Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-09-03 Thread Mel
On Monday 03 September 2007 18:58:07 Koen de Wijs wrote:
> Mel schreef:
> > On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:
> >> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
> >> fine but one thing I can't get working.
> >> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
> >> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is
> >> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon
> >> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
> >> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;
> >
> > Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.
> >
> >> I also added the regular user to the group operators.
> >
> > You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read
> > access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users.
> >
> >> What do I need to do to get it working?
> >
> > portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with
> > a major side-note:
> > ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes
> > the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that
> > your users cannot mount usb-sticks.
> > To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and
> > usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though
> > and instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell.
>
> I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried
> am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a
> lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will
> be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work?
> http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/
> This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add an
> extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?

That's a very interesting article and explains why my unmounter is never 
called. And yes, it is the proper way. devd (and usbd specifically for usb 
devices) has been created to be able to propagate kernel hardware events to 
user land. It follows unix principles that root is owner of the machine and 
it's resources and decides what to do with it. Using these events one can 
call simple scripts or very complex programs.

As for KDE, also look at dcop. For instance:
dcop --all-users --all-sessions knotify default notify notify Me \
"I just sent you guys a notification. I could use it to tell you that the USB 
stick has been mounted." nosound nofile 2 0

-- 
Mel

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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-09-03 Thread Danielisz Laszlo
This is how my rc.conf appears

$ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep usb
usbd_enable="YES"


I will try adding those line, thank you!


- Original Message 
From: Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Koen de Wijs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2007 9:39:48 PM
Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

Do you have usbd="YES" in your rc.conf file?
USB stick should be detected as ugen0. Read the dmesg before and after 
you attach the USB-drive.

Add perm /dev/ugen0 0666 into your devfs.conf
i  /dev/ugen0   /usr/home/Username/mnt/usbstick  msdosfs rw, noauto  
0   0  into you fstab file
I see no reason that the stick is not mounted automatically.
You already have HAL on.



Koen de Wijs wrote:
> Mel schreef:
>> On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
>>> fine but one thing I can't get working.
>>> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
>>> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If 
>>> KDE is
>>> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a 
>>> icon
>>> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
>>> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;
>>> 
>>
>> Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.
>>
>>  
>>> I also added the regular user to the group operators.
>>> 
>>
>> You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get 
>> read access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup 
>> users.
>>
>>  
>>> What do I need to do to get it working?
>>> 
>>
>> portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, 
>> with a major side-note:
>> ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount 
>> changes the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's 
>> likely that your users cannot mount usb-sticks.
>> To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and 
>> usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users 
>> though and instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to 
>> hell.
>>
>>   
>
>
>
> I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried 
> am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a 
> lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I 
> will be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should 
> work?
> http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/
> This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add 
> an extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?
>
> Koen
>
>
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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-09-03 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Do you have usbd="YES" in your rc.conf file?
USB stick should be detected as ugen0. Read the dmesg before and after 
you attach the USB-drive.


Add perm /dev/ugen0 0666 into your devfs.conf
i  /dev/ugen0   /usr/home/Username/mnt/usbstick  msdosfs rw, noauto  
0   0  into you fstab file

I see no reason that the stick is not mounted automatically.
You already have HAL on.



Koen de Wijs wrote:

Mel schreef:

On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:

 

This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
fine but one thing I can't get working.
Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If 
KDE is
started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a 
icon

on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;



Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.

 

I also added the regular user to the group operators.



You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get 
read access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup 
users.


 

What do I need to do to get it working?



portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, 
with a major side-note:
ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount 
changes the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's 
likely that your users cannot mount usb-sticks.
To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and 
usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users 
though and instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to 
hell.


  




I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried 
am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a 
lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I 
will be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should 
work?

http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/
This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add 
an extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?


Koen


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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-09-03 Thread Danielisz Laszlo
In my case mounting a USB stick simply works with mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 
/mnt/usb

- Original Message 
From: Koen de Wijs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2007 7:58:07 PM
Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

Mel schreef:
> On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:
>
>   
>> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
>> fine but one thing I can't get working.
>> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
>> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is
>> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon
>> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
>> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;
>> 
>
> Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.
>
>   
>> I also added the regular user to the group operators.
>> 
>
> You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read 
> access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users.
>
>   
>> What do I need to do to get it working?
>> 
>
> portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with a 
> major side-note:
> ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes the 
> owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that your users 
> cannot mount usb-sticks.
> To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and 
> usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though and 
> instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell.
>
>   



I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried 
am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a 
lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will 
be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work?
http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/
This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add an 
extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?

Koen


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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-09-03 Thread Koen de Wijs

Mel schreef:

On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:

  

This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
fine but one thing I can't get working.
Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is
started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon
on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;



Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.

  

I also added the regular user to the group operators.



You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read 
access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users.


  

What do I need to do to get it working?



portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with a 
major side-note:
ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes the 
owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that your users 
cannot mount usb-sticks.
To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and 
usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though and 
instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell.


  




I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried 
am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a 
lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will 
be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work?

http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/
This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add an 
extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?


Koen


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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-08-31 Thread Andriy Babiy
> Edit devfs.conf and fstab files
> With permissions and links.
>
> Koen de Wijs wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works 
>> fine but one thing I can't get working.
>> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing 
>> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE 
>> is started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a 
>> icon on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work 
>> for cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;
>>
>> I saw auto-mounting working on Linux Mandriva and PCBSD but how do I 
>> get it working with FreeBSD KDE and XFCE4?
>> I installed hal, dbus and policykit and added these lines to rc.conf:
>>
>> dbus_enable="YES"
>> hald_enable="YES"
>> polkitd_enable="YES"
>>
>> I also added the regular user to the group operators.
>>
>> What do I need to do to get it working?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Koen de Wijs

You might want to have a look at:
/usr/ports/sysutils/k3b/pkg-message
This file contains a detailed step-by-step instruction
on how to enable mounting for non-privileged users.

Also, the following port might be of interest to you:
/usr/ports/sysutils/am-utils

Andriy
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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-08-31 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Edit devfs.conf and fstab files
With permissions and links.

Koen de Wijs wrote:

Hello,

This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works 
fine but one thing I can't get working.
Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing 
that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE 
is started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a 
icon on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work 
for cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;


I saw auto-mounting working on Linux Mandriva and PCBSD but how do I 
get it working with FreeBSD KDE and XFCE4?

I installed hal, dbus and policykit and added these lines to rc.conf:

dbus_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"

I also added the regular user to the group operators.

What do I need to do to get it working?

Thanks!

Koen de Wijs



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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-08-31 Thread Mel
On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:

> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
> fine but one thing I can't get working.
> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is
> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon
> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;

Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.

> I also added the regular user to the group operators.

You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read 
access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users.

> What do I need to do to get it working?

portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with a 
major side-note:
ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes the 
owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that your users 
cannot mount usb-sticks.
To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and 
usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though and 
instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell.

-- 
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Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-08-31 Thread Bahman M.
> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works
> fine but one thing I can't get working.
> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing
> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is
> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon
> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for
> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;
>
> I saw auto-mounting working on Linux Mandriva and PCBSD but how do I get
> it working with FreeBSD KDE and XFCE4?
> I installed hal, dbus and policykit and added these lines to rc.conf:
>
> dbus_enable="YES"
> hald_enable="YES"
> polkitd_enable="YES"
>
> I also added the regular user to the group operators.
>
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT

Bahman
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auto mount xfce4 and kde

2007-08-31 Thread Koen de Wijs

Hello,

This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works 
fine but one thing I can't get working.
Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing 
that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is 
started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon 
on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for 
cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;


I saw auto-mounting working on Linux Mandriva and PCBSD but how do I get 
it working with FreeBSD KDE and XFCE4?

I installed hal, dbus and policykit and added these lines to rc.conf:

dbus_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"

I also added the regular user to the group operators.

What do I need to do to get it working?

Thanks!

Koen de Wijs



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