Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
 hello.
 
 i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
 can be summed up in one chmod command:
 
 find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
 find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;

The EXACT equivalent would be:

find . -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go=rx {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod u=rw,go=r {} \;

But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for.  Your
probably looking for something like chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .

 
 it fixes my permissions ...
 i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX

This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your
permissions are messed up.  Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do
go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a
big difference.  Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't
take away any permissions like my example earlier does.  Lastly, the big
difference between this and the find version is that the find version,
both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not
on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with
set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one
type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or
directories.  So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have
directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that.  The
find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a
normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this
probably won't be a big deal either.  The single recursive chmod I gave
you will most likely be what you need.

 
 what would be the best solution here?
 
 thanks,
 -- fafa
 
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
  hello.
 
  i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
  can be summed up in one chmod command:
 
  find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
  find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
 
 Uhm, why?  Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
 stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?
 
 What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
 permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.
 
 There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
 for the sake of making it one command instead of two.  Otherwise, you
 may as well do more complex stuff like:

Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or
more complicated.  I use the following command all the time to fix
permissions similar to what he seems to be doing.  Though it's not
technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs.

chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .

My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following:

chmod -R =rwX .

 
   find . | while read line; do
   mode=''
   [ -d ${line} ]  mode=0755
   [ -f ${line} ]  mode=0644
 
   [ -n ${mode} ]  echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
   done | sh
 
 But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
 consistently every time you want to do something similar :)
 
  what would be the best solution here?
 
  I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
 
  find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
 
 This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.
 
  If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
 
  find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
else chmod 644; fi; \
  done
 
 I guess you meant to write:
 
 find . | while read path; do \
   if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
   else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
 done
 
 Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.
 
 But this has a minor buglet.  It will change everything that is not a
 directory to mode 0644.  This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
 (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).
 
 - Giorgos
 
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 02:09:12AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
  hello.
  
  i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
  can be summed up in one chmod command:
  
  find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
  find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
 
 The EXACT equivalent would be:
 
 find . -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go=rx {} \;
 find . -type f -exec chmod u=rw,go=r {} \;
 
 But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for.  Your
 probably looking for something like chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .

And one last thing, I'm assuming your umask is probably 022.  When chmod
doesn't have the u, g, o, or a qualifies, then it uses the umask to mask
the permission bits as appropriate so the command can be simplified to
the following:

chmod -R =rwX .

 
  
  it fixes my permissions ...
  i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX
 
 This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your
 permissions are messed up.  Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do
 go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a
 big difference.  Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't
 take away any permissions like my example earlier does.  Lastly, the big
 difference between this and the find version is that the find version,
 both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not
 on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with
 set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one
 type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or
 directories.  So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have
 directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that.  The
 find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a
 normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this
 probably won't be a big deal either.  The single recursive chmod I gave
 you will most likely be what you need.
 
  
  what would be the best solution here?
  
  thanks,
  -- fafa
  
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Fafa Diliha Romanova

Thank you for your kind assistance!

That was exactly what I was looking for.

But after the constructive response from many other kind souls
on this list, I have decided to stick with my find command
for now and keep your recursive chmod as an alternate.

I keep a local mirror of all my modified configuration files
(gives me easy backup and a great deal control over my system).
I needed this command to quickly change permissions and
ownership of the homedir I store them in.

Thanks again!
-- Fafa

- Original Message -
From: Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fafa Diliha Romanova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:09:12 -0800

 
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
  hello.
 
  i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
  can be summed up in one chmod command:
 
  find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
  find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
 
 The EXACT equivalent would be:
 
 find . -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go=rx {} \;
 find . -type f -exec chmod u=rw,go=r {} \;
 
 But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for.  Your
 probably looking for something like chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
 
 
  it fixes my permissions ...
  i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX
 
 This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your
 permissions are messed up.  Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do
 go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a
 big difference.  Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't
 take away any permissions like my example earlier does.  Lastly, the big
 difference between this and the find version is that the find version,
 both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not
 on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with
 set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one
 type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or
 directories.  So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have
 directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that.  The
 find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a
 normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this
 probably won't be a big deal either.  The single recursive chmod I gave
 you will most likely be what you need.
 
 
  what would be the best solution here?
 
  thanks,
  -- fafa
 
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Fafa Diliha Romanova

I think it's really best that I stick to my find commands.

chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX . worked really fast but it also made all
my files executable.

Bad idea, asking for such a command.

By the way, umask 022? What is meant by that?

- Original Message -
From: Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800

 
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
   hello.
  
   i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
   can be summed up in one chmod command:
  
   find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
   find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
 
  Uhm, why?  Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
  stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?
 
  What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
  permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.
 
  There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
  for the sake of making it one command instead of two.  Otherwise, you
  may as well do more complex stuff like:
 
 Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or
 more complicated.  I use the following command all the time to fix
 permissions similar to what he seems to be doing.  Though it's not
 technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs.
 
 chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
 
 My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following:
 
 chmod -R =rwX .
 
 
  find . | while read line; do
  mode=''
  [ -d ${line} ]  mode=0755
  [ -f ${line} ]  mode=0644
 
  [ -n ${mode} ]  echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
  done | sh
 
  But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
  consistently every time you want to do something similar :)
 
   what would be the best solution here?
  
   I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
  
   find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
 
  This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.
 
   If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
  
   find . | while read path; do \
 if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
 else chmod 644; fi; \
   done
 
  I guess you meant to write:
 
  find . | while read path; do \
if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
  done
 
  Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.
 
  But this has a minor buglet.  It will change everything that is not a
  directory to mode 0644.  This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
  (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).
 
  - Giorgos
 
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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:33:12AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
 
 I think it's really best that I stick to my find commands.
 
 chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX . worked really fast but it also made all
 my files executable.

That should only of happened if they already had at least one execute
bit set.  Now if you mistyped it as a lower-case x, then it's garenteed
to set the execute bit.

 
 Bad idea, asking for such a command.
 
 By the way, umask 022? What is meant by that?

umask is used to mask off certain permission bits from being set when a
file is created.  Most files are created with permissions 666, but a
umask of 022 will mask it to 644.  For directories it would mask 777 to
755.  Other common umask are 002, 027, and 077.

Umask:  022 002 027 077 022 002 027 077
Start:  666 666 666 666 777 777 777 777
Finish: 644 664 640 600 755 775 750 700

The techninal operation is mode  ~umask

Now when you use the string =rwX instead of something like u=rwX, no
qualifier in front of the =, +, or - sign, then it sets all bits minus
what is masked off so a umask of 022 will prevent it from setting the
write bit on group or other permissions.

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands
 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800
 
  
  On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
   On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
   
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
   
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
  
   Uhm, why?  Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
   stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?
  
   What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
   permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.
  
   There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
   for the sake of making it one command instead of two.  Otherwise, you
   may as well do more complex stuff like:
  
  Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or
  more complicated.  I use the following command all the time to fix
  permissions similar to what he seems to be doing.  Though it's not
  technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs.
  
  chmod -R u=rwX,go=rX .
  
  My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following:
  
  chmod -R =rwX .
  
  
 find . | while read line; do
 mode=''
 [ -d ${line} ]  mode=0755
 [ -f ${line} ]  mode=0644
  
 [ -n ${mode} ]  echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
 done | sh
  
   But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
   consistently every time you want to do something similar :)
  
what would be the best solution here?
   
I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
   
find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
  
   This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.
  
If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
   
find . | while read path; do \
  if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
  else chmod 644; fi; \
done
  
   I guess you meant to write:
  
   find . | while read path; do \
 if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
 else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
   done
  
   Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.
  
   But this has a minor buglet.  It will change everything that is not a
   directory to mode 0644.  This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
   (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).
  
   - Giorgos
  
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chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-12 Thread Fafa Diliha Romanova
hello.

i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:

find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;

it fixes my permissions ...
i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX

what would be the best solution here?

thanks,
-- fafa

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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-12 Thread Eric McCoy
Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello.
i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
can be summed up in one chmod command:
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
it fixes my permissions ...
i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX
what would be the best solution here?
I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:
find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX
If you were feeling crazy and use sh:
find . | while read path; do \
  if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
  else chmod 644; fi; \
done
The latter is overkill, but the approach can be useful for nontrivial 
operations on systems that don't support -print0.  It also has the 
benefit that you can do it over ssh without having to copy over a 
script, e.g.

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sh -s script.sh
(No nightmares from having to double- or triple-escape special 
characters, either.)

Sorry, I don't know how to do it all with chmod.  I assume you've 
consulted the excellent FreeBSD man pages?

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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 12), Fafa Diliha Romanova said:
 i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
 can be summed up in one chmod command:
 
 find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
 find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
 
 it fixes my permissions ...
 i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX

That chmod command should work just fine.

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Re: chmod equivalent to find commands

2005-03-12 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
 hello.

 i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that
 can be summed up in one chmod command:

 find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
 find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;

Uhm, why?  Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that
stuffing as many actions as possible in one line?

What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the
permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time.

There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just
for the sake of making it one command instead of two.  Otherwise, you
may as well do more complex stuff like:

find . | while read line; do
mode=''
[ -d ${line} ]  mode=0755
[ -f ${line} ]  mode=0644

[ -n ${mode} ]  echo chmod ${mode} \${line}\
done | sh

But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat
consistently every time you want to do something similar :)

 what would be the best solution here?

 I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead:

 find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX

This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO.

 If you were feeling crazy and use sh:

 find . | while read path; do \
   if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755;
   else chmod 644; fi; \
 done

I guess you meant to write:

find . | while read path; do \
  if [ -d $path ]; then chmod 755 ${path};
  else chmod 644 ${path}; fi; \
done

Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result.

But this has a minor buglet.  It will change everything that is not a
directory to mode 0644.  This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok
(or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance).

- Giorgos

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