Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
Hi Chuck, I ran memtest86+ by loading it from the loader prompt. It completed Pass 1 with no errors in about 45 minutes. While I'll re-run memtest86+ for at least 2 passes tonight, I more suspect bad blocks in my ffs slice. So I am planning to install sysutils/smartmontools and run smartctl on /dev/ad8s2 (the ffs slice). Is there any port for monitoring system thermals, particularly CPU ? Regards Manish Jain On 09-Jul-11 22:24, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Manish Jain wrote: What do I make of it when the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and FreeBSD -8.0-amd64 ? That's interesting but inconclusive. Can you run prime95 testing overnight und er WinXP without issues? Or memtest86? BTW, 8.2 does NOT - for reasons unfathomable to me - install /usr/sbin/apmd. I don't know how significant that is, but I have had to insert into rc.conf : apm_enable="NO" apmd_enable="NO" ACPI replaced APM around 2000. (I'm assuming you don't have a 11-year-old quad -core Phenom system, since AMD didn't make such processors until 2007 or 2008.) Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Manish Jain wrote: > What do I make of it when the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and > FreeBSD-8.0-amd64 ? That's interesting but inconclusive. Can you run prime95 testing overnight under WinXP without issues? Or memtest86? > BTW, 8.2 does NOT - for reasons unfathomable to me - install /usr/sbin/apmd. > I don't know how significant that is, but I have had to insert into rc.conf : > > apm_enable="NO" > apmd_enable="NO" ACPI replaced APM around 2000. (I'm assuming you don't have a 11-year-old quad-core Phenom system, since AMD didn't make such processors until 2007 or 2008.) Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
Hi Chuck, What do I make of it when the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and FreeBSD-8.0-amd64 ? BTW, 8.2 does NOT - for reasons unfathomable to me - install /usr/sbin/apmd. I don't know how significant that is, but I have had to insert into rc.conf : apm_enable="NO" apmd_enable="NO" Thanks for any help. Regards Manish Jain [1]invalid.poin...@gmail.com On 09-Jul-11 19:59, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Manish Jain wrote: I am running FreeBSD-8.2-amd64 on a Western Digital 320 GD disk and a quad-core AMD Phenom processor. After booting, the disk keeps continuously (meaning continuous I/O) and after a couple of hours (on the console with the X server not running), suddenly the whole system dies, powering off in a flash. I suspect the continuous I/O is causing is a CPU overheat which results in this behaviour. While you probably do have flaky hardware causing problems, even under the wors t case situation, a modern hard drive doesn't use more than about 10W even unde r full load (ie, continuous writes). Compare that with the 125W thermal design rating of a 4-core Phenom. If your system is overheating, it's not because of what a hard drive is doing. It should be easy to tell if thermals are an issue-- is the CPU heat sink getti ng too hot to touch just before this shutdown? If so, it's likely to be a prob lem with a cooling fan or heatsink attachment. Also, what is it that makes you think your disk is doing continuous I/O? What does "iostat 5" or similar show? Regards, References 1. mailto:invalid.poin...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Manish Jain wrote: > I am running FreeBSD-8.2-amd64 on a Western Digital 320 GD disk and a > quad-core AMD Phenom processor. After booting, the disk keeps > continuously (meaning continuous I/O) and after a couple of hours (on > the console with the X server not running), suddenly the whole system > dies, powering off in a flash. I suspect the continuous I/O is causing > is a CPU overheat which results in this behaviour. While you probably do have flaky hardware causing problems, even under the worst case situation, a modern hard drive doesn't use more than about 10W even under full load (ie, continuous writes). Compare that with the 125W thermal design rating of a 4-core Phenom. If your system is overheating, it's not because of what a hard drive is doing. It should be easy to tell if thermals are an issue-- is the CPU heat sink getting too hot to touch just before this shutdown? If so, it's likely to be a problem with a cooling fan or heatsink attachment. Also, what is it that makes you think your disk is doing continuous I/O? What does "iostat 5" or similar show? Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
Hello all, I am running FreeBSD-8.2-amd64 on a Western Digital 320 GD disk and a quad-core AMD Phenom processor. After booting, the disk keeps continuously (meaning continuous I/O) and after a couple of hours (on the console with the X server not running), suddenly the whole system dies, powering off in a flash. I suspect the continuous I/O is causing is a CPU overheat which results in this behaviour. The strange thing is when I ran a script to ktrace and kdump, there is no sign of any unwarranted I/O. Can anyone suggest what possibly be wrong with my system ? I have disabled as much as possible in rc.conf and syslog.conf to prevent I/O. My script and the output are pasted below. BTW, the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and FreeBSD-8.0-amd64. The reason I do not want to install FreeBSD-8.0-amd64 is that its Logo saver, one of my al-time favourites, does not work. In 8.2, it does work. One thing I should mention is that, apart from swap, I have only one partition / (35 GB). No other mountpoints. BTW, does FreeBSD have anything like Linux badblocks to check for any bad sectors in hard disks ? Thanks for any help. Regards Manish Jain [1]invalid.poin...@gmail.com #!/usr/local/bin/bash ktrace -dip 0 sleep 10 ktrace -C kdump -m64 | egrep '\|\' > ~/diskio.log exit 0 Here are the results : 1640 bash CALL read(0xff,0x800e23080,0x77) 1640 bash GIO fd 255 read 82 bytes 1640 bash RET read 82/0x52 1642 sleepCALL read(0x3,0x7fffe170,0x80) 1642 sleepGIO fd 3 read 128 bytes 1642 sleepRET read 128/0x80 1642 sleepCALL read(0x3,0x800533000,0xb4) 1642 sleepGIO fd 3 read 180 bytes 1642 sleepRET read 180/0xb4 1642 sleepGIO fd 3 read 4096 bytes 858 ppp CALL read(0,0x801420140,0x800) 858 ppp GIO fd 0 read 18 bytes 858 ppp RET read 18/0x12 858 ppp CALL read(0,0x801420140,0x800) 858 ppp GIO fd 0 read 53 bytes 858 ppp RET read 53/0x35 858 ppp CALL write(0x6,0x7fffd980,0x34) 858 ppp RET write 52/0x34 858 ppp CALL read(0x6,0x7fffe320,0x804) 858 ppp GIO fd 6 read 44 bytes 858 ppp RET read 44/0x2c 858 ppp CALL write(0,0x80145b138,0x2d) 858 ppp RET write 45/0x2d 858 ppp CALL read(0,0x801420140,0x800) 858 ppp GIO fd 0 read 53 bytes 858 ppp RET read 53/0x35 858 ppp CALL write(0x6,0x7fffd980,0x34) 858 ppp RET write 52/0x34 858 ppp CALL read(0x6,0x7fffe320,0x804) 858 ppp GIO fd 6 read 44 bytes 858 ppp RET read 44/0x2c 858 ppp CALL write(0,0x80145b338,0x2e) 858 ppp RET write 46/0x2e 1640 bash CALL read(0xff,0x800e23080,0x77) 1640 bash GIO fd 255 read 73 bytes kdump -m64 | egrep '\\|\\' > ~/diskio.log" 1640 bash RET read 73/0x49 1643 ktrace CALL read(0x3,0x7fffe140,0x80) 1643 ktrace GIO fd 3 read 128 bytes 1643 ktrace RET read 128/0x80 1643 ktrace CALL read(0x3,0x800534000,0xb4) 1643 ktrace GIO fd 3 read 180 bytes 1643 ktrace RET read 180/0xb4 1643 ktrace GIO fd 3 read 4096 bytes References 1. mailto:invalid.poin...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
