Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread doug
When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 
I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to my Dell PE300 built 
in the last century. I was told the ability to have two cards in one box was 
lost due to int10 provided by libpciaccess.


Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the on-board card 
to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to suggest things have changed.


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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST)
d...@safeport.com  articulated:

> When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and
> xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to
> my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to
> have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by
> libpciaccess.
> 
> Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the
> on-board card to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to
> suggest things have changed.

Isn't there a jumper on the motherboard that can be used to disable
the on board card? Not all motherboards had one but it is worth a check
anyway, assuming you have not done so all ready.

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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread doug

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST)
d...@safeport.com  articulated:


When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and
xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to
my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to
have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by
libpciaccess.

Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the
on-board card to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to
suggest things have changed.


Isn't there a jumper on the motherboard that can be used to disable
the on board card? Not all motherboards had one but it is worth a check
anyway, assuming you have not done so all ready.


I was not aware of the possibility - thanks
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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-11 Thread doug

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, doug wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST)
d...@safeport.com  articulated:


When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and
xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to
my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to
have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by
libpciaccess.

Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the
on-board card to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to
suggest things have changed.


Isn't there a jumper on the motherboard that can be used to disable
the on board card? Not all motherboards had one but it is worth a check
anyway, assuming you have not done so all ready.


I was not aware of the possibility - thanks


The PE300 has no documented jumpers on the mother board effecting the VGA. Am I 
correct in my understanding that this is a FreeBSD issue that makes Xorg a 
'victim'?

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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread Fbsd8

doug wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, doug wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST)
d...@safeport.com  articulated:


When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and
xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to
my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to
have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by
libpciaccess.

Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the
on-board card to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to
suggest things have changed.


Isn't there a jumper on the motherboard that can be used to disable
the on board card? Not all motherboards had one but it is worth a check
anyway, assuming you have not done so all ready.


I was not aware of the possibility - thanks


The PE300 has no documented jumpers on the mother board effecting the 
VGA. Am I correct in my understanding that this is a FreeBSD issue that 
makes Xorg a 'victim'?

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Check the motherboard bios setup to disable the on motherboard vga port.
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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread doug

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Fbsd8 wrote:


doug wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, doug wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST)
d...@safeport.com  articulated:


When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and
xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to
my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to
have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by
libpciaccess.

Is this still the case? The BIOS on the PE300 does not allow the
on-board card to 'disappear'. I can not find any information to
suggest things have changed.


Isn't there a jumper on the motherboard that can be used to disable
the on board card? Not all motherboards had one but it is worth a check
anyway, assuming you have not done so all ready.


I was not aware of the possibility - thanks


The PE300 has no documented jumpers on the mother board effecting the VGA. 
Am I correct in my understanding that this is a FreeBSD issue that makes 
Xorg a 'victim'?

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Check the motherboard bios setup to disable the on motherboard vga port.



Thanks. The [latest] BIOS has one VGA option:

   Video DAC Snoop Controls how VGA and graphics devices on the PCI or AGP
   bus respond to palette register accesses.

* On  - forces VGA and graphics devices to snoop VGA palette register
accesses and forward them to the ISA bus.
* Off - (the default) forces VGA and graphics devices to respond
positively to palette register accesses.

There is no hardware relief for the Dell PE300 that does not involve 
modifying the mother, assuming that is possible.


I have [mostly] covered the fact that I have 1152x864 as the screen 
resolution by making things smaller in KDE and setting fonts in xterm. This 
system was made less useful by upgrading to FreeBSD 8. I am trying to find 
out if support for multiple VGA cards is in the works and what needs to 
change for that to happen.


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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, d...@safeport.com wrote:


Thanks. The [latest] BIOS has one VGA option:

  Video DAC Snoop Controls how VGA and graphics devices on the PCI or AGP
  bus respond to palette register accesses.

   * On  - forces VGA and graphics devices to snoop VGA palette register
   accesses and forward them to the ISA bus.
   * Off - (the default) forces VGA and graphics devices to respond
   positively to palette register accesses.


Is there a "Init Graphics Card First" that can be set to AGP/PCI?  That 
would let the preferred card be seen first.  Still only one card.  I 
don't know what's needed for multi-card xorg support on FreeBSD, but I 
suspect it won't happen soon.

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Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread doug

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Warren Block wrote:


On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, d...@safeport.com wrote:


Thanks. The [latest] BIOS has one VGA option:

  Video DAC Snoop Controls how VGA and graphics devices on the PCI or AGP
  bus respond to palette register accesses.

   * On  - forces VGA and graphics devices to snoop VGA palette register
   accesses and forward them to the ISA bus.
   * Off - (the default) forces VGA and graphics devices to respond
   positively to palette register accesses.


Is there a "Init Graphics Card First" that can be set to AGP/PCI?  That would 
let the preferred card be seen first.  Still only one card.  I don't know 
what's needed for multi-card xorg support on FreeBSD, but I suspect it won't 
happen soon.


No such option. I would go back to 7.3 except I did not save various packages 
and it would take several months to compile what I have :) thanks for the 
thought.





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