about vbox and freebsd
08/20/2009 11:59 PM Hello Duncan Hutty, I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable about freebsd. I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the system, and I'd like to. My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that CPU doesn't support long mode Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit system, but I don't think that's the case : j...@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more. Have you seen or heard of this before? Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself. Thanks for any help you might be able to give. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:38 PM My problem seems to be that CPU doesn't support long mode Is that it? Can't get there from here? -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:20 PM Hi, I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI disabled but that seems not to make any difference. Have you heard of this problem before? Any help you might give appreciated. Thanks. I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter as well. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: about vbox and freebsd
On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: > My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that > > CPU doesn't support long mode Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 One notable quote is: ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit host. HTH -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: about vbox and freebsd
Mak Kolybabi wrote: > On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: >> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that >> >> CPU doesn't support long mode > > Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others > have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I > have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very > similar issue is here: > > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 > > One notable quote is: > > ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you > will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run > a 64 bit host. > > HTH [snip] I think this CPU does support hardware virtualization. The other situation which might produce this is if the ubuntu 9.0.4 install itself is 32 bit, and the Virtualbox package will then be 32 bit as well. I haven't looked at Ubuntu in quite some time, as I found it annoying, but IIRC there are two different CD downloads - one for the 32bit version and one for the 64 bit version. This is what I seem to remember but it may also have changed since I last played with it. If you weren't paying attention and installed the 32 bit version it might very well explain the error. If such a thing is the case you have two choices. Either install the i386 32 bit version of FreeBSD as the guest instead of the 64 bit amd64 or reinstall Ubuntu with the 64 bit version. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: about vbox and freebsd
Mak Kolybabi wrote: On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that CPU doesn't support long mode Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 One notable quote is: ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit host. This CPU does support hardware virtualization as can be seen by the svm flag in the output of cpuinfo. It may be obvious but... Did you install the 64bit version of Ubuntu? uname -m will tell you. -- Duncan Hutty ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
[Fwd: about vbox and freebsd]
I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the Mak's response here : Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 One notable quote is: ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit host. HTH So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box. I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed. Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to configure all that stuff by hand? Thanks for your help. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand --- Begin Message --- 08/20/2009 11:59 PM Hello Duncan Hutty, I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable about freebsd. I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the system, and I'd like to. My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that CPU doesn't support long mode Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit system, but I don't think that's the case : j...@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more. Have you seen or heard of this before? Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself. Thanks for any help you might be able to give. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:38 PM My problem seems to be that CPU doesn't support long mode Is that it? Can't get there from here? -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:20 PM Hi, I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI disabled but that seems not to make any difference. Have you heard of this problem before? Any help you might give appreciated. Thanks. I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter as well. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: [Fwd: about vbox and freebsd]
John Francis Lee wrote: > I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been > instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the > Mak's response here : > > > Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others > have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I > have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very > similar issue is here: > >http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 > > One notable quote is: > >...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you > will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run > a 64 bit host. > > HTH > Something sounds strange here. The name for Intel's hardware virtualization feature is VT-I, or sometimes VT-x, while AMD's name for the same thing is AMD-V. Your processor supports AMD-V and VirtualBox supports both, at least in the version 3.0.4 that I am running. Alas, my processor is Intel and if there actually is a problem of VirtualBox not being 64 bit capable with AMD-V I cannot test. Since your host system is Ubuntu I am also wondering if the problem could involve their packaging of the product, e.g., an older version of VirtualBox such as 2.x or some such. Also wonder if it needs to be manually turned on in BIOS. Also I believe the 64 bit support is relatively new so you might want to check which version of VirtualBox it became included as a new feature and compare that against the version you have. Since this is a FreeBSD list I'm just going to say it could be an Ubuntu problem, and leave it at that. > So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box. > > I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and > apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed. > > Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to > configure all that stuff by hand? Don't know. But the default VirtualBox networking is NAT, with it supplying DHCP services to the client. You may need to enter a line in your (FreeBSD) /etc/rc.conf similar to: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" where rl0 would be whatever is your network interface. When it boots (the FreeBSD guest) it should be assigned an IP something like 10.0.2.15 and a default gateway something like 10.0.2.2. These can vary. Also be aware that while you can connect outbound and receive return traffic you will be unable to initiate inbound connections. If you require this ability you will need to manually set up VirtualBox in bridge mode, which also requires some non-trivial config changes to your host OS. Like I said, something just sounds fishy to me because on the VirtualBox 3.0.4 that I run it clearly supports both Intel and AMD hardware virtualization. Since I don't have the AMD processor to try it myself I can't confirm. At any rate, if the 32 bit FreeBSD runs and satisfies your needs why keep fiddling. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"