Re: changing Sendmail server's IP address, nightmare!

2006-02-26 Thread Derek Ragona
As far as I know, sendmail uses DNS and the server's name resolution it is 
running on for the IP's.  There is nowhere I know in sendmail where an IP 
is hard coded.  If you are having any difficulty it is due to changes to 
your DNS, and the time it takes for DNS changes to propagate across the net.


It sounds like you were doing too many changes at one time, moving to a new 
ISP which would require a change to all your IP addresses, AND changing 
your DNS from internal to the ISP's.


In making these changes you need to first get on your new IP block, so you 
have internet access.  Then update your DNS records for the new IP 
addresses.  Then as a last step move the DNS to your ISP, making your 
server's DNS a slave DNS or just a caching DNS server.


In making a move to your ISP's DNS be aware ISP's do NOT usually update 
their DNS maps often, typically once a week, then the new maps begin 
proliferating which usually takes 24-72 hours.


Hope this helps.

-Derek


At 09:35 PM 2/25/2006, Curtis Hart wrote:


  Does anyone have any specific information on making IP address changes 
to Sendmail servers since I have found that this situation is a lot more 
difficult/tedious than I had thought.  The Sendmail server in question is 
also providing DNS for a web server, but I would like to use our new 
ISP's DNS info for our web domains and for the mail server.  In a 
nutshell, I recently started working for a small business that has a mail 
server and web server, this occurred just after they had already begun 
switching to a new ISP (Mpower).  I thought I knew enough UNIX/sys admin 
info to make this happen but this has turned into a minor nightmare for 
me, since Sendmail has so many files that may contain the old IP info.




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RE: changing Sendmail server's IP address, nightmare!

2006-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

It is not a nightmare to change a mailserver's IP number,
but it is a long process to change a DNS servers IP number if
that server was fully registered in the root nameservers.

Generally, putting your main mailserver and main DNS server
on the same box is considered not very smart these days.

You need to get your ISP involved in this process, that kind
of support is what your paying them for.  If they can't help
(and I highly doubt that) then find another ISP that can.

Ted

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  Does anyone have any specific information on making IP
address changes to Sendmail servers since I have found that
this situation is a lot more difficult/tedious than I had
thought.  The Sendmail server in question is also providing DNS
for a web server, but I would like to use our new ISP's DNS
info for our web domains and for the mail server.  In a
nutshell, I recently started working for a small business that
has a mail server and web server, this occurred just after they
had already begun switching to a new ISP (Mpower).  I thought I
knew enough UNIX/sys admin info to make this happen but this
has turned into a minor nightmare for me, since Sendmail has so
many files that may contain the old IP info.



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changing Sendmail server's IP address, nightmare!

2006-02-25 Thread Curtis Hart
 
  Does anyone have any specific information on making IP address changes to 
Sendmail servers since I have found that this situation is a lot more 
difficult/tedious than I had thought.  The Sendmail server in question is also 
providing DNS for a web server, but I would like to use our new ISP's DNS info 
for our web domains and for the mail server.  In a nutshell, I recently started 
working for a small business that has a mail server and web server, this 
occurred just after they had already begun switching to a new ISP (Mpower).  I 
thought I knew enough UNIX/sys admin info to make this happen but this has 
turned into a minor nightmare for me, since Sendmail has so many files that may 
contain the old IP info.  
   


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Re: changing Sendmail server's IP address, nightmare!

2006-02-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-02-25 19:35, Curtis Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have any specific information on making IP address changes
 to Sendmail servers since I have found that this situation is a lot
 more difficult/tedious than I had thought.  The Sendmail server in
 question is also providing DNS for a web server, but I would like to
 use our new ISP's DNS info for our web domains and for the mail
 server.  In a nutshell, I recently started working for a small
 business that has a mail server and web server, this occurred just
 after they had already begun switching to a new ISP (Mpower).  I
 thought I knew enough UNIX/sys admin info to make this happen but this
 has turned into a minor nightmare for me, since Sendmail has so many
 files that may contain the old IP info.

Not necessarily.  The Sendmail configuration in all the systems I use
doesn't have hardcoded IP addresses _anywhere_.

Sendmail can rely and usually *does* rely heavily on DNS for providing
information about the IP addresses.  The default FreeBSD setup uses the
file /etc/mail/local-host-names as a list of hostnames or domain names
for which delivery will be done 'locally', but that's pretty much all of
it.

Can you provide more information about the particular email  DNS setup?

If yes, then after you give us all the details of the setup you
currently have, what you are trying to achieve, whaty you have tried so
far and what has failed (including any interesting logs, configuration
files, etc.) we will certainly be able to give you more substantial, to
the point and correct help :)

- Giorgos

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