Apology
Sorry group I just realized I've been sending HTML emails to the group Plain text now set. Stupid outlook Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
apology
I apologize for the email concerning freeBSD screwing me out of 50 bucks at LISA/2003. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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I must take this opportunity to publicly apologize for posting profanity to the list. Please know that I did not intend any offence, save to the OP of the thread. I will clean it up, or keep it private. I really like this list, and I really don't like whining. I am sorry. -- Joshua You're dead, Jim. -- McCoy, "Amok Time", stardate 3372.7 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Apology
I am sorry for the recent slew of emails that hit the list - I was having trouble sending them and as you can see I hit send a few more times than I should have. Again, my apologies. Paul D. Lathrop To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Apology
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:10:13 -0500, "Gary Hartl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry group I just realized I've been sending HTML emails to the > group. Plain text now set. > > Stupid Outlook. It's not a *huge* deal, but _thanks_ for fixing that :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: apology
> > I apologize for the email concerning freeBSD > screwing me out of 50 bucks at LISA/2003. FreeBSD itself does not sell anything. In fact, everything from FreeBSD is free - hence the name - no credit card required or accepted at all. There are some companies that sell such things as CD installation sets of FreeBSD and T-shirts and books, etc. But these are separate companies and are not part of or related to FreeBSD.org, (though some of them donate some funds to the FreeBSD project). If you bought something from one of these companies, then you will need to contact that place for any problems with billing. jerry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: apology
> > I must take this opportunity to publicly apologize for posting > profanity to the list. Please know that I did not intend any offence, > save to the OP of the thread. I will clean it up, or keep it private. > I really like this list, and I really don't like whining. I am sorry. Apology accepted. It takes a big person to do so. jerry > > -- > Joshua > > You're dead, Jim. > -- McCoy, "Amok Time", stardate 3372.7 > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
Ok, Two things. One is I should not have mouthed off such a stupid email. I apologise. Secondly, adduser sucks. Let's end this thread, blame it on me. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> (12.29.2002 @ 1340 PST): Cliff Sarginson said, in 0.4K: << > Ok, > Two things. > One is I should not have mouthed off such a stupid email. I apologise. > Secondly, adduser sucks. > Let's end this thread, blame it on me. >> end of "Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology" from Cliff Sarginson << The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as "Answers to the following questions will be used as rules for future user additions:" Or something that makes more sense. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org << [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+ECS2o8KM2ULHQ/0RAtm4AJ9jpAj2aaZ87E3exsNt4KyCxwomIQCbBmtJ VpFjASqYjg+7HaVqVbzzLIA= =oNQM -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800 Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone > who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions > aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as "Answers to the > following questions will be used as rules for future user additions:" Or > something that makes more sense. I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that the "Usernames must match regular expression: " prompt was asking for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user to make. --snip-- desktop># adduser /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. Check /etc/shells Check /etc/master.passwd Check /etc/group Usernames must match regular expression: [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: --snip-- Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root login, and use it!. Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800 > Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone > > who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions > > aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as "Answers to the > > following questions will be used as rules for future user additions:" Or > > something that makes more sense. > > I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that > the "Usernames must match regular expression: " prompt was asking > for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf > file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. > This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user > to make. > > --snip-- > desktop># adduser > /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory > Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. > > Check /etc/shells > Check /etc/master.passwd > Check /etc/group > Usernames must match regular expression: > [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: > --snip-- > > Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should > probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install > configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX > one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root > login, and use it!. > > Regards, > > Stephen Hilton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > When you see a short coming like this, is there not some way to get it put into the software and/or FreeBSD handbook? I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had a couple of more words of explanation added, would eliminate a great deal of confusion. Where do you go with suggestions for changes? Joe Gwozdecki Houston, Texas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:49:38AM -0600, Joe Gwozdecki wrote: > > Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should > > probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install > > configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX > > one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root > > login, and use it!. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stephen Hilton > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > When you see a short coming like this, is there > not some way to get it put into the software and/or > FreeBSD handbook? > > I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had > a couple of more words of explanation added, > would eliminate a great deal of confusion. > > Where do you go with suggestions for changes? Check out http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html It gives lots of hints for submitting new docs, or updates to existing ones. > > Joe Gwozdecki > Houston, Texas > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> (12.30.2002 @ 0649 PST): Joe Gwozdecki said, in 1.9K: << > When you see a short coming like this, is there > not some way to get it put into the software and/or > FreeBSD handbook? > > I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had > a couple of more words of explanation added, > would eliminate a great deal of confusion. > > Where do you go with suggestions for changes? >> end of "Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology" from Joe Gwozdecki << That's what send-pr(1) and the team of committers are there for ::) If you see something you'd like changed, send a PR about it. Better yet, make a patch and send-pr that. It's not nearly as daunting as it may seem. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org << [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE+ESiLo8KM2ULHQ/0RAsTaAJ9KiSbTNxA8rbYUB/f5oGrALIMwQQCXQguk ovcBf6yQU87Drp9Hz71A2w== =+iHJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
t should be as easy as pie to add a user. Why the hell does FreeBSD go on and on shooting itself in the foot ? RTFM has become a bad joke. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re[2]: adduser .. revisited, an apology
Dear/Beste Cliff, Sunday, December 29, 2002, 10:40:46 PM, you wrote: > Ok, > Two things. > One is I should not have mouthed off such a stupid email. I apologise. It happens to the best of us. > Secondly, adduser sucks. That's your opinion and that's ok. I for one think that it is great. > Let's end this thread, blame it on me. ok -- Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re[2]: adduser .. revisited, an apology
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Alex wrote: > > Secondly, adduser sucks. > > That's your opinion and that's ok. I for one think that it is great. > I used adduser for some accounts and pw for others, me I love the un*x credo that there is always another way to do something. fuz To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
Adding a user should not be rocket science, If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh" sucks big time, we may avoid a lot of problems. If anyone can prove to me that "csh" is superior in any respect to bash, then please tell me. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:16:31 +0100 Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adding a user should not be rocket science, It isn't. > If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh" sucks big > time, we may avoid a lot of problems. You can always use /bin/sh, and yes, it does history (set -o emacs) > If anyone can prove to me that "csh" is superior in any respect to > bash, then please tell me. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 841916 Dec 31 15:16 /bin/tcsh -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036396 Nov 17 13:30 /usr/local/bin/bash tcsh is good enough for interactive use (others like zsh as well), and many people have grown to hate bash for one very simple reason. In another attempt at 'embrace and extend', GNU added some features to plain sh that remained functional even when invoked as /bin/sh. That lead to broken scripts that only ran on GNU/Linux systems. Now I feel fad for feeding a troll, let this thread die already :) Happy new year. -- Miguel Mendez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk Of course it runs NetBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 18:30, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:16:31 +0100 > Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Adding a user should not be rocket science, > > It isn't. > > > If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh" sucks big > > time, we may avoid a lot of problems. > > You can always use /bin/sh, and yes, it does history (set -o emacs) > > > If anyone can prove to me that "csh" is superior in any respect to > > bash, then please tell me. > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 841916 Dec 31 15:16 /bin/tcsh > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036396 Nov 17 13:30 /usr/local/bin/bash > > tcsh is good enough for interactive use (others like zsh as well), and > many people have grown to hate bash for one very simple reason. In > another attempt at 'embrace and extend', GNU added some features to > plain sh that remained functional even when invoked as /bin/sh. That > lead to broken scripts that only ran on GNU/Linux systems. > > Now I feel fad for feeding a troll, let this thread die already :) Even the original poster has requested (two days ago) that this thread be killed off. Why is questions still being cc'd on this? Regards, Stacey > > Happy new year. -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
