Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/21/11 07:39, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it. No, no- you won't. Both cards in the laptop are ATI. The HTPC has an onboard NVidia, and a PCIe 16x ATI. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server. I don't think I have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test. I'll have to look closer at it when I get a spare breath, it is a little intriguing. and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do the work. The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going. Is there anyone here that _can_ do the work? What about mentoring? As for the financials... thats something else to consider. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server. I don't think I have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test. and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do the work. The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/20/11 14:33, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... It's difficult to tell what you're saying. It's possible that multiple cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones I tried did not. Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and a desktop. So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop brand and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with FreeBSD (and which version of FreeBSD). NP. I thought I was clear, but I'm not always coherent when I communicate (apparently... just ask the missus :) ). The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... It's difficult to tell what you're saying. It's possible that multiple cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones I tried did not. Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and a desktop. So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop brand and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with FreeBSD (and which version of FreeBSD). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/20/11 03:05, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... So what are my options then? I have 2 high performance cards I can't use? VESA is not exactly an exciting solution - or secure: it somehow retains the image displayed in memory, and shows it as it loads up X the next time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've setup (same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and its fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is phenom quad core. The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've setup (same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and its fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is phenom quad core. The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
