wrong. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. > 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a > jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very > minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get > this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. The only thing I haven't managed to my liking is getting it to create anchor buttons for each thing when I bring it up. It only does so for the minimized windows. I got that in one version, but it seemed to mess up the focus control and click to bring forward action so I gave up on that. I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. Have fun, jerry > Cheers, > Andy > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
> Some updates: > > Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg > installed is 6.9.0. > I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf > either. From the command-line I ran "xdm" and the GUI started ... I > could login ... and then that's about it. > > 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems > protocol. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. Well, well ... sometimes I feel these days being a Linux user is no big deal. May be it never was but at least in the old days, by being a Linux user, I used to be more aware of what goes inside my box and what lights blink to tell what story. These days, Linux ... should I say most of the distros rather, make you feel like a pampered fuzzy user ... you really don't need to know an awful lot more about your box to get a fully functional system than you need to install M$ Window$. Some like it that way, but for me the fun is lost ... perhaps _the_ reason why I switched to FreeBSD ... anything comparable could do for me but I just happened to get my hands on these couple of ISOs. > 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a > jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very > minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get > this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. The only thing I haven't managed to my liking is getting it to create anchor buttons for each thing when I bring it up. It only does so for the minimized windows. I got that in one version, but it seemed to mess up the focus control and click to bring forward action so I gave up on that. I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. I am tired of these two lookalikes ... KDE and GNOME. They weren't in the olden days ... but they have undergone some serious plastic surgery of late and now I don't like the taste of either. So XFCE or Afterstep would be welcome changes. As another poster mentioned Ratpoison, I would be keen to find out about it too ... since it has been dubbed for being keyboard friendly. I hate mice. Have fun, You bet I am having fun. I am writing a blog article on why I picked up FreeBSD. You can find it after a while on my sparse blog http://shoddykid.blogspot.com. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
On 12/09/06, Jerold McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arindam writes: > >> I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a >> lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII >> box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting >> it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my >> Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. >> Well, installing FreeBSD for the first time is more compatible with an ambitious weekend than an lazy one - as you probably have discovered. It does take considerable work, though the rewards are commensurate. >> >> If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. >> >> Cheers, >> Andy > > Some updates: > > Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg > installed is 6.9.0. > I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf > either. From the command-line I ran "xdm" and the GUI started ... I > could login ... and then that's about it. > > 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems > protocol. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. > 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a > jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very > minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get > this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. Another you might like to try is XFCE. It's sort of midway between the likes of Afterstep and GNOME/KDE. Its own file manager has traditionally sucked, but the beauty of Linux is, you can mix and match. Plus, the new file manager (Thunar) in the newest versions looks lovely (I don't think you'll get the newest versions of anything if you install the ports collection from the RELEASE CDs though.) I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. That's correct; an awful lot of stuff in places like /usr/X11R6/lib and /etc, including .xinitrc and the .z* Z Shell configuration files, consists of global default settings and can be modified for each user in analogous configuration files in $HOME. Jeff Rollin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
Arindam writes: I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. Well, installing FreeBSD for the first time is more compatible with an ambitious weekend than an lazy one - as you probably have discovered. It does take considerable work, though the rewards are commensurate. If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. Cheers, Andy Some updates: Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg installed is 6.9.0. I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf either. From the command-line I ran "xdm" and the GUI started ... I could login ... and then that's about it. 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. The only thing I haven't managed to my liking is getting it to create anchor buttons for each thing when I bring it up. It only does so for the minimized windows. I got that in one version, but it seemed to mess up the focus control and click to bring forward action so I gave up on that. I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. Have fun, jerry Cheers, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
> > > > 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. > > > I've found I have to use /dev/sysmouse and Protocol "auto" instead of "PS/2" despite my mouse most definitely being PS/2. You already have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf as well? Unfortunately we are discussing a different problem ... if you read my (rather long) post, I have a serial mouse and there are more devices as well as protocols to choose from. So PS/2 mouse doesn't figure in here. Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 14:28 +0530, Subhro wrote: > On 9/12/06, Arindam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems > > protocol. > > > I've found I have to use /dev/sysmouse and Protocol "auto" instead of "PS/2" despite my mouse most definitely being PS/2. You already have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf as well? Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
On 9/12/06, Arindam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. You need to put the proper protocol in xorg.conf 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get this running or I can't sleep. Try ratpoison if you are more keyboard friendly or try out enlightenment if you are mouse friendly. Cheers!! Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X Configuration Woes
I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. Cheers, Andy Some updates: Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg installed is 6.9.0. I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf either. From the command-line I ran "xdm" and the GUI started ... I could login ... and then that's about it. 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get this running or I can't sleep. Cheers, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
X Configuration Woes
I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. Now I had these two FreeBSD 5.4 ISOs ... CD1 and CD2, and I booted from CD1 directly and did the install. There is no automatic X configuration in the installer so I tried running it manually. 1. I tried running "Xorg -configure". For some reason "Xorg -configure" threw an error: xf86EnableIO: could not open /dev/io for extended IO. However, when I did run: ls -l /dev/io I got: crw--- root wheel 246, 14 /dev/io 2. Never figured out what went wrong there but instead used "xorgconfig" and that "worked", as in, it wrote my config file. Here are my Screen details: *** Samsung Samtron 45Bn monitor (33-55 KHz HorSyncRate, 50-120 Hz Vert Refresh Rate). *** Cirrus Logic GD 5465 graphics card on a PCI slot - with 4MB video memory. *** For one, I have an immovable mouse ... it is an old haggardly Logitech 3-button serial mouse and I could not make it work. Don't know which is the device name to use for the port it is connected to. Should it be /dev/tty00 or /dev/cuad0 or /dev/sysmouse or /dev/mse0? So could not configure it. - Tried running sysinstall to configure it but that would not work either ... tried Logitech, Microsoft and MouseMan protocols and /dev/tty00 and /dev/cuad0 for device names ... all combinations. Did not work. I would have liked to attach my xorg.conf file but don't have access to it right away. I guess there are no probs in it ... I read through the relevant sections of it and from what I remember of my RedHat Linux 6.0 days, this file seems fine. 3. Finally I tried changing the /etc/ttys file and for /dev/ttyv8, turned xterm "on" from "off". ==>> Now each time I boot into FreeBSD, I get a flickering blank, black screen with nothing on it. I keep try [Ctrl+] Alt + F ...n=1..12 ... but no success. ==>> I keep trying Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ... but no breakthrough. ==>> I tried Ctrl + Alt + KP_+/- also, with the Num Lock on ... but again no respite. Some observations: 1. While the screen continuously flickers, the Num Lock of the Keyboard keeps blinking too (if it was on, to start with). 2. A while back, when I had not yet configured X with xorgconfig and just like that switched on "xterm" on /dev/ttyv8, I rememeber the getty program was respawning too quickly, due to which it was going into 30 second sleeps. So I switched xterm off. Of course, after that I found xorgconfig. 3. Here are the modes I have allowed in xorgconfig: a. 8 bit - 800x600, 640x480 (removed 1024x768, 1280x1024) b. 16 bit (default) - 800x600, 640x480 (removed 1024x768, 1280x1024) c. 24 bit - 800x600, 640x480 (removed 1024x768, 1280x1024) 4. Earlier, after completing xorgconfig, while xterm was off on ttyv8 in /etc/ttys, I tried: startx -- -depth 16 :1 vt10 and it gave me the same problems. 5. Finally, during sysinstall installation of the OS, I could not configure moused with my mouse ... and while I would briefly see a tiny pointer, I would not see it move with my mouse movements. If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. Cheers, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
