Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Valentin Bud
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jerry McAllister  wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:17:44PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote:
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> >
> > --
> > From: "Redd Vinylene" 
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:55 AM
> > To: "questions" 
> > Subject: Re: a "strange" question about OSs
> >
> > >On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Valentin Bud
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hello Community,
> > >>
> > >> The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is
> > >>suitable from
> > >>the following list
> > >>to replace FBSD:
> > >>
> > >>  - OpenSUSE 10.3
> > >>  - Debian 4.0
> > >>  - CentOS 5
> > >>
> > >>The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
> > >>economical crisis to
> > >>save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install
> > >>our OS
> > >>but the one
> > >>they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides
> > >>the above
> > >>mentioned.
> > >>
> > >>I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used
> > >>in
> > >>production. I like it and
> > >>learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve
> > >>with the
> > >>new OS which I'm not afraid
> > >>of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
> > >>similarities with FBSD.
> > >>
> > >>thank you,
> > >>v
>
> This confuses me a little.
> Wouldn't FreeBSD be the more economical route?
>
> I can't imagine saving money moving from FreeBSD to
> one of those listed.  FreeBSD is free and seems to
> take less administration hours than those others.
> Certainly you do not gain anything in quality or
> reliability.
>
> Oh, I see in re-reading that it is not your company, but
> your potential new service provider that wants to force
> you to switch OS.   Well, there is more than one way to
> gain economy.   Switching to something inferior - of poorer
> service level is not a gain in economy.
>
> So, maybe you should try suggesting FreeBSD to that provider.
> All they need to do is insert the install CD in to the machine
> anyway.You can do the rest.


That's what i thought. I will try to speak with them about this option.

thank you,
v


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> jerry
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> > >>
> > >I doubt you'll find anything suitable after getting accustomed to
> > >FreeBSD.
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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:17:44PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote:

> 
> --
> From: "Redd Vinylene" 
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:55 AM
> To: "questions" 
> Subject: Re: a "strange" question about OSs
> 
> >On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Valentin Bud 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hello Community,
> >>
> >> The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is 
> >>suitable from
> >>the following list
> >>to replace FBSD:
> >>
> >>  - OpenSUSE 10.3
> >>  - Debian 4.0
> >>  - CentOS 5
> >>
> >>The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
> >>economical crisis to
> >>save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install 
> >>our OS
> >>but the one
> >>they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides 
> >>the above
> >>mentioned.
> >>
> >>I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used 
> >>in
> >>production. I like it and
> >>learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve 
> >>with the
> >>new OS which I'm not afraid
> >>of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
> >>similarities with FBSD.
> >>
> >>thank you,
> >>v

This confuses me a little.
Wouldn't FreeBSD be the more economical route?

I can't imagine saving money moving from FreeBSD to
one of those listed.  FreeBSD is free and seems to 
take less administration hours than those others.
Certainly you do not gain anything in quality or 
reliability.

Oh, I see in re-reading that it is not your company, but
your potential new service provider that wants to force 
you to switch OS.   Well, there is more than one way to
gain economy.   Switching to something inferior - of poorer
service level is not a gain in economy.

So, maybe you should try suggesting FreeBSD to that provider.
All they need to do is insert the install CD in to the machine
anyway.You can do the rest.

jerry


> >>
> >>
> >I doubt you'll find anything suitable after getting accustomed to 
> >FreeBSD.
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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Saifi Khan
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Valentin Bud  wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Saifi Khan  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Valentin Bud 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Community,
>> >
>> >  The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is suitable
>> > from
>> > the following list
>> > to replace FBSD:
>> >
>> >   - OpenSUSE 10.3
>> >   - Debian 4.0
>> >   - CentOS 5
>> >
>> > The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
>> > economical crisis to
>> > save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install our
>> > OS
>> > but the one
>> > they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides the
>> > above
>> > mentioned.
>> >
>> > I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used in
>> > production. I like it and
>> > learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve with
>> > the
>> > new OS which I'm not afraid
>> > of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
>> > similarities with FBSD.
>> >
>> > thank you,
>> > v
>>
>> What are the services you are currently using on FreeBSD ?
>>
>>
>> --
>> thanks
>> Saifi.
>
> A web server basically: MySQL, Apache, php plus some pdf manipulation with
> ghostscript and imagemagick. The new server will be on 64 bits if this is a
> concern regarding the OSs i have to choose from.
>
> thanks,
> v
>

if you have to use Linux,  i'd suggest you look at Gentoo Linux 2008.0r2 .
It's a very configurable and fast distribution and works very well on AMD64X2.

The emerge/portage system is akin to ports/makefile combo in FreeBSD.
The fact that i've to deal with Python for most of the emerge tools is
an annoyance.
Almost all the packages are installed from the source code.

I've myself been a FreeBSD user for quite sometime and Gentoo Linux is
what i've found
quite impressive among the Linux distributions.

It may come as a surprise, but i've found the PHP runtime to start
faster on Gentoo Linux
than on FreeBSD on the same hardware. I also had to do a bit of
reordering of the extensions
to avoid crashes. I still donot know why that problem does not occur
on my Gentoo Linux installation.

If you have to go to Linux and choose to use Gentoo Linux, i'll be
happy to offer assistance as a friend
with setup and troubleshooting. You are also welcome to look up the
settings for Gentoo Linux at
http://www.twincling.org/node/237


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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Reko Turja


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From: "Redd Vinylene" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:55 AM
To: "questions" 
Subject: Re: a "strange" question about OSs

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Valentin Bud 
wrote:



Hello Community,

 The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is 
suitable from

the following list
to replace FBSD:

  - OpenSUSE 10.3
  - Debian 4.0
  - CentOS 5

The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
economical crisis to
save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install 
our OS

but the one
they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides 
the above

mentioned.

I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used 
in

production. I like it and
learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve 
with the

new OS which I'm not afraid
of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
similarities with FBSD.

thank you,
v


I doubt you'll find anything suitable after getting accustomed to 
FreeBSD.


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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Reko Turja
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Valentin Bud 
wrote:



Hello Community,

 The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is 
suitable from

the following list
to replace FBSD:


Depenguinate the host? 
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html


-Reko 


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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Saifi Khan
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Valentin Bud  wrote:
> Hello Community,
>
>  The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is suitable from
> the following list
> to replace FBSD:
>
>   - OpenSUSE 10.3
>   - Debian 4.0
>   - CentOS 5
>
> The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
> economical crisis to
> save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install our OS
> but the one
> they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides the above
> mentioned.
>
> I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used in
> production. I like it and
> learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve with the
> new OS which I'm not afraid
> of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
> similarities with FBSD.
>
> thank you,
> v

What are the services you are currently using on FreeBSD ?


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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Redd Vinylene  wrote:
>>  The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is suitable from
>> the following list
>> to replace FBSD:
>>
>>   - OpenSUSE 10.3
>>   - Debian 4.0
>>   - CentOS 5
> 
> I doubt you'll find anything suitable after getting accustomed to FreeBSD.

True. The closest would be debian IMO but still a learning curve will
be there. But, having spent time with FreeBSD, you should find it
easier to learn than coming afresh :)

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Re: a "strange" question about OSs

2009-02-23 Thread Redd Vinylene
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Valentin Bud wrote:

> Hello Community,
>
>  The following question may sound very ackward but was OS is suitable from
> the following list
> to replace FBSD:
>
>   - OpenSUSE 10.3
>   - Debian 4.0
>   - CentOS 5
>
> The company i work for wants to change the provider because of the
> economical crisis to
> save some money. The actual provider gave us the chance to install our OS
> but the one
> they chose as a replacement doesn't give any other choice besides the above
> mentioned.
>
> I work for 2 years in IT and FBSD is the only OS i have ever used in
> production. I like it and
> learned it a little bit. It is going to be a steep learning curve with the
> new OS which I'm not afraid
> of but i would like to chose a suitable OS and one that has some
> similarities with FBSD.
>
> thank you,
> v
>
>
I doubt you'll find anything suitable after getting accustomed to FreeBSD.

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