Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-07-24 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:06:38 -0700
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 * If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three

guess or brute force - so  quite long random passwords (or ssh keys) are
extremely recommendable.

   things to obtain root access, instead of just one:
 
   + A valid username which is in the wheel group;
   + That user's password;
   + The root password.

that is assuming, of course, that the user your just logged in with belongs to
wheel.

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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-07-24 Thread Pollywog
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 11:33:26 Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:06:38 -0700

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three

 guess or brute force - so  quite long random passwords (or ssh keys) are
 extremely recommendable.

things to obtain root access, instead of just one:
 
+ A valid username which is in the wheel group;
+ That user's password;
+ The root password.

 that is assuming, of course, that the user your just logged in with belongs
 to wheel.

If one must allow root logins via ssh, I recommend in sshd_config:

PermitRootLogin without-password

This will force the use of a passphrase and disallow root login with just a 
password.
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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-07-24 Thread Hakan K

How can I change the ssh port?



Thanks
Troy
http://dominor.com

On 7/24/07, Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tuesday 24 July 2007 11:33:26 Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:06:38 -0700

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three

 guess or brute force - so  quite long random passwords (or ssh keys) are
 extremely recommendable.

things to obtain root access, instead of just one:
 
+ A valid username which is in the wheel group;
+ That user's password;
+ The root password.

 that is assuming, of course, that the user your just logged in with
belongs
 to wheel.

If one must allow root logins via ssh, I recommend in sshd_config:

PermitRootLogin without-password

This will force the use of a passphrase and disallow root login with just
a
password.
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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-07-24 Thread John Fitzgerald

In /etc/ssh/sshd_config uncomment Port 22 and change it.

On 7/24/07, Hakan K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How can I change the ssh port?



Thanks
Troy
http://dominor.com

On 7/24/07, Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 24 July 2007 11:33:26 Norberto Meijome wrote:
  On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:06:38 -0700
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   * If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three
 
  guess or brute force - so  quite long random passwords (or ssh keys) are
  extremely recommendable.
 
 things to obtain root access, instead of just one:
  
 + A valid username which is in the wheel group;
 + That user's password;
 + The root password.
 
  that is assuming, of course, that the user your just logged in with
 belongs
  to wheel.

 If one must allow root logins via ssh, I recommend in sshd_config:

 PermitRootLogin without-password

 This will force the use of a passphrase and disallow root login with just
 a
 password.
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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-30 Thread perryh
  you are warned, do not allow SSH to your box with user root at all.
 ...
 Having root logon enabled remotely is just asking for trouble.

The O.P. might be interested in knowing *why* allowing remote root
login is considered unwise:

* The name root is very well known.

* If root can log in remotely, a cracker need only guess root's
  password to obtain root access.

* If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three
  things to obtain root access, instead of just one:

  + A valid username which is in the wheel group;
  + That user's password;
  + The root password.

This at least doubles the difficulty of a brute-force attack:
even if a suitable username were obvious, there would still be
two passwords to be cracked.  It can be made even tougher by
having only one username (other than root) in the wheel group,
choosing that name as if it were a password, and not allowing
it to be externally known (e.g. never using it for mail).
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connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-29 Thread DSA - JCR
Hi all

I was trying to connect to my FreeBSD 6.2 box with SSH with PUTTY by
several days with the user root and nothing happens, only a denied
password from FBSD, and a timeout close connection.

But, a flash came to my mind ;D and then I tried to connect by a different
user and... voila, ssh connections came alive !!..

My question is: if root user is locked to connect by ssh (I think it maybe
logic, but..)

If it is so, how can I make an user that has same priviliges as root (I
beg your pardon for this newbie question...) I think that wheel group is
ok but what more?..

The think is that I need to connect to my FBSD box from outside the office
in a secure manner and control it,... well, surely you know this ;D


Thanks in advance

The more I learn FreeBSD, the more I love it

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico




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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-29 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri

On 5/29/07, DSA - JCR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all

I was trying to connect to my FreeBSD 6.2 box with SSH with PUTTY by
several days with the user root and nothing happens, only a denied
password from FBSD, and a timeout close connection.

But, a flash came to my mind ;D and then I tried to connect by a different
user and... voila, ssh connections came alive !!..

My question is: if root user is locked to connect by ssh (I think it maybe
logic, but..)

If it is so, how can I make an user that has same priviliges as root (I
beg your pardon for this newbie question...) I think that wheel group is
ok but what more?..

The think is that I need to connect to my FBSD box from outside the office
in a secure manner and control it,... well, surely you know this ;D


Thanks in advance

The more I learn FreeBSD, the more I love it

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico


Hello,

You can create a user and add the user into the wheel in /etc/group

It's not recommended to ssh to the box using root, use su after you
log to the shell.

If you are insist to ssh as root which is disabled by default in
sshd_config, you can uncomment it, you are warned, do not allow SSH to
your box with user root at all.

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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-29 Thread Thanos Rizoulis

O/H Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri έγραψε:


Hello,

You can create a user and add the user into the wheel in /etc/group

It's not recommended to ssh to the box using root, use su after you
log to the shell.

If you are insist to ssh as root which is disabled by default in
sshd_config, you can uncomment it, you are warned, do not allow SSH to
your box with user root at all.


...and along the way you will want to install denyhosts or key 
authentication...


Having root logon enabled remotely is just asking for trouble.

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Electronic Computing Systems Engineer
Larissa, Greece
FreeBSD/PCBSD user
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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:39:06AM -, DSA - JCR wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I was trying to connect to my FreeBSD 6.2 box with SSH with PUTTY by
 several days with the user root and nothing happens, only a denied
 password from FBSD, and a timeout close connection.
 
 But, a flash came to my mind ;D and then I tried to connect by a different
 user and... voila, ssh connections came alive !!..
 
 My question is: if root user is locked to connect by ssh (I think it maybe
 logic, but..)

That is the default and best practice.

 If it is so, how can I make an user that has same priviliges as root (I
 beg your pardon for this newbie question...) I think that wheel group is
 ok but what more?..

If you include your id in the wheel group (add it to the wheel line
in the /etc/group file), then you can log in with that id.  Once you
have logged in, then you can 'su' to root if you know the root password.

 The think is that I need to connect to my FBSD box from outside the office
 in a secure manner and control it,... well, surely you know this ;D

Yes, use ssh to first get logged in.  Then use su to go to root.
It is more secure that way.   

Alternatively, you can use sudo to create a set of things you can
do from your non-root account without logging in as root.   That is
probably even safer.   sudo is in ports.

jerry

 
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 The more I learn FreeBSD, the more I love it
 
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 Desarrollo de Software Atlantico
 
 
 
 
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