Doc

2013-08-06 Thread Barbaraann Coleman
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Re: Unable to build DOC ports

2013-07-23 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 08:47:47AM -0400, Carmel wrote:
 I am having a problem updating some ports since installing the
 print/texlive-full port a few days ago. I have: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive
 sans quotes at the top of my /etc/make.conf file.
 
[...]

I think you have the reason just above.
For the moment the docproj port relies on print/teTeX-base and not
print/texlive-full.

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Unable to build DOC ports

2013-07-22 Thread Carmel
I am having a problem updating some ports since installing the
print/texlive-full port a few days ago. I have: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive
sans quotes at the top of my /etc/make.conf file.

For instance, the en-freebsd-doc-42326,1, and in fact all of the
*-freebsd-doc ports are refusing to build. This is from the build log:

env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=en-freebsd-doc-42095,1 
UPGRADE_PORT_VER=42095,1 make clean
===  Cleaning for docproj-1.17_13
===  Cleaning for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
===  Cleaning for latex-cjk-4.8.2_6
===  Cleaning for freetype-tools-1.3.1_9
===  Cleaning for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1
env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=en-freebsd-doc-42095,1 
UPGRADE_PORT_VER=42095,1 make
===  Found saved configuration for en-freebsd-doc-40771_1,1
=== Fetching all distfiles required by en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 for building
===  Extracting for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1
= SHA256 Checksum OK for freebsd-doc-42326.tar.gz.
===  Patching for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1
===   en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 depends on package: docproj=1.17 - not found
===Verifying install for docproj=1.17 in /usr/ports/textproc/docproj
===  Found saved configuration for docproj-1.17_12
=== Fetching all distfiles required by docproj-1.17_13 for building
===  Extracting for docproj-1.17_13
===  Patching for docproj-1.17_13
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: dvips - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: jadetex - found
===  Configuring for docproj-1.17_13
===  Installing for docproj-1.17_13
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: fixrtf - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: links - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: pngtopnm - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: scr2png - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: scr2txt - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: xsltproc - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: peps - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xml/dtd/xhtml/xhtml.soc - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xsl/docbook/html/docbook.xsl - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xsl/iso-schematron/xslt1/iso_schematron_skeleton_for_xslt1.xsl 
- found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xml/docbook/4.5/docbookx.dtd - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xsl/docbook/html/docbook.xsl - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xsl/iso-schematron/xslt1/iso_schematron_skeleton_for_xslt1.xsl 
- found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/xml/docbook/4.5/docbookx.dtd - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xml/xmlcharent/catalog 
- found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on package: p5-XML-Parser=2.41 - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: zip - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: svn - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: igor - found
===   docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: cjktexsty - not found
===Verifying install for cjktexsty in /usr/ports/chinese/docproj
=== Fetching all distfiles required by zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 for building
===  Extracting for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
=== Fetching all distfiles required by zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 for building
===  Patching for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
===   zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
===  Configuring for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
===  Building for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
=== cjktexsty (all)
Warning: Object directory not changed from original 
/usr/ports/chinese/docproj/work/src/cjktexsty
lex -t  cjktexsty.l  cjktexsty.c
cc -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon64 
-I/usr/local/include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector  -c cjktexsty.c
cc -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon64 
-I/usr/local/include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector   -o cjktexsty cjktexsty.o 
-L/usr/local/lib -liconv
===  Installing for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6
===   zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 depends on executable: gbklatex - not found
===Verifying install for gbklatex in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk

===  latex-cjk-4.8.2_6 conflicts with installed package(s): 
  tex-kpathsea-6.1.0_2
  tex-web2c-20120701_2

  They install files into the same place.
  You may want to stop build with Ctrl + C.

At that point the build continues until the following:

gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -pedantic -I./../../lib  -I/usr/local/include -I.  
-DHAVE_LIBKPATHSEA=1 -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DHAVE_LIBINTL=1  errormsg.c
gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -pedantic -I./../../lib  -I/usr/local/include -I.  
-DHAVE_LIBKPATHSEA=1 -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DHAVE_LIBINTL=1  filesrch.c
filesrch.c:39: error: conflicting types for 'kpathsea_version_string'
/usr/local/include/kpathsea/version.h

Updating broken link from your page: http://forum.vstyle.co.il/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html

2013-07-13 Thread Lurie Austinser
Hello, 

I have bumped into your site while seeking for software and found your
website very interesting :) 

Just a quick note, http://www.dvdrw.com/ is no longer active, and you are
linking to it from page -
http://forum.vstyle.co.il/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.h
tml

I was wondering if you don't mind updating the link to the updated website
en.DownloadAstro.com (http://en.downloadastro.com/) - A great download site
with more than 300K software and games, including professional reviews and
user ratings.

We are now in a process of updating the links in websites all around the
world and I will appreciate your cooperation. 

I am sure your users will find it useful. 

Thanks, 
Lurie 

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http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

2013-06-25 Thread Stephen Burke
Does anyone know how I could push serial output to an IP port that I
could SSH to?
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Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

2013-06-25 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 11:23, Stephen Burke wrote:
 Does anyone know how I could push serial output to an IP port that I
 could SSH to?


You want something like a Portmaster or Lantronix device that will
provide serial consoles over SSH

http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/external-device-servers/
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Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

2013-06-25 Thread pete wright
On Jun 25, 2013 9:25 AM, Stephen Burke sbu...@verizon.com wrote:

 Does anyone know how I could push serial output to an IP port that I
 could SSH to?


Sounds like you are looking for something like SOL (serial over LAN) which
can be setup with IPMI.  Google should help you find more info on setting
up IPMI.

-pete
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Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-set up.html

2013-06-25 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Mark Felder wrote:


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 11:23, Stephen Burke wrote:

Does anyone know how I could push serial output to an IP port that I
could SSH to?



You want something like a Portmaster or Lantronix device that will
provide serial consoles over SSH

http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/external-device-servers/


Or a small computer like a netbook running sshd with a USB to serial 
adapter and cu(1).


If you had two systems located near each other in a data center, each 
could act as the SSH serial console terminal for the other.

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Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-set up.html

2013-06-25 Thread Jungle Boogie
Raspberry pi running headless with practically no services and usb to
serial connection is what I'm likely to use.

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On Jun 25, 2013 6:23 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Mark Felder wrote:

  On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 11:23, Stephen Burke wrote:

 Does anyone know how I could push serial output to an IP port that I
 could SSH to?


 You want something like a Portmaster or Lantronix device that will
 provide serial consoles over SSH

 http://www.lantronix.com/**device-networking/external-**device-servers/http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/external-device-servers/


 Or a small computer like a netbook running sshd with a USB to serial
 adapter and cu(1).

 If you had two systems located near each other in a data center, each
 could act as the SSH serial console terminal for the other.
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-28 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Warren Block wrote on Thu 27.Sep'12 at 14:11:39 -0600 ]

 
 Yes.  If a new version of a file conflicts with your local changes, svn 
 will complain and try to help resolve those conflicts.

When I changed to svn, I completely remove or moved (mv(1)) the /usr/ports 
tree. Created a new /usr/ports and then used svn to pull in the collection. The 
same for the base course tree in /usr/src. It's my understanding you need to do 
that first. You can't use a mixed file system tree comprising cvs/csup and svn 
files. I'm sure Some will correct that if i'm wrong, but that's what I did and 
i've experienced no problems with it. 

The only noticeable difference is when updating my ports collection with svn, 
it's slower to update than say portsnap or cvs/csup. But it's not a major issue 
for me. 
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-28 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:


[ Warren Block wrote on Thu 27.Sep'12 at 14:11:39 -0600 ]



Yes.  If a new version of a file conflicts with your local changes, svn
will complain and try to help resolve those conflicts.


When I changed to svn, I completely remove or moved (mv(1)) the 
/usr/ports tree. Created a new /usr/ports and then used svn to pull in 
the collection. The same for the base course tree in /usr/src. It's my 
understanding you need to do that first. You can't use a mixed file 
system tree comprising cvs/csup and svn files. I'm sure Some will 
correct that if i'm wrong, but that's what I did and i've experienced 
no problems with it.


Right, but conflicts are what happen if you change files after the 
checkout.  For example, I have a couple of custom patches to source. 
If new versions of the source are checked in to the FreeBSD svn 
repository, and they conflict with my local changes, svn will give a 
warning and help try to resolve them.


The only noticeable difference is when updating my ports collection 
with svn, it's slower to update than say portsnap or cvs/csup. But 
it's not a major issue for me.


This seems to be highly variable, possibly depending on how often you 
update.  For me, svn is at least as fast as cvs, and it feels faster. 
Might just be a lot of fast screen output.  portsnap is easily the 
slowest on my systems.  But I update very often.

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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:12-0700, Ed Flecko wrote:

 I see that CVS is being phased out in favor of subversion.
 
 I follow the documentation to keep my system up to date by doing:
 
 # cd /usr/src
 # make buildworld
 # make buildkernel
 # make installkernel
 # shutdown -r now
 
 and then...
 
 # mount -u /
 # mount -a -t ufs
 # adjkerntz -i
 # mergemaster -p
 # cd /usr/src
 # make installworld
 # mergemaster
 # reboot
 
 I've pre-populated my /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/src/sys
 directories when I installed my system.
 
 I've installed subversion from package, I want to follow the Stable
 (same as Patch, right?) branch, and I'm struggling how to best use
 subversion to update my kernel source, system files, documentation,
 etc., so I can keep my system up to date.
 
 Can someone tell me how to use subversion to keep my /usr/ports,
 /usr/src and /usr/src/sys directories up to date?

This isn't really an answer to your question.

I switched from CVSup to Subversion for tracking base/stable/9 and 
ports/head on one of my computers not long ago. I still use local CVS 
for tracking my local changes. It works quite well without interfering 
with each other. Also, CVS is very lightweight, in more than one 
sense, compared to Subversion.

Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain 
files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder 
extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top 
of the existing hierarchy.

Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say 
/usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files 
back into place.

Depending on your needs, you might wanna set up a local Subversion 
repo mirror. Here's my writeup on the subject: 

http://ximalas.info/2012/09/09/making-your-own-freebsd-subversion-repository-mirror/

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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Thomas Mueller

from David J. Weller-Fahy dave-lists-freebsd-questi...@weller-fahy.com:

 svn update /usr/src/

When you use svn the first time, svn doesn't know where the repository is, 
and svn repository is not fully in sync with cvs or csup repository.

So you might need, in a fresh directory,

svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src

This is for 9-stable.

To update,

svn up /usr/src

To find paths for other repositories,
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base

Web site reference is
http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html


Tom
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:34:47 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 
 from David J. Weller-Fahy dave-lists-freebsd-questi...@weller-fahy.com:
 
  svn update /usr/src/
 
 When you use svn the first time, svn doesn't know where the repository is, 
 and svn repository is not fully in sync with cvs or csup repository.
 
 So you might need, in a fresh directory,
 
 svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src
 
 This is for 9-stable.
 
 To update,
 
 svn up /usr/src
 
 To find paths for other repositories,
 http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base
 
 Web site reference is
 http://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/update-freebsd-source-tree-using-subversion-svn.html


Does anyone know if there are already plans to make svn part
of the base system and integrate it with make, so that one
can use make update (in /usr/src and/or /usr/ports) with
control files or options (e. g. in /etc/make.conf) to have
influence on the updating behaviour (if to track RELEASE,
RELEASE-plevel, STABLE or HEAD / CURRENT)? In the past,
the additional package cvsup-without-gui had to be installed
(like Subversion today) before csup was created and incorporated
to the OS...

I'm currently using csup with this approach and would be
interested if Subversion can provide the same easy interface
to that kind of functionality.




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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 27/09/2012 07:41, Polytropon wrote:
 Does anyone know if there are already plans to make svn part
 of the base system and integrate it with make, so that one
 can use make update (in /usr/src and/or /usr/ports) with
 control files or options (e. g. in /etc/make.conf) to have
 influence on the updating behaviour (if to track RELEASE,
 RELEASE-plevel, STABLE or HEAD / CURRENT)? In the past,
 the additional package cvsup-without-gui had to be installed
 (like Subversion today) before csup was created and incorporated
 to the OS...
 
 I'm currently using csup with this approach and would be
 interested if Subversion can provide the same easy interface
 to that kind of functionality.

You can already use subversion with 'make update' -- unless you override
it with settings in /etc/make.conf, the ports or src Makefiles will
detect the presence of a .svn directory and from that automatically
deduce it should use svn to update the respective trees.

Whether svn will ever be incorporated in the base system is a different
question.  As far as I know, there aren't any plans to bring it in at
the moment (BICBW).  Maintaining vendor imports of software from
actively developed projects like SVN in two or more release branches and
head is quite a burden and the tendency recently is to prefer to use the
ports instead.  (Especially considering that SVN has a reasonably large
dependency tree.)

There has been talk of svnsup analogous to csup and I believe some
work has been done, but no idea what state that project is in, nor if
that would be added to base once it achieves sufficient maturity.

Cheers,

Matthew



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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you.

 I am using a custom kernel, but you're right - I should have said so.

 :-)

 Do you have any feedback using subversion? I know I can still use
 csup; I'm basically trying to figure out how to subversion to achieve
 the same result.

 Ed

Hi Ed and Polytropon,

Using freebsd-update tool does not mean you cannot use a custom
kernel on this machine.
These lines taken from the Handbook confirm this :
[...]
The default is to update the source code, the entire base system, and
the kernel.
[...]
The freebsd-update utility can automatically update the GENERIC kernel
only. If a custom kernel is in use, it will have to be rebuilt and
reinstalled after freebsd-update finishes installing the rest of the
updates. However,freebsd-update will detect and update the GENERIC
kernel in /boot/GENERIC (if it exists), even if it is not the current
(running) kernel of the system.
[...]
Sources : 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

freebsd-update tool works only with -RELEASE, you are right.

Best Regards,
Alexandre
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Lars Eighner


If only subversion had some scripts similar to the *-supfile s with cvsup,
including some first time scripts.

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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Flecko
Thank you all!

I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,

Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
of the existing hierarchy.

Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
/usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
back into place.

1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
referring to?

2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
replacing new files with the older files?

3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., downloaded, right?) the current
files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
point forward and not delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
local files back into place...Is that right?

Thank you again,
Ed
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:18-0700, Ed Flecko wrote:

 Thank you all!
 
 I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,
 
 Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
 files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
 extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
 of the existing hierarchy.
 
 Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
 /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
 back into place.
 
 1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
 referring to?

First, I may have misread your question. Others have provided far 
better answers to your exact question.

I use my local CVS repo to track changes I make to files I create or 
edit myself, like /etc/rc.conf, 
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/SOMECUSTOMKERNEL, etc.

When I switched from CVSup to Subversion, I let the directory 
/usr/src/sys exist, but only with my own files stored within this 
hierarchy, e.g. my custom kernel configuration file, 
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/ENTERPRISE.

The very existence of the directory /usr/src/sys prohibited Subversion 
from populating the directory /usr/src/sys with the desired contents. 
Thus, I had to delete all files and directories made during the intial 
svn co operation, including the special .svn directory, rename sys to 
sys0 as described in my previous email, redo the svn co operation, and 
finally move my own (custom) files back into place.

Afterwards, it's simply a matter of running svn update to update 
source files from the chosen svn repo, and in my case, check in any 
local changes made to the local CVS repo I use for my configuration 
management.

Maybe me adding CVS to the mix caused or still cause confusion.

 2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
 check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
 replacing new files with the older files?

I was indirectly referring to local edited files, such as custom 
kernel configuration files. My bad for not making this clearer.

 3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
 they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., downloaded, right?) the current
 files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
 point forward and not delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
 to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
 local files back into place...Is that right?

True. I had to do the rename and move files dance only once.

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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Ed Flecko wrote:


Thank you all!

I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,

Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
of the existing hierarchy.

Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
/usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
back into place.

1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
referring to?


If you have made any local changes to files in /usr/src or /usr/ports, 
those changes will conflict with the versions svn will bring in.



2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
replacing new files with the older files?


Yes, although svn will only care if those files differ from the files in 
the repository.  Most people won't have any local changes anyway.



3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., downloaded, right?) the current
files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
point forward and not delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
local files back into place...Is that right?


Yes.  If a new version of a file conflicts with your local changes, svn 
will complain and try to help resolve those conflicts.

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How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-26 Thread Ed Flecko
I see that CVS is being phased out in favor of subversion.

I follow the documentation to keep my system up to date by doing:

# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld
# make buildkernel
# make installkernel
# shutdown -r now

and then...

# mount -u /
# mount -a -t ufs
# adjkerntz -i
# mergemaster -p
# cd /usr/src
# make installworld
# mergemaster
# reboot

I've pre-populated my /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/src/sys
directories when I installed my system.

I've installed subversion from package, I want to follow the Stable
(same as Patch, right?) branch, and I'm struggling how to best use
subversion to update my kernel source, system files, documentation,
etc., so I can keep my system up to date.

Can someone tell me how to use subversion to keep my /usr/ports,
/usr/src and /usr/src/sys directories up to date?

Thank you,
Ed
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-26 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:12:34 -0700, Ed Flecko wrote:
 I see that CVS is being phased out in favor of subversion.
 
 I follow the documentation to keep my system up to date by doing:
 
 # cd /usr/src
 # make buildworld
 # make buildkernel
 # make installkernel
 # shutdown -r now
 
 and then...
 
 # mount -u /
 # mount -a -t ufs
 # adjkerntz -i
 # mergemaster -p
 # cd /usr/src
 # make installworld
 # mergemaster
 # reboot

Compare this again to the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile,
but looks valid (even though few cleanup steps are missing).



 I've installed subversion from package, I want to follow the Stable
 (same as Patch, right?) branch, and I'm struggling how to best use
 subversion to update my kernel source, system files, documentation,
 etc., so I can keep my system up to date.

No, -STABLE and -RELEASE-plevel are different things. While
-STABLE is a development branch that has incorporated things
that have been considered stable on the continuous work
toward a new version (that's from -CURRENT), -RELEASE-plevel
only contains security patches for that release: this is what
you get when using the binary method of updating, using freebsd-update.
The -CURRENT (or -HEAD) is the active devlopment branch
from which good things are passed to -STABLE. That
branch is considered experimental.

If you want to follow the -RELEASE-plevel way, why not
simply use freebsd-update, especially if you're _not_
running a custom kernel (as concluded from your commands
example shown above)?



 Can someone tell me how to use subversion to keep my /usr/ports,
 /usr/src and /usr/src/sys directories up to date?

/usr/src and /usr/src/sys are no distinct subtrees, i. e. /usr/src/sys
is a component of /usr/src. It's only different from /usr/ports.
Using the old CVS approach, both can be updated with the same
program (csup).



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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-26 Thread Ed Flecko
Thank you.

I am using a custom kernel, but you're right - I should have said so.

:-)

Do you have any feedback using subversion? I know I can still use
csup; I'm basically trying to figure out how to subversion to achieve
the same result.

Ed
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-26 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
While I track CURRENT, not STABLE, the process should not be
significantly different.  Here is what I do.

* Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com [2012-09-26 17:18 -0400]:
 I follow the documentation to keep my system up to date by doing:

Here I update the src tree.

# svn update /usr/src/

 # cd /usr/src
 # make buildworld
 # make buildkernel
 # make installkernel
 # shutdown -r now
 
 and then...
 
 # mount -u /

Here, instead of # mount -a -t ufs I use # zfs mount -a.

 # adjkerntz -i
 [...]
 # reboot

* Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com [2012-09-26 18:50 -0400]:
 Do you have any feedback using subversion? I know I can still use
 csup; I'm basically trying to figure out how to subversion to achieve
 the same result.

For ports, I do the following.

# svn update /usr/ports/
# cd /usr/ports
# make fetchindex
# pkg_version -l ''

Then update any ports which need updating.  There is, AFAICT, minimal
difference between what I used to do with csup, and what I do now with
svn.  Of course, the first time I used subversion was doing this... so I
may be doing it wrong. ;)

HTH,
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Re: doc

2012-08-18 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:43:58 +0200
Polytropon articulated:

 On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:17:42 +0400, иван кузнецов wrote:
  how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows?  
 
 The file is a tar archive compressed with BZip2. It's no real
 surprise that Windows cannot natively handle it, as with many
 established standard formats. :-)
 
  several program cant,i was attempt.7zip cant.  
 
 It's not a 7zip archive; still the 7zip page on http://7-zip.org/
 mentions that the BZip2 format is supported.
 
 However, there's BZip2 available for Windows, maybe this
 can help you: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bzip2.htm
 
 There are also claims that WinRAR is able to extract BZip2
 files.

WinZIP® http://www.winzip.com/win/en/index.htm is perfectly capable of
handling the following file types:

Zip (.zip)
Zipx (.zipx)
RAR (.rar)
7Z (.7z)
BZ2 (.bz, .bz2, .tbz, .tbz2)
LHA/LZH (.lha, .lzh)
Cabinet (.cab)
Disc Image (.img, .iso)
TAR (.tar)
GZIP (.gz, .taz, .tgz)
Compress (.tz, .z)
UUencode (.uu, .uue)
XXencode (.xxe)
MIME (.b64, .mim)
BinHex (.bhx, .hqx)
Most other compressed files

I was personally responsible for having the 7Z format added several
years ago.

By the way Poly, FreeBSD does not handle all types of compressed files
natively any more than Windows does. There are also add-ons available
to handle some really obscure formats.

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Re: doc

2012-08-18 Thread Bruce Cran

On 17/08/2012 10:17, иван кузнецов wrote:
how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows? several program 
cant,i was attempt.7zip cant. why i not able read documentation BEFORE 
install? where it after install? second,you installer is not well, not 
very undersandingable for newbis.i mean user must hit tab in some 
dialogs,but he press enter - attempt please.it is not MISTAKE but look 
mysteriously,and user worry.you shoud do only one small step in order 
to do freebsd more frendly - publish full international docs on 
install dvd -- user only put dvd and see docs in browser.its simpler 
than rewriting os in order to div it more frendly.is it true flash 
work badly or after complex work? i cant write on my writemaster dvd 
drive with freebsd9 - brasero dont see drive.what you can say about 
it? with best regards,ivan,Russia,Moscow.


You should be able to open it using 7-zip, but you'll need 2 steps - the 
first time you run extract you'll get a tar file. Then run extract on 
*that* file to get the documentation.


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Re: doc

2012-08-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:16:31 -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:43:58 +0200
 Polytropon articulated:
 
  On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:17:42 +0400, иван кузнецов wrote:
   how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows?  
  
  The file is a tar archive compressed with BZip2. It's no real
  surprise that Windows cannot natively handle it, as with many
  established standard formats. :-)
  
   several program cant,i was attempt.7zip cant.  
  
  It's not a 7zip archive; still the 7zip page on http://7-zip.org/
  mentions that the BZip2 format is supported.
  
  However, there's BZip2 available for Windows, maybe this
  can help you: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bzip2.htm
  
  There are also claims that WinRAR is able to extract BZip2
  files.
 
 WinZIP® http://www.winzip.com/win/en/index.htm is perfectly capable of
 handling the following file types:
 
 Zip (.zip)
 Zipx (.zipx)
 RAR (.rar)
 7Z (.7z)
 BZ2 (.bz, .bz2, .tbz, .tbz2)
 LHA/LZH (.lha, .lzh)
 Cabinet (.cab)
 Disc Image (.img, .iso)
 TAR (.tar)
 GZIP (.gz, .taz, .tgz)
 Compress (.tz, .z)
 UUencode (.uu, .uue)
 XXencode (.xxe)
 MIME (.b64, .mim)
 BinHex (.bhx, .hqx)
 Most other compressed files
 
 I was personally responsible for having the 7Z format added several
 years ago.

I thought that the OP would have used WinZIP as the typical
first candidate, given the fact that .tbz means tar bzip2
archiving and compression. So that program should havve been
fine.



 By the way Poly, FreeBSD does not handle all types of compressed files
 natively any more than Windows does. There are also add-ons available
 to handle some really obscure formats.

It can handle everything that tar, cpio, pax, compress
and (of course bzip2 (belongs to the OS!) and all other
native tools utilizing libarchive addresses. I'm quite
confident that this is a better out of the box support
than what Windows has to offer because handling archives
usually involves manually downloading and installing 3rd
party programs, like WinZIP or WinRAR. Of course I
do not claim all types, e. g. for RAR archives you
also need to have the system install the proper program,
but who uses RAR anyway (except the packagers of warez)... :-)




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doc

2012-08-17 Thread иван кузнецов



how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows? several program cant,i 
was attempt.7zip cant. why i not able read documentation BEFORE install? where 
it after install? second,you installer is not well, not very undersandingable 
for newbis.i mean user must hit tab in some dialogs,but he press enter - 
attempt please.it is not MISTAKE but look mysteriously,and user worry.you shoud 
do only one small step in order to do freebsd more frendly - publish full 
international docs on install dvd -- user only put dvd and see docs in 
browser.its simpler than rewriting os in order to div it more frendly.is it 
true flash work badly or after complex work? i cant write on my writemaster dvd 
drive with freebsd9 - brasero dont see drive.what you can say about it? with 
best regards,ivan,Russia,Moscow.


иван кузнецов.



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Re: doc

2012-08-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:17:42 +0400, иван кузнецов wrote:
 how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows?

The file is a tar archive compressed with BZip2. It's no real
surprise that Windows cannot natively handle it, as with many
established standard formats. :-)



 several program cant,i was attempt.7zip cant.

It's not a 7zip archive; still the 7zip page on http://7-zip.org/
mentions that the BZip2 format is supported.

However, there's BZip2 available for Windows, maybe this
can help you: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bzip2.htm

There are also claims that WinRAR is able to extract BZip2
files.



 why i not able read documentation BEFORE install?

I'd refer to the documentation presented on FreeBSD's web page.
You can easily create a local copy of the HTML subtree using
wget (and yes, there's WGET.EXE even for Windows).

The most important pages are:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/

Check out FreeBSD's main web page for language selection. Here
you can find a russian translation of all those documents:

http://www.freebsd.org/ru/docs.html

Again, it's possible to make a local copy of them which you could
carry on a USB stick or CD for further reference.



 where it after install?

It will be installed into /usr/doc, containing the language variants
and formats.



 second,you installer is not well, not very undersandingable for newbis.

I don't think so. It's very precise in wording and easy to use.
You just have to read what's on the screen and answer accordingly.
A help function is also included.



 i mean user must hit tab in some dialogs,but he press enter - 
 attempt please.

The keyboard support is explained in the first help pages. It's
also mentioned in the Handbook which one should read before or
even while performing the install (if one is unsure about how
the interface works).



 it is not MISTAKE but look mysteriously,and user worry.

That's quite possible. :-)

Users feeling unhappy with the FreeBSD installer often tend
to prefer PC-BSD with its GUI installer and a more lengthly
step by step guide through the installation with much more
interactivity and user attention. As this interface can be
used with a mouse, the distinction between TAB and ENTER is
not that important anymore.



 you shoud do only one small step in order to do freebsd more
 frendly - publish full international docs on install dvd --
 user only put dvd and see docs in browser.

How is a user supposed to have a browser available when putting
the CD into a system he wants to install it on, with _nothing_
on the hard disk?

I agree that the documentation could be accessible via a web
browser from the install media when used in a _different_ computer,
and maybe it should also be accessible in text form during an
early stage of the installer.

However, the purpose of an installation medium is to install
something. The installer does exactly that.



 its simpler than rewriting os in order to div it more frendly.

The OS has basically nothing to do with its installer or the
way help is presented to the user. This is done by programs,
_those_ could be extended or changed.



 is it true flash work badly or after complex work?

No. Outdated stuff like Flash can be quickly and easily installed,
and it works reliably and stable.



 i cant write on my writemaster dvd drive with freebsd9 - brasero
 dont see drive.

Can you provide more information, e. g. what model, how connected,
output of dmesg and so on? Please check the Handbook regarding the
use of optical media. Start with low level diagnostics (i. e.
use OS tools to first check if the drive is detected and attached
to the correct driver), in a next step maybe check your Gnome
and Brasero configuration. If it fails, try a command line tool.
Those are typically easier to use and more comfortable.



 what you can say about it? with best regards,ivan,Russia,Moscow.

MHOrO YCnEXOB! ;-)




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Can't build en-freebsd-doc-20120205

2012-02-11 Thread Mike Clarke

curlew:/home/mike% uname -a
FreeBSD curlew.lan 8.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Sep 27 
16:18:26 UTC 2011 
r...@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

curlew:/home/mike% cd /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en
curlew:/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en% make showconfig
=== The following configuration options are available for 
en-freebsd-doc-20120205:
 HTML=off Single HTML file per document
 HTML_SPLIT=on The default HTML format used on www.FreeBSD.org
 PDF=off PDF format
 PS=off PostScript format
 TXT=off Plain text
=== Use 'make config' to modify these settings

Attempting to build freebsd-doc-en fails as shown below.

curlew:/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en# make
===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
===  Found saved configuration for en-freebsd-doc-20120205
= freebsd-doc-20120205.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist 
in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/blackend/freebsd-doc-20120205.tar.gz
freebsd-doc-20120205.tar.gz   100% of   26 MB  110 kBps 
00m00s
===  Extracting for en-freebsd-doc-20120205
= SHA256 Checksum OK for freebsd-doc-20120205.tar.gz.
===  Patching for en-freebsd-doc-20120205
===   en-freebsd-doc-20120205 depends on package: 
docproj-nojadetex=1.17 - found
===  Configuring for en-freebsd-doc-20120205
===  Building for en-freebsd-doc-20120205
/bin/cat /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-split 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-common 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.extras 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.common 
 /data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/pkg-plist
=== en_US.ISO8859-1 (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap (all)

[snip]

/usr/bin/sed -i -e 's/  /\#09;/g' $(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
/usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml  
$(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
/usr/local/bin/tidy: not found
/usr/bin/sed -i -e 's/  /\#09;/g' $(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
/usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml  
$(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
/usr/local/bin/tidy: not found
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com (all)
/bin/rm -f docbook.css
/bin/cat 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/docbook.css 
 docbook.css
Index is disabled or no index to generate.
Index is disabled or no index to generate.
/usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V 
html-manifest -ioutput.html -d 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/sgml/default.dsl 
-ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V 
%generate-article-toc% -ioutput.html.images   -D 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/../../../share/images/articles/casestudy-argentina.com
 -D 
/usr/obj/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com
 -c 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog
 -c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t 
sgml 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/article.sgml
/usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V 
html-manifest -ioutput.html -d 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/sgml/default.dsl 
-ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V 
%generate-article-toc% -ioutput.html.images   -D 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/../../../share/images/articles/casestudy-argentina.com
 -D 
/usr/obj/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com
 -c 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog
 -c /data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t 
sgml 
/data1/tmp/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/article.sgml
/usr/bin/sed -i -e 's/  /\#09;/g' $(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
/usr/bin/sed -i -e 's/  /\#09;/g' $(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
sed: rename(): No such file or directory
/usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml  
$(/usr/bin/xargs  HTML.manifest)
*** Error code 1
/usr/local/bin/tidy: not found
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc

Re: Can't build en-freebsd-doc-20120205

2012-02-11 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 11 February 2012, Mark wrote:

 I had this a few days ago.

 A search returned keep restarting make install and it will build
 and install.

 You will notice it will stop at different place each time, just
 restart the buld.


Thanks for the tip. It completed on the second pass.

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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-06-02 Thread newsbox
 On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 02:32:37PM +, Joe Altman wrote:

 There is this thread from 2009, and it looks like the same issue as
 the one in this message:

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209892.html

 It looks like I'll need to open a bug report with the Doc project
 team.

 After reading the thread referenced above, and looking at the output
 of my build, I noticed that the build was failing in different areas.

 So I decided to run make on the port multiple times, and eventually
 the port installed successfully. However, the port in my tree (dated #
 $FreeBSD: ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/Makefile,v 1.36 2011/05/22
 14:28:49 blackend Exp $) in a fresh tree made only through
 2010, according to the copyright at the top of the
 handbook. Individual files in that doc tree were variously dated; the
 newest being 8/2010.

 So I ran make, multiple times, on the source; and that gave me a doc
 tree dated 2011. Most of the files there were dated 5/29/11. A few
 exceptions were found in image files dated 3/2010, which all loaded in
 SeaMonkey, except for some files in: advanced-networking, security,
 vinum, geom. I may have missed others in other books.

 To summarize:

 1) It appears that make is, in this case, a hammer that must be
 applied more than once to either the source or the port.

 2) Not all images are seen as valid, and according to make may have
 bad magic numbers. If building from source is used on a fresh tree, it
 may be possible to have make ignore all the errors by using the -k
 flag.

 3) I have no idea how things will go with an upgrade to the doc
 source; I normally use portupgrade, so I suppose I will find out
 later.

 I've submitted a bug report.

 Best regards,

 Joe






Hi,
This might not be the same as an issue I had because I'm not really sure
how the docs are built. I did not have doc in my cvs supfile at first. I
have the following in my cvs supfile:

src-all
ports-all tag=.
doc-all tag=.

And my issue went away if I remember correctly.

Regards,
Mike



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Re[6]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-30 Thread Коньков Евгений

   Hello, Adam.

   That does not help.

   #man locate

   No manual entry for locate

   #

   

   2011/5/29 Kon'kov Evgenij [1]kes-...@yandex.ru

   sorry, but that is not what I am looking for.

   How to install 'man' pages? they are not included in .iso and there
   are not on link you advice.

   I don't know how to install the man pages from the snapshot cd, but if
   you have the source for your version you can do:

   cd /usr/src/share/man

   make install

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   --

   S uvazheniem,

Kon'kov  [2]mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru

References

   1. mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru
   2. mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru
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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Joe Altman
freebsd-annou...@chthonic.comwrote:

 === en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all) groff -p -S -Wall
 -mtty-char -man

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.pic
 

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-branches.ps
 groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.pic
 

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-organization.ps
 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat
 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/docbook.css 
 docbook.css /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER
 -dDELAYSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox
 -sOutputFile=/dev/null

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-branches.ps

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
 21 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER
 -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox -sOutputFile=/dev/null

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-organization.ps

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
 21
 *** Error code 1
 *** Error code 1
 2 errors
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.

 

 Any clues on how to fix this? I chose only split HTML as the output.

 Please feel free to Cc: me as I'm not on the list; but I will check the web
 interface for the list.


Seems like there should be more detail.  Try

make clean  make -j1

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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Joe Altman freebsd-annou...@chthonic.com
  wrote:

 === en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all) groff -p -S -Wall
 -mtty-char -man

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.pic
 

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-branches.ps
 groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.pic
 

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-organization.ps
 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat
 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/docbook.css 
 docbook.css /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER
 -dDELAYSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox
 -sOutputFile=/dev/null

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-branches.ps

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
 21 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER
 -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox -sOutputFile=/dev/null

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/
 freebsd-organization.ps

 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
 21
 *** Error code 1
 *** Error code 1
 2 errors
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.

 

 Any clues on how to fix this? I chose only split HTML as the output.

 Please feel free to Cc: me as I'm not on the list; but I will check the
 web interface for the list.


 Seems like there should be more detail.  Try

 make clean  make -j1


Err, wait the make clean isn't necessary.


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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Altman
 On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Seems like there should be more detail.  Try
 
  make clean  make -j1

Interesting:

===  Building for en-freebsd-doc-20110521
/bin/cat /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-split
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-common
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.extras
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.common 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/pkg-plist
=== en_US.ISO8859-1 (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/bsdl-gpl (all)
=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all)
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
| /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4
-dEPSCrop -r100x100  -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm -sOutputFile=-
-g`/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps`
-  | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.png
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
| /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4
-dEPSCrop -r100x100  -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm -sOutputFile=-
-g`/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps`
-  | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng 
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
Error: no BoundingBox found.
Error: no BoundingBox found.
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
*** Error code 1
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
*** Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1
1 error
*** Error code 2

There is this thread from 2009, and it looks like the same issue as
the one in this message:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209892.html

It looks like I'll need to open a bug report with the Doc project
team.

Thanks for the pointer, Adam.

Best regards,

Joe
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Re[4]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-29 Thread Коньков Евгений

   Zdravstvujte, Adam.

   Vy pisali 29 maya 2011 g., 1:53:41:

   

   2011/5/28 Adam Vande More [1]amvandem...@gmail.com

   2011/5/28 Kon'kov Evgenij [2]kes-...@yandex.ru

   I take snapshot from that. It is not include doc.

   while installing it says: 'Can not find doc packages'

   [3]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/doc
   s/

   You probably want to run the latest RELEASE or STABLE, not CURRENT.
   CURRENT is for individuals who are familiar with FreeBSD and able to
   solve such problems on their own.  The other branches are tested much
   more.

   sorry, but that is not what I am looking for.

   How to install 'man' pages? they are not included in .iso and there
   are not on link you advice.

   --

   S uvazheniem,

Kon'kov  [4]mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru

References

   1. mailto:amvandem...@gmail.com
   2. mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru
   3. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/docs/
   4. mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru
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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Altman
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 02:32:37PM +, Joe Altman wrote:

 There is this thread from 2009, and it looks like the same issue as
 the one in this message:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209892.html
 
 It looks like I'll need to open a bug report with the Doc project
 team.

After reading the thread referenced above, and looking at the output
of my build, I noticed that the build was failing in different areas.

So I decided to run make on the port multiple times, and eventually
the port installed successfully. However, the port in my tree (dated #
$FreeBSD: ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/Makefile,v 1.36 2011/05/22
14:28:49 blackend Exp $) in a fresh tree made only through
2010, according to the copyright at the top of the
handbook. Individual files in that doc tree were variously dated; the
newest being 8/2010.

So I ran make, multiple times, on the source; and that gave me a doc
tree dated 2011. Most of the files there were dated 5/29/11. A few
exceptions were found in image files dated 3/2010, which all loaded in
SeaMonkey, except for some files in: advanced-networking, security,
vinum, geom. I may have missed others in other books.

To summarize: 

1) It appears that make is, in this case, a hammer that must be
applied more than once to either the source or the port.

2) Not all images are seen as valid, and according to make may have
bad magic numbers. If building from source is used on a fresh tree, it
may be possible to have make ignore all the errors by using the -k
flag.

3) I have no idea how things will go with an upgrade to the doc
source; I normally use portupgrade, so I suppose I will find out
later.

I've submitted a bug report.

Best regards,

Joe






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Re: Re[4]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
2011/5/29 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru

 sorry, but that is not what I am looking for.

 How to install 'man' pages? they are not included in .iso and there are not
 on link you advice.

I don't know how to install the man pages from the snapshot cd, but if you
have the source for your version you can do:

cd /usr/src/share/man
make install


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How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-28 Thread Коньков Евгений
Hello
I am trying to install doc from ftp because it is not included in .iso
but also get problem

┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
│ Warning:  Can't find the `9.0-CURRENT' distribution on this │
│ FTP server.  You may need to visit a different server for   │
│ the release you are trying to fetch or go to the Options│
│ menu and to set the release name to explicitly match what's │
│ available on ftp.freebsd.org (or set to any). │
│ │
│ Would you like to select another FTP server?│
├─┤
│[ Yes ] No   │
└─┘

how to install these doc ?
  │ │[ ]  dict  Spelling checker dictionary files │ │
  │ │[X]  doc   FreeBSD Documentation set │ │
  │ │[X]  docuser   Miscellaneous userland docs   │ │
  │ │[ ]  games Games (non-commercial)│ │
  │ │[X]  info  GNU info files│ │
  │ │[X]  man   System manual pages - recommended │ │
  │ │[ ]  catmanPreformatted system manual pages  │ │
  │ │[ ]  proflibs  Profiled versions of the libraries│ │
  │ │[ ]  src   Sources for everything│ │



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Re: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-28 Thread Lokadamus

Am 28.05.2011 20:46, schrieb Коньков Евгений:

Hello
I am trying to install doc from ftp because it is not included in .iso
but also get problem

 ┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
 │ Warning:  Can't find the `9.0-CURRENT' distribution on this │
 │ FTP server.  You may need to visit a different server for   │
 │ the release you are trying to fetch or go to the Options│
 │ menu and to set the release name to explicitly match what's │
 │ available on ftp.freebsd.org (or set to any). │
 │ │
 │ Would you like to select another FTP server?│
 ├─┤
 │[ Yes ] No   │
 └─┘

how to install these doc ?
   │ │[ ]  dict  Spelling checker dictionary files │ │
   │ │[X]  doc   FreeBSD Documentation set │ │
   │ │[X]  docuser   Miscellaneous userland docs   │ │
   │ │[ ]  games Games (non-commercial)│ │
   │ │[X]  info  GNU info files│ │
   │ │[X]  man   System manual pages - recommended │ │
   │ │[ ]  catmanPreformatted system manual pages  │ │
   │ │[ ]  proflibs  Profiled versions of the libraries│ │
   │ │[ ]  src   Sources for everything│ │


Take a snapshot: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/

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Re[2]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-28 Thread Коньков Евгений
Здравствуйте, Lokadamus.

Вы писали 28 мая 2011 г., 22:01:40:

L Am 28.05.2011 20:46, schrieb Коньков Евгений:
 Hello
 I am trying to install doc from ftp because it is not included in .iso
 but also get problem

  ┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
  │ Warning:  Can't find the `9.0-CURRENT' distribution on this │
  │ FTP server.  You may need to visit a different server for   │
  │ the release you are trying to fetch or go to the Options│
  │ menu and to set the release name to explicitly match what's │
  │ available on ftp.freebsd.org (or set to any). │
  │ │
  │ Would you like to select another FTP server?│
  ├─┤
  │[ Yes ] No   │
  └─┘

 how to install these doc ?
│ │[ ]  dict  Spelling checker dictionary files │ │
│ │[X]  doc   FreeBSD Documentation set │ │
│ │[X]  docuser   Miscellaneous userland docs   │ │
│ │[ ]  games Games (non-commercial)│ │
│ │[X]  info  GNU info files│ │
│ │[X]  man   System manual pages - recommended │ │
│ │[ ]  catmanPreformatted system manual pages  │ │
│ │[ ]  proflibs  Profiled versions of the libraries│ │
│ │[ ]  src   Sources for everything│ │

L Take a snapshot: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/

I take snapshot from that. It is not include doc.
while installing it says: 'Can not find doc packages'



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Re: Re[2]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-28 Thread Adam Vande More
2011/5/28 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru

 I take snapshot from that. It is not include doc.
 while installing it says: 'Can not find doc packages'


ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/docs/

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Re: Re[2]: How to install doc for 9-CURRENT

2011-05-28 Thread Adam Vande More
2011/5/28 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com

 2011/5/28 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru

 I take snapshot from that. It is not include doc.
 while installing it says: 'Can not find doc packages'


 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-current/docs/


You probably want to run the latest RELEASE or STABLE, not CURRENT.  CURRENT
is for individuals who are familiar with FreeBSD and able to solve such
problems on their own.  The other branches are tested much more.

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Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Altman
Greetings...

 uname -a
FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 8.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p4
#0: Sat May 28 21:25:00 EDT 2011
r...@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER  amd64

Sources, including ports, updated on May 28 after the bind security
notice. 

Here is the tail of the error:



=== en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all) groff -p -S -Wall 
-mtty-char -man
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.pic

/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps
groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.pic

/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.ps
/bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/docbook.css 
docbook.css /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER
-dDELAYSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox
-sOutputFile=/dev/null
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
21 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER
-sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox -sOutputFile=/dev/null
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.ps
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
21
*** Error code 1
*** Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.



Any clues on how to fix this? I chose only split HTML as the output.

Please feel free to Cc: me as I'm not on the list; but I will check the web 
interface for the list.

Thank you for any help, and best regards,

Joe
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-28 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 27 May 2010 16:36:08 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   i don't see any ascii suffix [for OOo].  i saved as .txt.

This should be right. The .txt extension refers to ASCII text,
at least in standard-compliant operating systems.



   same krap.  the \x94, x9d, \x9c...  same with catdoc.  i'll
   try antiword.  [forgot about that.  ]

This makes me believe that the original DOC file has been created
with a wrong character set or language setting. Windows - as far
as I know - does not use standard locales such as all other systems
do, but uses an arbitrary setting.

Another idea may be that the character that you think should be
an apostrophe isn't an apostrophe. I often do see this in german
texts with misplaces apostrophes that are in fact accent grave
or accent acute, or a character from UTF-8 that just looks like
an apostrophe. For example, if the original document contains

We don`t

and this ` is not a real ', then conversion tools will of course
use the escape notation for this unknown character. Other
characters that may lead to such escape notation replacements
can be quotation marks (usually typographical ones), ellipsis
and hyphens.

I know I'm saying this too often, but you wouldn't have such
problems with LaTeX. :-)



  I'm not sure in how far conflicting codepages may be involved.
  It is known that Windows does have problems supporting standards,
  and this applies to character sets and language variations, too.
  
 
   your words could be emblazoned in 24k gold on some Monument
   of Truth. 

It's my job - I'm working for the Ministry of Truth. :-)



 i've been fighting going for mac to OOo and back...

Keep on fighting - I've got a new idea. It's much more complicated
than using OpenOffice for conversion - but it MIGHT work.

1. Open the DOC file in OpenOffice.

2. Mark all content you want to convert, e. g. Ctrl+A.

3. Get it into edit buffer, Ctrl+C.

4. Open KDE's text editor (or any other text editor you have
   installed), output the edit buffer, Ctrl+V.

5. Save the file you now got in the editor. It should be all in
   ASCII and with correct interpretation of special characters.

Because I don't have a test setting here, I cannot predict that
it will compensate malformed codings, but if OpenOffice shows a
character as an apostrophe, it should be transferred exactly as
that through the edit buffer.



   ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
   that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.  

The joy of modern programs: You start to do everything manually
again. :-)




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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-28 Thread Bob Hall
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:53:39PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Thursday 27 May 2010 05:18:07 pm Bob Hall wrote:
  On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
 that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.
  
  Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters,
  and fixing the few characters that remain with sed?
 
 exactly!!!

Another possibility, if you haven't considered it, is using sed to
convert everything. If you know all the characters that need to be
swapped out, you can write a sed script that will do it for you in one
pass. If you don't know sed, creating the script may be a PITA, but
you'll only have to do it once, and then you can reuse the script
whenever needed.

As I recall, the hard part is figuring out how to represent the special
characters in sed. It's been a few years since I used sed on doc files,
but I recall that the character codes that displayed on my screen were
not the codes that I needed to use in sed scripts.
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-28 Thread Bob Hall
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:45:38AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote:
 Another possibility, if you haven't considered it, is using sed to
 convert everything. If you know all the characters that need to be

Never mind. I just remembered about the garbage at the beginning of doc
files. I had forgotten that I using both sed and awk to deal with that when I
was working with doc files.
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-28 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2010 16:36:08 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

i don't see any ascii suffix [for OOo].  i saved as .txt.


This should be right. The .txt extension refers to ASCII text,
at least in standard-compliant operating systems.




same krap.  the \x94, x9d, \x9c...  same with catdoc.  i'll
try antiword.  [forgot about that.  ]


This makes me believe that the original DOC file has been created
with a wrong character set or language setting. Windows - as far
as I know - does not use standard locales such as all other systems
do, but uses an arbitrary setting.



It is a valid UTF-8 encoded text:
[...@moby ~]$ python -c 'print Don%c%c%ct % (0xe2, 0x80, 0x99)' | file -
/dev/stdin: UTF-8 Unicode text

You'll be able to see the character if you fire up a UTF-8 capable 
terminal with proper locale settings.

[...@moby ~]$ LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 xterm -u8

After that, just print the char:
python -c 'print Don%c%c%ct % (0xe2, 0x80, 0x99)'
and use copy  paste to pass it to tr to translate it to something else, 
for example:

tr ' '  $file  $output


Another idea may be that the character that you think should be
an apostrophe isn't an apostrophe. I often do see this in german
texts with misplaces apostrophes that are in fact accent grave
or accent acute, or a character from UTF-8 that just looks like
an apostrophe. For example, if the original document contains

We don`t

and this ` is not a real ', then conversion tools will of course
use the escape notation for this unknown character.


Indeed, the standard tool for encoding translations, iconv, chocks on 
this. Yet, it worked when I tried to convert from utf-8 to greek 
encoding('iconv -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-7'). Some info on the char:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2019/index.htm

HTH, Nikos
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-28 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:45:38AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:53:39PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  On Thursday 27 May 2010 05:18:07 pm Bob Hall wrote:
   On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.
   
   Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters,
   and fixing the few characters that remain with sed?
  
  exactly!!!
 
 Another possibility, if you haven't considered it, is using sed to
 convert everything. If you know all the characters that need to be
 swapped out, you can write a sed script that will do it for you in one
 pass. If you don't know sed, creating the script may be a PITA, but
 you'll only have to do it once, and then you can reuse the script
 whenever needed.
 
 As I recall, the hard part is figuring out how to represent the special
 characters in sed. It's been a few years since I used sed on doc files,
 but I recall that the character codes that displayed on my screen were
 not the codes that I needed to use in sed scripts.


the DOC file i was trying to convert is only around 250 line
[ ascii ] and i finished it, kwik-and-dirty with perl, sed,
and vi's regex.  it prob'ly isn't worth merely complaining
about.  doing it one time will, as you point out, let me
reuse the script hundred of time.  

(i bot a sed and awk book few years ago.  time to get
serious!)

tx much

gary


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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-27 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 05:03:02AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:38:47 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  
  
  guys,
  
  is there anything that can take these hex triplets such as
  
  We Don\xe2\x80\x99t
  
  and render them back to the ascii or keyboard equivalents?
  in this case, the \x99 would be an apostrophe.
  thus:
  
  
  We Don't
  
  tia,
  
  gsry
  
  ps: even lynx -dump messes up, i believe.  i'm trying to go from
  DOC  back to typewriter 
 
 
 Yes, even a typewriter is better than DOC. :-)
 



man, you got that right!!


 To process DOC files into ASCII, there are several ways, with
 different complexity:
 
 Most complex ones: Use OpenOffice or Abiword, open the file and
 save it as ASCII. Included special characters should be in
 regular ASCII representation now.
 
 Better: Use (from ports) catdoc or antiword.
 


i don't see any ascii suffix [for OOo].  i saved as .txt.
same krap.  the \x94, x9d, \x9c...  same with catdoc.  i'll
try antiword.  [forgot about that.  ]

 I'm not sure in how far conflicting codepages may be involved.
 It is known that Windows does have problems supporting standards,
 and this applies to character sets and language variations, too.
 

your words could be emblazoned in 24k gold on some Monument
of Truth.  i've been fighting going for mac to OOo and back...
(**)

thanks.

gary

ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.  

pps::: 

 
 
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-27 Thread Bob Hall
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
   that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.  
Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters,
and fixing the few characters that remain with sed?
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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-27 Thread Gary Kline
On Thursday 27 May 2010 05:18:07 pm Bob Hall wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  ps: antiword same as catdoc.  back to my per substitutions.
  that works, along with vi's Builtin subs.
 
 Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters,
 and fixing the few characters that remain with sed?

exactly!!!

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any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-26 Thread Gary Kline


guys,

is there anything that can take these hex triplets such as

We Don\xe2\x80\x99t

and render them back to the ascii or keyboard equivalents?
in this case, the \x99 would be an apostrophe.
thus:


We Don't

tia,

gsry

ps: even lynx -dump messes up, i believe.  i'm trying to go from
DOC  back to typewriter 



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Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?

2010-05-26 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:38:47 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
 
 guys,
 
 is there anything that can take these hex triplets such as
 
 We Don\xe2\x80\x99t
 
 and render them back to the ascii or keyboard equivalents?
 in this case, the \x99 would be an apostrophe.
 thus:
 
 
 We Don't
 
 tia,
 
 gsry
 
 ps: even lynx -dump messes up, i believe.  i'm trying to go from
 DOC  back to typewriter 


Yes, even a typewriter is better than DOC. :-)

To process DOC files into ASCII, there are several ways, with
different complexity:

Most complex ones: Use OpenOffice or Abiword, open the file and
save it as ASCII. Included special characters should be in
regular ASCII representation now.

Better: Use (from ports) catdoc or antiword.

I'm not sure in how far conflicting codepages may be involved.
It is known that Windows does have problems supporting standards,
and this applies to character sets and language variations, too.



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8.0 and freebsd-doc native languages

2010-02-18 Thread n dhert
I installed a new 8.0 from the DVD and the ports collection.
Did a portsnap update, pkg_version -vIL reported 21 ports to upgrade of
which 19
XX-freebsd-doc-20100213  (XX = two letters identifying a native language)
I throught this would just install preformatted files, so started the 21
ports
upgrade.  Now this is running already for over 4 hours... and installed at
least
a 100 other dependent packages.

Why does 8.0 insist on having all these native language docs (which most
users
do not need) ? In 7.2 install this did not happen.
Can I safely remove all the other XX-freebsd.doc (except en-freebsd-doc),
packages?
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Re: freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-23 Thread ajtiM
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 01:42:32 you wrote:
 On 23/12/2009 2:03 π.μ., ajtiM wrote:
  My system: FreeBSD 8.0

 
 Something to do with the new Ghostscript version, most of the doc
 package builds are broken. I was pointed to this patch
 http://paste.lisp.org/display/92500 and it continued for a while but it
 errored out again with a different message (Bounding box not found).
 Still, you may wish to give it a try.
 

I didn't try a patch because there are a new version but now I have a new 
problem:

../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
Error: no BoundingBox found.
*** Error code 1
== Warning: BoundingBox not found!
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.

=== make failed for misc/freebsd-doc-en
=== Aborting update

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Re: freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-23 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 23/12/2009 10:54 μ.μ., ajtiM wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 December 2009 01:42:32 you wrote:
   
 On 23/12/2009 2:03 π.μ., ajtiM wrote:
 
 My system: FreeBSD 8.0
   
   
 Something to do with the new Ghostscript version, most of the doc
 package builds are broken. I was pointed to this patch
 http://paste.lisp.org/display/92500 and it continued for a while but it
 errored out again with a different message (Bounding box not found).
 Still, you may wish to give it a try.

 
 I didn't try a patch because there are a new version but now I have a new 
 problem:

 ../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
 Error: no BoundingBox found.
 pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
 Error: no BoundingBox found.
 *** Error code 1
 == Warning: BoundingBox not found!
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
   

Same here. The patch resolves the first problem but not this.
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freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-22 Thread ajtiM
My system: FreeBSD 8.0

I had a problem with update freebsd-doc-en

**
Error: /undefinedfilename in --file--   
   
Operand stack:  
   
   (/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-
products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-
organization.eps)   (r) 
  
Execution stack:
   
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1862   1   3   %oparray_pop   1861  
 
1   3   %oparray_pop   1845   1   3   %oparray_pop   1739   1   3   
%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1155/1684(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:77/200(L)--   --
dict:10/25(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
Current file position is 8177
GPL Ghostscript 8.70: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
Error: /undefinedfilename in --file--
Operand stack:
   (/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-
products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-
branches.eps)   (r)
Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1862   1   3   %oparray_pop   1861  
 
1   3   %oparray_pop   1845   1   3   %oparray_pop   1739   1   3   
%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --
nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1155/1684(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:77/200(L)--   --
dict:10/25(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
Current file position is 8177
GPL Ghostscript 8.70: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
*** Error code 1
*** Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*

I have checked html_split and pdf. Now I deinstall and try to install again 
but I got the same error.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 23/12/2009 2:03 π.μ., ajtiM wrote:
 My system: FreeBSD 8.0

 I had a problem with update freebsd-doc-en

 **
 Error: /undefinedfilename in --file-- 
  
 Operand stack:
  
(/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-
 products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-
 organization.eps)   (r)   
 
 Execution stack:  
  
%interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1862   1   3   %oparray_pop   
 1861   
 1   3   %oparray_pop   1845   1   3   %oparray_pop   1739   1   3   
 %oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval-- 
   
 --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   --nostringval--
 Dictionary stack:
--dict:1155/1684(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:77/200(L)--   --
 dict:10/25(L)--
 Current allocation mode is local
 Last OS error: 2
 Current file position is 8177
 GPL Ghostscript 8.70: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
 Error: /undefinedfilename in --file--
 Operand stack:
(/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-
 products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-
 branches.eps)   (r)
 Execution stack:
%interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1862   1   3   %oparray_pop   
 1861   
 1   3   %oparray_pop   1845   1   3   %oparray_pop   1739   1   3   
 %oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval-- 
   
 --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --
 nostringval--   --nostringval--
 Dictionary stack:
--dict:1155/1684(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:77/200(L)--   --
 dict:10/25(L)--
 Current allocation mode is local
 Last OS error: 2
 Current file position is 8177
 GPL Ghostscript 8.70: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
 *** Error code 1
 *** Error code 1
 2 errors
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
 *

 I have checked html_split and pdf. Now I deinstall and try to install again 
 but I got the same error.

 Thanks in advance.
   

Something to do with the new Ghostscript version, most of the doc
package builds are broken. I was pointed to this patch
http://paste.lisp.org/display/92500 and it continued for a while but it
errored out again with a different message (Bounding box not found).
Still, you may wish to give it a try.
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How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread Mikel King
Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in  
limited space? I have a project that requires enough of running system  
with lighttpd and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep  
the thing below 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for  
whatever the smallest I can get away with.


Thanks, in advance.

Cheers.
m

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Re: How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
excuse-me, but what is the problem
with size???

I have a PQI stick that is 29mm X 11mm X 2.5mm and
have 4gbytes... and works very good... sells for US$12 here...

take a look: 
http://www.pqigroup.com/product2.asp?oid=19cate1=19proid=333

you have inside 4Bg of storage..   usb2.0  



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Re: How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread Mikel King


On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:


excuse-me, but what is the problem
with size???

I have a PQI stick that is 29mm X 11mm X 2.5mm and
have 4gbytes... and works very good... sells for US$12 here...

take a look:
http://www.pqigroup.com/product2.asp?oid=19cate1=19proid=333

you have inside 4Bg of storage..   usb2.0



The problem is that my client has mandated that it be below 640MB so I  
can not, as much as I would prefer, use a 4GB stick.

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Re: How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 03:19:17PM -0400, Mikel King wrote:
 Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in
 limited space? I have a project that requires enough of running system
 with lighttpd and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep
 the thing below 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for
 whatever the smallest I can get away with.

Have you tried it yet? Once Upon A Time Not So Long Ago, 512MB was a
*huge* system disk.

And as others have pointed out much larger USB stick is cheap. So how
many hours are you willing to spend to save $12?

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Re: How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/7/27 Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com:
 Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in limited
 space? I have a project that requires enough of running system with lighttpd
 and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep the thing below
 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for whatever the smallest
 I can get away with.

 Thanks, in advance.

 Cheers.
 m


I'm going to try to answer your question rather than tell you you're
wrong. It's possible, and not difficult.

Option 1) I'm pretty sure a default install of FreeBSD covers a little
less than 640 MB; have you just tried that?

[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% df -h /
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a421M203M185M52%/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc /boot/xboxkern.0/
112M/boot/xboxkern.0/
112Mtotal
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc bin include lib sbin share games libdata

snip

292Mshare/doc

snip

428Mtotal
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr%

So, excluding /usr/share/doc, and /boot/xboxkern.0 (a leftover from
when amnesiac was an xbox), my install with no ports etc is
~203-112=91MB for /, 428-292=136MB for /usr, plus /var and /tmp (both
minimal if properly managed and trimmed) makes ~250 MB; way less than
the 500 MB specified. You could probably even install Apache on that!

If I've missed anything glaringly obvious, please correct me someone

Option 2) Try http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html

Chris



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Re: How to doc available?

2009-07-27 Thread Mikel King


On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Chris Rees wrote:


2009/7/27 Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com:
Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in  
limited
space? I have a project that requires enough of running system with  
lighttpd
and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep the thing  
below
512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for whatever the  
smallest

I can get away with.

Thanks, in advance.

Cheers.
m



I'm going to try to answer your question rather than tell you you're
wrong. It's possible, and not difficult.

Option 1) I'm pretty sure a default install of FreeBSD covers a little
less than 640 MB; have you just tried that?

[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% df -h /
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a421M203M185M52%/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc /boot/xboxkern.0/
112M/boot/xboxkern.0/
112Mtotal
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc bin include lib sbin share games libdata

snip

292Mshare/doc

snip

428Mtotal
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr%

So, excluding /usr/share/doc, and /boot/xboxkern.0 (a leftover from
when amnesiac was an xbox), my install with no ports etc is
~203-112=91MB for /, 428-292=136MB for /usr, plus /var and /tmp (both
minimal if properly managed and trimmed) makes ~250 MB; way less than
the 500 MB specified. You could probably even install Apache on that!

If I've missed anything glaringly obvious, please correct me  
someone


Option 2) Try http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/ 
index.html


Chris




Chris,

Thank you for your detailed answer. Most appreciated as is the URL to  
nanobsd so that I can RTFM...


Cheers,
m!

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RE: need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.

2009-01-23 Thread Mbung Linux
thank's
 - Original Message -
 From: Johann Kois jk...@freebsd.org
 To: 'Mbung Linux' mbung.li...@linuxmail.org, d...@freebsd.org
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.
 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:18:06 +0100
 
 
 Hi,
 
 try using one of the http mirrors instead if you are not allowed to access
 ftp sites.  You can find a list here:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html.
 Look for one which has the comment (http) after its name.  For example
 http://ftp2.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/.  There is a subdirectory doc
 which contains all the documentation for all available languages.
 
 
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  Sent: Donnerstag, 22. Jänner 2009 13:32
  To: d...@freebsd.org
  Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.
 
  hello i'm from indonesia.i really want to try freebsd,but my office
  have a proxy...
  it very sucks..i can't download u'r documentation at
  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/
  so please send tutorial in pdf or doc that i can learn more about it
 
  Thank's a lot.
 
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need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.

2009-01-22 Thread Mbung Linux
hello i'm from indonesia.i really want to try freebsd,but my office have a 
proxy...
it very sucks..i can't download u'r documentation at 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/
so please send tutorial in pdf or doc that i can learn more about it

Thank's a lot.

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RE: need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.

2009-01-22 Thread Johann Kois
Hi,

try using one of the http mirrors instead if you are not allowed to access
ftp sites.  You can find a list here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html.
Look for one which has the comment (http) after its name.  For example
http://ftp2.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/.  There is a subdirectory doc
which contains all the documentation for all available languages.


Johann


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 To: d...@freebsd.org
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: need Tutorial IN Pdf or Doc.
 
 hello i'm from indonesia.i really want to try freebsd,but my office
 have a proxy...
 it very sucks..i can't download u'r documentation at
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/
 so please send tutorial in pdf or doc that i can learn more about it
 
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obsolete /usr/share/doc/handbook ?

2008-12-31 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I update my local FBSD documentation with cvsup doc-all.
I note that the latest FBSD documentation is under /usr/doc.
However I still have /usr/share/doc which is about 2 years out of date.

On the other hand /usr/doc does not appear in hier(7),
whereas /usr/share/doc does.

Can I safely delete the obsolete docs under /usr/share/doc?
Why are there two doc folders?

many thanks
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SOLVED: Re: obsolete /usr/share/doc/handbook ?

2008-12-31 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 01:30:48PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I update my local FBSD documentation with cvsup doc-all.
 I note that the latest FBSD documentation is under /usr/doc.
 However I still have /usr/share/doc which is about 2 years out of date.
 
 On the other hand /usr/doc does not appear in hier(7),
 whereas /usr/share/doc does.
 
 Can I safely delete the obsolete docs under /usr/share/doc?
 Why are there two doc folders?

sorry, rushed to ask before trying. I get it now.
/usr/doc - sources for all docs. Doing make install puts the
html docs under /usr/share/doc.

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Re: obsolete /usr/share/doc/handbook ?

2008-12-31 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk writes:

 I update my local FBSD documentation with cvsup doc-all.
 I note that the latest FBSD documentation is under /usr/doc.
 However I still have /usr/share/doc which is about 2 years out of date.

 On the other hand /usr/doc does not appear in hier(7),
 whereas /usr/share/doc does.

 Can I safely delete the obsolete docs under /usr/share/doc?
 Why are there two doc folders?

What you have downloaded is the source from which the docs are built.  
If you want to build them yourself, the directions are in the FreeBSD
Documentation Project primer (which is in the books section of the
documentation; I'd recommend you read it on the web -- for example,
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ --
until you have a more recent local copy).

If you aren't planning on building the documents yourself, just download
them from the ftp sites.  Every document includes a suggestion to do so
from 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/
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Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Bernard Dugas

Hi,

When i look at / in a standard installation like :
FreeBSD XXX 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
2008 r...@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


There is only 1 file, named entropy :

-rw---   1 root  wheel  4096 Dec 11 17:36 entropy

I can't find any reference to that file in FreeBSD doc.

Any reference to it ? What is it used for ? I have look in RANDOM area, 
but no reference...


Do i have to keep it read/write ? Can i put it in /var instead of / to 
be able to keep / read-only ?


Thanks a lot,
Best regards,



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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 02:08:10PM +0100, Bernard Dugas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When i look at / in a standard installation like :
 FreeBSD XXX 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
 2008 r...@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 There is only 1 file, named entropy :
 
 -rw---   1 root  wheel  4096 Dec 11 17:36 entropy
 
 I can't find any reference to that file in FreeBSD doc.
 
 Any reference to it ? What is it used for ? I have look in RANDOM area, 
 but no reference...
 
 Do i have to keep it read/write ? Can i put it in /var instead of / to 
 be able to keep / read-only ?

It is used to safely seed the random number generator, I believe.

A quick search through /etc/rc.d/* and /etc/defaults/rc.conf reveals
that you can set $entropy_file in /etc/rc.conf to anything you like, 
although a comment suggests

  # Set to NO to disable caching entropy through reboots.
  # /var/db/entropy-file is preferred if / is not avail.

So yes, it seems you could move it off / if you want.

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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Bernard Dugas

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

-rw---   1 root  wheel  4096 Dec 11 17:36 entropy

I can't find any reference to that file in FreeBSD doc.
Any reference to it ? What is it used for ? I have look in RANDOM 
area, but no reference...


at startup it seeds random generator, every 11 minutes and at shutdown 
it's saved from random generator.


it's here to make random generator more random - not starting clean at 
boot.


Thanks a lot !

1- How may i suggest/learn to add this info in the random generator man 
page, so that a search in doc gives the right result ?


2- As / will be mounted read-only, how can i tell the ramdom generator 
to put this /entropy file somewhere in /var, where i think it should be 
? Or is there any tricky hidden problem ?


Thanks a lot,
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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:07:48 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 at startup it seeds random generator, every 11 minutes and at
 shutdown it's saved from random generator.

Only at shutdown, the entropy stored every eleven minutes is
in  /var/db/entropy/
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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

boot.


Thanks a lot !

1- How may i suggest/learn to add this info in the random generator man page, 
so that a search in doc gives the right result ?


use sent-pr




2- As / will be mounted read-only, how can i tell the ramdom generator to put 
this /entropy file somewhere in /var, where i think it should be ? Or is 
there any tricky hidden problem ?


man rc.conf

seek entropy_file and entropy_dir
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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

shutdown it's saved from random generator.


Only at shutdown, the entropy stored every eleven minutes is
in  /var/db/entropy/


thanks for correction.


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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:23:05 +0100
Bernard Dugas bern...@dugas-family.org wrote:


 2- As / will be mounted read-only, how can i tell the ramdom
 generator to put this /entropy file somewhere in /var, where i think
 it should be ? Or is there any tricky hidden problem ?

It has to be on the root partition as it's used in the early stage of
the boot before any other partitions are mounted, but like like I said
there are other entropy files that are applied a little later as a
boot, and on most machines enough entropy will be generated from
the disk interrupts to suffice anyway.
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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:08:10 +0100
Bernard Dugas bern...@dugas-family.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When i look at / in a standard installation like :
 FreeBSD XXX 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52
 UTC 2008 r...@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386
 
 There is only 1 file, named entropy :
 
 -rw---   1 root  wheel  4096 Dec 11 17:36 entropy
 
 I can't find any reference to that file in FreeBSD doc.
 

It contains random numbers that are written-out at shutdown and used to
seed /dev/random on the next boot.

 
 Do i have to keep it read/write ? Can i put it in /var instead of /
 to be able to keep / read-only ?

It has to be on the root-partition, if it's going to be used. 

You can set entropy_file=NO if you don't want it. There are additional
entropy files under /var, and the system generates it's own entropy
during the boot stage, which is good enough for normal cases.
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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar


-rw---   1 root  wheel  4096 Dec 11 17:36 entropy

I can't find any reference to that file in FreeBSD doc.

Any reference to it ? What is it used for ? I have look in RANDOM area, but 
no reference...


at startup it seeds random generator, every 11 minutes and at shutdown 
it's saved from random generator.


it's here to make random generator more random - not starting clean at 
boot.

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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Bernard Dugas

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
2- As / will be mounted read-only, how can i tell the ramdom generator 
to put this /entropy file somewhere in /var, where i think it should 
be ? Or is there any tricky hidden problem ?


man rc.conf  seek entropy_file and entropy_dir


Thanks, detail is available in /etc/default/rc.conf :

entropy_file=/entropy # Set to NO to disable caching entropy through 
reboots.
# /var/db/entropy-file is preferred if / is not 
avail.


It means that i can put it in /var when L is read-only. There should be 
no problem as the file is choosen in rc.conf, so after /var is mounted.


As this is for diskless station, it would be fun to change the entropy 
file through the nfs server RANDOM, even better thant at each boot :-)


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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread Bernard Dugas
Thank you RW, i am new on the list, i didn't answer you because i didn't 
received your answer while i received others, don't know why yet.


I would be very interested to find a large but right view in the man 
documentation of what is happening exactly to this poor lost file :-)


The etc/default/rc.conf detailled file is not searchable in the man 
page, nor the default /entropy file.


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Re: Any doc reference on /entropy file ?

2008-12-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:39:56 +0100
Bernard Dugas bern...@dugas-family.org wrote:

 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  2- As / will be mounted read-only, how can i tell the ramdom
  generator to put this /entropy file somewhere in /var, where i
  think it should be ? Or is there any tricky hidden problem ?
  
  man rc.conf  seek entropy_file and entropy_dir
 
 Thanks, detail is available in /etc/default/rc.conf :
 
 entropy_file=/entropy # Set to NO to disable caching entropy
 through reboots.
  # /var/db/entropy-file is preferred if / is
 not avail.
 
 It means that i can put it in /var when L is read-only. There should
 be no problem as the file is choosen in rc.conf, so after /var is
 mounted.

Whatever it says in /etc/default/rc.conf, /entropy is read before /var
is mounted.  
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where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread William Bulley
I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Re: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

are you using 7.0-RELEASE--bootonly.iso or 7.0-RELEASE--Disc1.iso

the later has the files on it and can be installed without any network 
connection at all.


-Sean



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Subject: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, 
ports,src, etc. for 7.0-REL?



I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Re: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread William Bulley
According to Sean Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 are you using 7.0-RELEASE--bootonly.iso or 7.0-RELEASE--Disc1.iso
 
 the later has the files on it and can be installed without any network 
 connection at all.

Thanks.

I have 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and burned it onto a CD-ROM,
but that didn't seem to work either.  I will try it again...

It is curious why the contents of the ISOs is not listed
somewhere.  The only way I could find to inspect them was:

# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f whatever.iso -u 0
# mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt

which is from section 18.6.2 of the Handbook.

Regards,

web...

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RE: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread Terry Sposato
Hi William,

Look here -- ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64/7.0

That is where I obtained the ISO's from.

Regards,

Terry

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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports,
src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Re: ipfw(8) doc bug?

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:07:19 +0100 Daniel Gerzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Monday, January 21, 2008, 2:42:53 PM, you wrote:
  
   I was just browsing various versions of ipfw(8) such as:
  
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-stableformat=html
  
   and noticed that (and 6.3-RELEASE) manuals sport 'FreeBSD 7.0' footers,
   however the proper FreeBSD 7 manual includes the new 'ipfw nat' section,
   so is different in at least that respect.
  
  As far as I know, this isn't a bug. The reason why you see FreeBSD
  7.0 in the footer is that the machine, which is serving the online
  manuals is running 7.0, but the real content of the man page is the
  same as you will find in the 6.3-RELEASE.

Ah that explains it, thanks Daniel.  Strangely perhaps, the 4.10 online
manual did say 4.10, but various others - before and since - say 7.0 ..
they all seem to have the original dates in the footers.  Saves a PR :)

cheers, Ian

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ipfw(8) doc bug?

2008-01-21 Thread Ian Smith
I was just browsing various versions of ipfw(8) such as:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-stableformat=html

and noticed that (and 6.3-RELEASE) manuals sport 'FreeBSD 7.0' footers,
however the proper FreeBSD 7 manual includes the new 'ipfw nat' section,
so is different in at least that respect.

Worthy of a docs? or www? PR, or maybe just a transient release glitch?

cheers, Ian

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Re: ipfw(8) doc bug?

2008-01-21 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Ian,

Monday, January 21, 2008, 2:42:53 PM, you wrote:

 I was just browsing various versions of ipfw(8) such as:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-stableformat=html

 and noticed that (and 6.3-RELEASE) manuals sport 'FreeBSD 7.0' footers,
 however the proper FreeBSD 7 manual includes the new 'ipfw nat' section,
 so is different in at least that respect.

As far as I know, this isn't a bug. The reason why you see FreeBSD
7.0 in the footer is that the machine, which is serving the online
manuals is running 7.0, but the real content of the man page is the
same as you will find in the 6.3-RELEASE.

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Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread Ralf Schreijer
Hi there!

Today I just installed FreeBSD(6.1) for the first time in my life. After 
several tries on my own I decided to go through the installation by following 
the instructions in the handbook. I successfully installed and configured Xorg. 
Everything went well, until I reached the section 5.6.2, Using XDM. I just 
tried to follow the instructions and enabled xdm to start running on the 9th 
virtual terminal by replacing the off by on in /etc/ttys:
ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure
in
ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure

Now I can't do anything. The system directly boots into the xdm, prompts a 
loginscreen and if I login as root (or as a user) there is nothing I can do. As 
I know now there isn't even a chance to leave the xdm. If I hit 
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, it flips into the shell an returns immediately to xdm and 
prompts the login again. I tried fixing this  through booting in Single User 
Mode, but I wasn't successful because I have no write permission in /etc/ttys 
during this mode.

I bet it won't be the only solution to reinstall the entire system, isn't it? 
Since I followed the Documentiation from Install until section 5.6.2, Imho, 
there is a small warning missing in the documentation. Sth like this: Beware 
of enabling the xdm-virtual-terminal because you can only return to the shell 
while doing sth you dont know yet :-).

May be you can find some time to send me a feedback or some kind of solution to 
fix my problem.
Thanks so long.

Ralf

PS: I'm sorry for my english. I hope you could even understand me!
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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:09:58 +0100 Ralf Schreijer wrote:

 Today I just installed FreeBSD(6.1) for the first time in my
 life. After several tries on my own I decided to go through the
 installation by following the instructions in the handbook. I
 successfully installed and configured Xorg. Everything went well,
 until I reached the section 5.6.2, Using XDM. I just tried to follow
 the instructions and enabled xdm to start running on the 9th virtual
 terminal by replacing the off by on in /etc/ttys: ttyv8
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm off secure in ttyv8
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm on secure

 Now I can't do anything. The system directly boots into the xdm,
 prompts a loginscreen and if I login as root (or as a user) there is
 nothing I can do. As I know now there isn't even a chance to leave the
 xdm. If I hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, it flips into the shell an returns
 immediately to xdm and prompts the login again. I tried fixing this
 through booting in Single User Mode, but I wasn't successful because I
 have no write permission in /etc/ttys during this mode.

Seems, you are interested in doing ctrl-alt-F1 to return to your
console.


WBR
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Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone  Internet SP
FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Ralf Schreijer wrote:
 Hi there!
 
 Today I just installed FreeBSD(6.1) for the first time in my life. After 
 several tries on my own I decided to go through the installation by following 
 the instructions in the handbook. I successfully installed and configured 
 Xorg. Everything went well, until I reached the section 5.6.2, Using XDM. I 
 just tried to follow the instructions and enabled xdm to start running on the 
 9th virtual terminal by replacing the off by on in /etc/ttys:
 ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure
 in
 ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure
 
 Now I can't do anything. The system directly boots into the xdm, prompts a 
 loginscreen and if I login as root (or as a user) there is nothing I can do. 
 As I know now there isn't even a chance to leave the xdm. If I hit 
 Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, it flips into the shell an returns immediately to xdm and 
 prompts the login again. I tried fixing this  through booting in Single User 
 Mode, but I wasn't successful because I have no write permission in /etc/ttys 
 during this mode.
 
 I bet it won't be the only solution to reinstall the entire system, isn't it? 
 Since I followed the Documentiation from Install until section 5.6.2, Imho, 
 there is a small warning missing in the documentation. Sth like this: Beware 
 of enabling the xdm-virtual-terminal because you can only return to the shell 
 while doing sth you dont know yet :-).
 
 May be you can find some time to send me a feedback or some kind of solution 
 to fix my problem.
 Thanks so long.
 
 Ralf
 
 PS: I'm sorry for my english. I hope you could even understand me!

You can return to the console with CTRL-ALT-F1, CTRL-ALT-F2 and so on.

Anyway, at least a terminal should start up once you have logged into XDM.
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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread Jona Joachim
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:09:58 +0100
Ralf Schreijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there!
 
 Today I just installed FreeBSD(6.1) for the first time in my life.
 After several tries on my own I decided to go through the
 installation by following the instructions in the handbook. I
 successfully installed and configured Xorg. Everything went well,
 until I reached the section 5.6.2, Using XDM. I just tried to
 follow the instructions and enabled xdm to start running on the 9th
 virtual terminal by replacing the off by on in /etc/ttys: ttyv8
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure in ttyv8
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure
 
 Now I can't do anything. The system directly boots into the xdm,
 prompts a loginscreen and if I login as root (or as a user) there is
 nothing I can do. As I know now there isn't even a chance to leave
 the xdm. If I hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, it flips into the shell an
 returns immediately to xdm and prompts the login again. I tried
 fixing this  through booting in Single User Mode, but I wasn't
 successful because I have no write permission in /etc/ttys during
 this mode.

You have just about any right in single user mode. Type
chmod 644 /etc/ttys
If you edit the file using vi and it isn't writable you can force to
write to it by typing :w!

Try to hit Ctrl+Alt+F2
This should get you to a shell.


Jona
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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread ajm
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 10:09:58PM +0100, Ralf Schreijer wrote:
 Hi there!
 
 Today I just installed FreeBSD(6.1) for the first time in my life. After 
 several tries on my own I decided to go through the installation by following 
 the instructions in the handbook. I successfully installed and configured 
 Xorg. Everything went well, until I reached the section 5.6.2, Using XDM. I 
 just tried to follow the instructions and enabled xdm to start running on the 
 9th virtual terminal by replacing the off by on in /etc/ttys:
 ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure
 in
 ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure
 
 Now I can't do anything. The system directly boots into the xdm, prompts a 
 loginscreen and if I login as root (or as a user) there is nothing I can do. 
 As I know now there isn't even a chance to leave the xdm. If I hit 
 Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, it flips into the shell an returns immediately to xdm and 
 prompts the login again. I tried fixing this  through booting in Single User 
 Mode, but I wasn't successful because I have no write permission in /etc/ttys 
 during this mode.
 
 I bet it won't be the only solution to reinstall the entire system, isn't it? 
 Since I followed the Documentiation from Install until section 5.6.2, Imho, 
 there is a small warning missing in the documentation. Sth like this: Beware 
 of enabling the xdm-virtual-terminal because you can only return to the shell 
 while doing sth you dont know yet :-).
 
 May be you can find some time to send me a feedback or some kind of solution 
 to fix my problem.
 Thanks so long.
 
 Ralf
 
 PS: I'm sorry for my english. I hope you could even understand me!
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   try this:  go to single user then do the following:

mount -u /
mount -a -t ufs
swapon -a

   then go the /etc directory change your settings and

shutdown -r now

   hope this helps.

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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread perryh
 You have just about any right in single user mode. Type
 chmod 644 /etc/ttys
 If you edit the file using vi and it isn't writable you can force to
 write to it by typing :w!

Not if his FS is mounted read-only.

Sure, he can remount it read-write, if he knows how :)
(Someone else already posted those instructions;
no need to repeat them here.)
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Re: Lacky Doc @ 5.6.2 Using XDM

2006-11-26 Thread Jona Joachim
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:06:20 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You have just about any right in single user mode. Type
  chmod 644 /etc/ttys
  If you edit the file using vi and it isn't writable you can force to
  write to it by typing :w!
 
 Not if his FS is mounted read-only.

Yes, I forgot that / is mounted read-only when you enter single user
mode, sorry.
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Re: securelevel doc?

2006-01-23 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-23 14:52, Joel Hatton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I may be confused, but istr that man security[7] used to
 document the results of different kernel securelevels; this no
 longer seems to be the case. Is this still documented in the
 base system without recourse to online help? (I'm OK with
 securelevels, btw, I'd just like to know where to point someone
 to this information)

It still does, AFAIK.  At least on my 7.0-CURRENT installations
here, the security(7) manpage does.  It seems you remember back
when the securelevel documentation was in the init(8) manpage.
This changed a while ago, when the `securelevel' explanation was
moved from init(8) to security(7).

| $ cd /usr/src/share/man/man7
| $ cvs log security.7
|
| RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/security.7,v
| Working file: security.7
| head: 1.45
| [...]
|
| revision 1.44
| date: 2005/09/03 17:15:59;  author: garys;  state: Exp;  lines: +63 -7
| Moved descriptions of securelevels from init(7) to security(7).
|
| Files used both securelevel and either secure level or
| security level; all are now security level.
|
| PR: docs/84266
| Submitted by:   garys
| Approved by:keramida
| MFC after:  3 days

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securelevel doc?

2006-01-22 Thread Joel Hatton
Hi,

I may be confused, but istr that man security[7] used to document the
results of different kernel securelevels; this no longer seems to be the
case. Is this still documented in the base system without recourse to
online help? (I'm OK with securelevels, btw, I'd just like to know where
to point someone to this information)

cheers,

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