burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-27 Thread Ray Marshall
Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file?  I have a 
new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same 
thing.  Thanks.
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-27 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
download burnatonce @ ...
 - http://www.burnatonce.com/
install it, click on 'load new image' and
after you did load the image (*.iso)
click on 'write' ...
Ray Marshall schrieb:
Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file?  I have a 
new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same 
thing.  Thanks.
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-27 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:30:50 -0600 Ray Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file?  I have a 
new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same 
thing.  Thanks.

 Sonic RecordNow! apparently does not recognize .iso files as image files,
so it cannot produce a valid, bootable disk.  I ran into this two or three
weeks ago.  I already had a 5.2.1 system installed on the same machine, so
I was able to copy the image file from the Windows XP file system into a
FreeBSD UFS file system.  From there I used burncd to produce a bootable disk.
One problem I ran into, however, was that the fixate step always encountered
some error with the two large .iso files when burning a CD-R, although it
worked fine with the minimal installation image file.  Burning to a CD-RW
worked properly.  I still don't know why burning a large image to a CD-R was
a problem when burning it to a CD-RW was not a problem.
 In short, Sonic RecordNow! is useless for ISO image files, but you may
find some workaround.  There are also other disk-burning packages around for
Windows XP, but that would mean spending more money on a package you might only
use once. :-]


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Scott Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:30:50 -0600 Ray Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file?  I have 
 a new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the 
 same thing.  Thanks.
 
  Sonic RecordNow! apparently does not recognize .iso files as image files,
 so it cannot produce a valid, bootable disk.  I ran into this two or three
 weeks ago.  I already had a 5.2.1 system installed on the same machine, so
 I was able to copy the image file from the Windows XP file system into a
 FreeBSD UFS file system.  From there I used burncd to produce a bootable disk.
 One problem I ran into, however, was that the fixate step always encountered
 some error with the two large .iso files when burning a CD-R, although it
 worked fine with the minimal installation image file.  Burning to a CD-RW
 worked properly.  I still don't know why burning a large image to a CD-R was
 a problem when burning it to a CD-RW was not a problem.
  In short, Sonic RecordNow! is useless for ISO image files, but you may
 find some workaround.  There are also other disk-burning packages around for
 Windows XP, but that would mean spending more money on a package you might 
 only
 use once. :-]

The product specs for RecordNow claim that it has full support for ISO
file images.  You probably need to trick it in some way; maybe by
changing the file extension or some such silliness.  
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-07 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:31:37 -0600 (CST), Scott Bennett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu Jan  6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
   bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
  
On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
   Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
   button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
   exact copy of
  
  On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
  for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
  alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
  the misdirection.
  
   Oh.  That was because, if one places the cursor over the green
  button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, Click
  here to make this CD/DVD bootable.  And, as noted in a different
  posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for
  choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the
  choices) to burn in making the bootable disk.
 
 Just an additional note for clarity:   If I understand - and I don't
 have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want
 to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images.
 
 In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local
 machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a
 bootable image.   It needs merely to be written raw to the media.
 
 When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is
 asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers
 to the file to make it bootable.   Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has
 that stuff in it, you don't want it done again.  So, choose the options
 that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions.
 
 No, no.  This is wrong.  You missed the explanation I posted regarding
 Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker.  The green
 button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to
 burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type
 of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it
 to display *all* files in the chosen directory.

Obviously, this Sonic RecordNow? software isn't working well for you.
Have you considered any of the alternatives that burn isos without
problems; Nero, Alcohol, Fireburner ?

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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-07 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:36:30 -0600 Joshua Lokken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:31:37 -0600 (CST), Scott Bennett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu Jan  6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
   bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
  
On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
   Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
   button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
   exact copy of
  
  On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
  for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
  alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
  the misdirection.
  
   Oh.  That was because, if one places the cursor over the green
  button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, Click
  here to make this CD/DVD bootable.  And, as noted in a different
  posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for
  choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the
  choices) to burn in making the bootable disk.
 
 Just an additional note for clarity:   If I understand - and I don't
 have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want
 to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images.
 
 In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local
 machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a
 bootable image.   It needs merely to be written raw to the media.
 
 When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is
 asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers
 to the file to make it bootable.   Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has
 that stuff in it, you don't want it done again.  So, choose the options
 that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions.
 
 No, no.  This is wrong.  You missed the explanation I posted regarding
 Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker.  The green
 button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to
 burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type
 of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it
 to display *all* files in the chosen directory.

Obviously, this Sonic RecordNow? software isn't working well for you.
Have you considered any of the alternatives that burn isos without
problems; Nero, Alcohol, Fireburner ?

 As I already explained here on this list, the key to getting burncd to
work right was to copy the image file from the Windows XP partition into a
FreeBSD partition to use as input to burncd.  That worked fine for CD-RWs,
though not as well for CD-Rs.  The earlier failure of burncd to produce a
bootable CD-R was apparently caused somehow by having burncd read directly
from a Windows XP partition mounted onto /mnt.
 That's it for the re-explanations, folks.  Please don't post followups
in this thread if you haven't been following it.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-07 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Thu Jan  6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
   On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
  bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
  
   On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
  Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
  button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
  exact copy of
 
 On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
 for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
 alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
 the misdirection.
 
  Oh.  That was because, if one places the cursor over the green
 button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, Click
 here to make this CD/DVD bootable.  And, as noted in a different
 posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for
 choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the
 choices) to burn in making the bootable disk.

Just an additional note for clarity:   If I understand - and I don't
have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want
to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images.   

In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local 
machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a 
bootable image.   It needs merely to be written raw to the media.   

When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is
asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers
to the file to make it bootable.   Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has 
that stuff in it, you don't want it done again.  So, choose the options
that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions.

 No, no.  This is wrong.  You missed the explanation I posted regarding
Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker.  The green
button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to
burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type
of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it
to display *all* files in the chosen directory.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-06 Thread Scott Bennett
 Many thanks go to Dave Horsfall [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote the
winning tip on Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:14:24 +1100 (EST):

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote:

 As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path
 correctly:-):
 
  mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt

[...]

Try copying the file to a local BSD file-system; the NTFS semantics could 
be getting in the way.  Also try write-once media, if you can, as I've 
occasionally had difficulties with rewriteable media.

 This appears to have been the ticket.  I tried it first with the bootonly
image, which made a bootable CD-RW.  After testing its bootability, I then
tried it with the disc1 image, which also worked and did boot okay.  So I now
have the disks I need as CD-RWs.
 However, I would prefer to have them as CD-Rs, but ran into a little
problem.  The bootonly image went onto a CD-R just fine, and the CD-R did
boot right.  However, at the very end of burning the disc1 image to a CD-R,
I got the following message.

burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error

I tried it again in case it were a fluke, but got the same result.  The CD-R
appears to boot okay, but I don't know whether the entire content of the CD-R
is intact.  Would I run into problems with files physically near the end of
the written part of the CD-R?  The disc2 image did the same thing.  If someone
can explain why both images went onto CD-RWs just fine, but got the error
during fixation on CD-Rs, I'd like to see it.
 Anyway, thanks to all who responded to my plea for help.  I can now move
forward another inch or two toward (I hope) a usable FreeBSD system.  It just
kills me to have this Inspiron XPS going mostly to waste so far, but maybe 5.3
will do what 5.2.1 couldn't. :-}


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-06 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
 bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
 
  On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
 Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
 button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
 exact copy of

On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
the misdirection.

 Oh.  That was because, if one places the cursor over the green
button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, Click
here to make this CD/DVD bootable.  And, as noted in a different
posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for
choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the
choices) to burn in making the bootable disk.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
   On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
  bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
  
   On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
  Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
  button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
  exact copy of
 
 On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
 for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
 alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
 the misdirection.
 
  Oh.  That was because, if one places the cursor over the green
 button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, Click
 here to make this CD/DVD bootable.  And, as noted in a different
 posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for
 choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the
 choices) to burn in making the bootable disk.

Just an additional note for clarity:   If I understand - and I don't
have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want
to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images.   

In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local 
machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a 
bootable image.   It needs merely to be written raw to the media.   

When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is
asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers
to the file to make it bootable.   Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has 
that stuff in it, you don't want it done again.  So, choose the options
that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions.

jerry

 
 
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-05 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Scott Bennett thusly...
 
  I've downloaded the following ISO image files:
  
 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
  
  I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP
  Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said
  system, but did not get bootable CDs either way.
 
 First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM
 ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected Data Disc and
 chose the ISO image.  Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image
 /file/ on the CD.
 
 After more poking around in the software interface, Burn Image or
 some such option was revealed under the heading of Data Disc or
 some such.  And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO
 image on CD to boot with.
 
  Thanks for the suggestion.  I've now gone back and found the
 little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD.  I
 then tried it with each of the first two files noted above.  The CDs
 written via the green button do get a little farther than before.
 In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before
 deciding to boot from the hard drive after all.  The green button
 CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left
 corner of the screen that says, Missing operating system, and then
 hang.

This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a bootable
CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.  The ISO files
you downloaded are disc images that are already bootable.  If you burn
a faithful reproduction of the image onto a CD, the CD will be
bootable.  The way to do that is to burn the image to disc as an
image, not as a file.  Most CD burning software have an option like
burn image to disc.  For example, Nero Burning ROM SE has this
functionality in the Recorder menu under Burn Image  I haven't
ever used Sonic RecordNow! so I don't know where the option is (or
even if it has one, though Parv's comments above would suggest that it
does).  If it doesn't, you are going to need to use some other
software because burning the image to disc is the only way you will
get the outcome you want.

-- 
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-05 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Scott Bennett thusly...
 
  I've downloaded the following ISO image files:
  
5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
  
  I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP
  Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said
  system, but did not get bootable CDs either way.
 
 First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM
 ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected Data Disc and
 chose the ISO image.  Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image
 /file/ on the CD.
 
 After more poking around in the software interface, Burn Image or
 some such option was revealed under the heading of Data Disc or
 some such.  And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO
 image on CD to boot with.
 
  Thanks for the suggestion.  I've now gone back and found the
 little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD.  I
 then tried it with each of the first two files noted above.  The CDs
 written via the green button do get a little farther than before.
 In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before
 deciding to boot from the hard drive after all.  The green button
 CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left
 corner of the screen that says, Missing operating system, and then
 hang.

This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a bootable
CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.  The ISO files

 On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green button
is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an exact copy of
an existing CD, of course).  When the green button is used, one can then
use a small file browser panel to select an image file to be burned.  The
files displayed by default are of the following suffixes/types:  .img, .bin,
and .ima.  One can select a display of All files in the chosen directory
instead, which is what I did in order to be able to see and choose the .iso
files in question.
 As Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted here, the version of
Sonic RecordNow! distributed by Dell apparently does not know how to handle
ISO 9660 image files, at least not if they're identified by file name suffix
of .iso (see earlier remarks about file browser panel).  Feh.

you downloaded are disc images that are already bootable.  If you burn
a faithful reproduction of the image onto a CD, the CD will be
bootable.  The way to do that is to burn the image to disc as an
image, not as a file.  Most CD burning software have an option like

 Well, I was attempting to find a way to do that, thus my original
posting.

burn image to disc.  For example, Nero Burning ROM SE has this
functionality in the Recorder menu under Burn Image  I haven't
ever used Sonic RecordNow! so I don't know where the option is (or

 See remarks above.  Also, I don't have Nero, etc.  I was hoping to
invest as little as possible into software for Microslop's OS and to have
a usable FreeBSD system about a month ago. :-(  Unfortunately, neither my
graphics card nor my wireless card has support under 5.2.1.  5.3 allegedly
will allow me to attempt to borrow the wireless driver from Windows XP for
use under FreeBSD (via NDIS).  The most recent XFree86 and X.org versions
of X11R6 are alleged to have simple drivers for the graphics card (but
probably with no 3D acceleration :-( ), though it isn't clear to me yet
whether the 5.3 kernel supports the communication with the card.  And,
to protect what I am stuck using in the meantime, I bought a disk backup
package that doesn't work right and is falsely advertised by Symantec as
being supported, namely, Norton Ghost 9.0.  Grumble, hiss, grumble, grumble...
I'm beginning to think that software developers who develop applications
for Microslop's OS automatically suffer brain damage in the process.

even if it has one, though Parv's comments above would suggest that it
does).  If it doesn't, you are going to need to use some other
software because burning the image to disc is the only way you will
get the outcome you want.

 It appears that I have found a way to do it with burncd under 5.2.1.
I'll reply later to the article that gave me the tip to get it to work, and
I'll describe the peculiar, new-but-not-show-stopping problem encountered
along the way.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-05 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:
   On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  wrote Scott Bennett thusly...
  
   I've downloaded the following ISO image files:
   
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
   
   I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows
   XP Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said
   system, but did not get bootable CDs either way.
  
  First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM
  ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected Data Disc
  and chose the ISO image.  Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO
  image /file/ on the CD.
  
  After more poking around in the software interface, Burn Image
  or some such option was revealed under the heading of Data Disc
  or some such.  And, that too did its job: i got the mini install
  ISO image on CD to boot with.
  
   Thanks for the suggestion.  I've now gone back and found the
  little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD.
  I then tried it with each of the first two files noted above.  The
  CDs written via the green button do get a little farther than
  before.  In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD
  before deciding to boot from the hard drive after all.  The green
  button CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the
  upper left corner of the screen that says, Missing operating
  system, and then hang.
 
 This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the make a
 bootable CD function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD.
 
  On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used
 Sonic RecordNow! ?  It certainly looks to me as though the green
 button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an
 exact copy of

On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being
for making a bootable CD, and my understanding of that function in
alternative software.  In short:  I misunderstood.  I apologize for
the misdirection.

-- 
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-04 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Scott Bennett thusly...

 I've downloaded the following ISO image files:
 
  5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
  5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
  5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
 
 I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP
 Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said
 system, but did not get bootable CDs either way.

First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM
ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected Data Disc and
chose the ISO image.  Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image
/file/ on the CD.

After more poking around in the software interface, Burn Image or
some such option was revealed under the heading of Data Disc or
some such.  And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO
image on CD to boot with.

 Thanks for the suggestion.  I've now gone back and found the
little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD.  I
then tried it with each of the first two files noted above.  The CDs
written via the green button do get a little farther than before.
In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before
deciding to boot from the hard drive after all.  The green button
CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left
corner of the screen that says, Missing operating system, and then
hang.


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* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army.   *
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burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Scott Bennett
 Apparently, I'm going to have to install 5.3 even before I get 5.2.1 into
usable shape in order to be able to try NDIS.  Sigh.  I've downloaded the
following ISO image files:

5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso

I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own
facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get
bootable CDs either way.  I also tried mounting the Windows partition onto /mnt
under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the first file onto a CD-RW
and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW.  Neither attempt gave me a bootable
CD.  I've also looked in the _FreeBSD_Handbook_ that came with the 5.2.1 CDs,
but did not find explicit instructions on how to make bootable CDs, just some
limited instructions on making bootable floppies.
 If someone would be so kind as to email me instructions on how best to
make bootable CDs for 5.3-RELEASE, I'd really appreciate it.  (There's probably
no need to post them to the list.)  Over a month has passed, and I still don't
have a usable FreeBSD system (no wireless networking, no graphics support).
It's getting to be really depressing.
 Thanks in advance for any help you can send.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 03 Jan Scott Bennett wrote:

   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
 
 I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own
 facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get
 bootable CDs either way.

Strange. Every decent burning program on windows (cdrwin, nero) has an
option to burn iso _images_ to a cdr(w). Because it is an image(!) the
cdr(w) will be bootable (it's an image of a bootable cd).

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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Robin Becker
dick hoogendijk wrote:
On 03 Jan Scott Bennett wrote:

5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own
facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get
bootable CDs either way.

Strange. Every decent burning program on windows (cdrwin, nero) has an
option to burn iso _images_ to a cdr(w). Because it is an image(!) the
cdr(w) will be bootable (it's an image of a bootable cd).
Sonic RecordNow 7.10 as given away by Dell doesn't have an option to 
burn ISO images. Absolutely stupid, made me furious.

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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote:

 I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's 
 own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not 
 get bootable CDs either way.  I also tried mounting the Windows 
 partition onto /mnt under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the 
 first file onto a CD-RW and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW.  
 Neither attempt gave me a bootable CD.

What, exactly, was your burncd command?  Using 4.10 to create 5.3 CDs, 
this just worked, using write-once CDs:

burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /var/tmp/cd.iso fixate

-- Dave
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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Scott Bennett thusly...

 I've downloaded the following ISO image files:
 
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
   5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
 
 I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP
 Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said
 system, but did not get bootable CDs either way.

First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM
ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected Data Disc and
chose the ISO image.  Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image
/file/ on the CD.

After more poking around in the software interface, Burn Image or
some such option was revealed under the heading of Data Disc or
some such.  And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO
image on CD to boot with.


  - Parv

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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:49:26 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote:

 I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's 
 own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not 
 get bootable CDs either way.  I also tried mounting the Windows 
 partition onto /mnt under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the 
 first file onto a CD-RW and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW.  
 Neither attempt gave me a bootable CD.

What, exactly, was your burncd command?  Using 4.10 to create 5.3 CDs, 
this just worked, using write-once CDs:

burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /var/tmp/cd.iso fixate

 As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path
correctly:-):

 mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt
 cd /mnt/Documents\ and\ Settings/Scott/My\ Documents/CD-R
 burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso fixate

and later:

 burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso fixate

Note that there is no partition letter following the major and minor devices
in /dev/acd0 (i.e., no partition 'c' that traditionally encompasses an entire
drive in BSD).  It is the only name in /dev pertaining to the CD/DVD burner.


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Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote:

 As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path
 correctly:-):
 
  mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt

[...]

Try copying the file to a local BSD file-system; the NTFS semantics could 
be getting in the way.  Also try write-once media, if you can, as I've 
occasionally had difficulties with rewriteable media.

-- Dave
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