Re: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread matt .
Oops, Sorry Jerry - accidentally sent this to only yourself

Anyway, this is for Jean-Paul,

Investigate g4u (Ghost 4 Unix) to accomplish your goal.  I've used this
handly little utility to dump entire 110GB HD's over ftp bit by bit.

Find it here:  http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/

Kind regards,

Matt Best

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> > Well I would think I would want all my configuration files, for the main
> > applications EXIM CLAM ETC,  so that when I reinstalled via ftp or cd, I
> > don't have to go in and make the changes to say , the exim cf file,  the
> > custom rules I have for SA etc,,
> >
> > I do believe the bulk would be in  /usr/local
> >
>
> Well, that isn't much in size terms.   A lot of that would
> be in either /etc or /usr/local/etc.   You could also dump
> root which is not big or make a little script that copies
> the config files you want that are not already in one of the
> dumped filesystems, over to some special space in one of
> those dumped filesystems.   Then, if you ever need to recover
> them, they would be in a convenient place.
>
> That would be more likely needed after tinkering with them
> than from a system failure anyway.  So, having a copy living
> somewhere convenient that does not require a restore could
> come in handy as well.
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Re: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > >  
> > > Jean-Paul Natola
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Information Technology
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> > > 588 Broadway Suite 503
> > > New York, NY 10012
> > > Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36
> > > Fax:  212-941-5563
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> 
> Well I would think I would want all my configuration files, for the main
> applications EXIM CLAM ETC,  so that when I reinstalled via ftp or cd, I
> don't have to go in and make the changes to say , the exim cf file,  the
> custom rules I have for SA etc,,
> 
> I do believe the bulk would be in  /usr/local
> 

Well, that isn't much in size terms.   A lot of that would
be in either /etc or /usr/local/etc.   You could also dump
root which is not big or make a little script that copies
the config files you want that are not already in one of the
dumped filesystems, over to some special space in one of 
those dumped filesystems.   Then, if you ever need to recover
them, they would be in a convenient place.   

That would be more likely needed after tinkering with them
than from a system failure anyway.  So, having a copy living
somewhere convenient that does not require a restore could
come in handy as well.

jerry

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Re: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> As you all  can tell by now I'm new to this, and I'm avidly reading through
> my AbsoluteBsd book.
> 
> I don't really save any data to the BSD box just logs, I use it for scanning
> email  (Exim, ClamAV, SA) 
> 
> My  goal is to backup the file/files/partitions  so that if the box blew up ,
> I can just grab a new box install bsd , then restore  it.

Well, if you are going to reinstall FreeBSD - from a CD and FTP? - 
then all you really need to back up are the working files you want
to recover.   If all you want are logs, most of those are in /var/log
unless you have told it to put things elsewhere or have created 
some special logging utility.   

So, you might get by with just dumping /var.

But, since you have the bulk of your space in /usr, I think maybe
you are putting some useful stuff in there.   So, you figure out
where your valuable stuff is and back up those filesystems.

jerry

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> From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Jean-Paul Natola
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Dump Help
> 
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > I'm trying to utilize dump to copy the entire disc to a network  drive , so
> > that in the event of hardware failure I can just restore to a new machine
> > 
> > Here's the output of df
> > Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> > /dev/ad0s1f4.9G651M3.8G14%/usr
> > /dev/ad0s1d248M 59M169M26%/var
> > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> > total  5.6G745M4.4G14%
> > 
> > here's the command I ran 
> > 
> > dump / -0aL -f /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
> > 
> > it runs well   it says  dump complete 
> > 
> > but my file only turns out to be 37,314,560 bytes
> > 
> > what am I missing ,  Ideally I would like ( I think I would at least) the
> > WHOLE disk to be backed up
> 
> The dump utility backs up by file system, not by drive.
> You told it to back up the '/' file system and it apparently did.
>   (That was that final '/' in your command line.   I don't think
>the first '/' belongs there unless it is something odd that I 
>have been missing - so I think the command should read:
>   dump -0aLf /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
>that is if '/usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116' is really the correct
>place to write the dump file)_
> 
> You then may also want to run dump for /usr and /var.  That would
> get the rest of the drive that is meaningful.
> You probably don't want to bother with /tmp though you could.
> 
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RE: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
As you all  can tell by now I'm new to this, and I'm avidly reading through
my AbsoluteBsd book.

I don't really save any data to the BSD box just logs, I use it for scanning
email  (Exim, ClamAV, SA) 

My  goal is to backup the file/files/partitions  so that if the box blew up ,
I can just grab a new box install bsd , then restore  it.



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> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I'm trying to utilize dump to copy the entire disc to a network  drive , so
> that in the event of hardware failure I can just restore to a new machine
> 
> Here's the output of df
> Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> /dev/ad0s1f4.9G651M3.8G14%/usr
> /dev/ad0s1d248M 59M169M26%/var
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> total  5.6G745M4.4G14%
> 
> here's the command I ran 
> 
> dump / -0aL -f /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
> 
> it runs well   it says  dump complete 
> 
> but my file only turns out to be 37,314,560 bytes
> 
> what am I missing ,  Ideally I would like ( I think I would at least) the
> WHOLE disk to be backed up

The dump utility backs up by file system, not by drive.
You told it to back up the '/' file system and it apparently did.
  (That was that final '/' in your command line.   I don't think
   the first '/' belongs there unless it is something odd that I 
   have been missing - so I think the command should read:
  dump -0aLf /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
   that is if '/usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116' is really the correct
   place to write the dump file)_

You then may also want to run dump for /usr and /var.  That would
get the rest of the drive that is meaningful.
You probably don't want to bother with /tmp though you could.

jerry

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Re: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I'm trying to utilize dump to copy the entire disc to a network  drive , so
> that in the event of hardware failure I can just restore to a new machine
> 
> Here's the output of df
> Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> /dev/ad0s1f4.9G651M3.8G14%/usr
> /dev/ad0s1d248M 59M169M26%/var
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> total  5.6G745M4.4G14%
> 
> here's the command I ran 
> 
> dump / -0aL -f /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
> 
> it runs well   it says  dump complete 
> 
> but my file only turns out to be 37,314,560 bytes
> 
> what am I missing ,  Ideally I would like ( I think I would at least) the
> WHOLE disk to be backed up

The dump utility backs up by file system, not by drive.
You told it to back up the '/' file system and it apparently did.
  (That was that final '/' in your command line.   I don't think
   the first '/' belongs there unless it is something odd that I 
   have been missing - so I think the command should read:
  dump -0aLf /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /
   that is if '/usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116' is really the correct
   place to write the dump file)_

You then may also want to run dump for /usr and /var.  That would
get the rest of the drive that is meaningful.
You probably don't want to bother with /tmp though you could.

jerry

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Re: Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

Hi all, 


I'm trying to utilize dump to copy the entire disc to a network  drive , so
that in the event of hardware failure I can just restore to a new machine

Here's the output of df
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f4.9G651M3.8G14%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d248M 59M169M26%/var
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
total  5.6G745M4.4G14%

here's the command I ran 


dump / -0aL -f /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /

it runs well   it says  dump complete 


but my file only turns out to be 37,314,560 bytes

what am I missing ,  Ideally I would like ( I think I would at least) the
WHOLE disk to be backed up
 

dump, as the manual page will tell you, backs up a single partition.  
Your / *partition*:


/dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/

has only 35Mb of data so a 37Mb dump seems just right.  Now try the same for 
/usr, /var (and if you care) /tmp and you'll have what you want.

You might want to consider compressing those backups e.g.:

dump / -0aL -f - / | gzip -9 > /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116.gz

which you can later restore with a command like:

gunzip -c /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116.gz | restore -ivf -  OR restore -r  or 
whatever parameters suit your needs.

If you rotate your bsd_bkp dir whenever you do a full dump, you could do 
regular incrementals in between kept with the relevant full dumps for neatness. 
 Compressing will make much better use of your remote disk, and unless you have 
 some shrivelled up old CPU will not too slow.  If it is too slow, then a -5 or 
even a -1 to gzip would still make a difference, unless you have nothing but 
images/video/audio files.

--Alex



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Dump Help

2005-11-22 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi all, 

I'm trying to utilize dump to copy the entire disc to a network  drive , so
that in the event of hardware failure I can just restore to a new machine

Here's the output of df
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f4.9G651M3.8G14%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d248M 59M169M26%/var
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
total  5.6G745M4.4G14%

here's the command I ran 

dump / -0aL -f /usr/home/H/bsd_bkp/1116 /

it runs well   it says  dump complete 

but my file only turns out to be 37,314,560 bytes

what am I missing ,  Ideally I would like ( I think I would at least) the
WHOLE disk to be backed up

Freebsd 5.4

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: System Panics and Core Dump help

2005-06-01 Thread Denny White

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Okay, didn't get a dump. Everything's fine
on the system. I was just trying to follow
how to be prepared for a panic, crash, etc.,
to be able to do a backtrace and have info
to give someone trying to help debug the
kernel. First time I rebooted after adding
the new settings, I got:

unable to open bounds file, using 0
no dumps found

And to the best of my knowledge, there was
no bounds file in /var/crash. Now there is,
size is 2k & has an internal value of 5.
Also, now when I boot, I get:

Checking for core dump on /dev/amrd0s1b
no dumps found

And, after rebooting again, I see that the
internal value of /var/crash/bounds has
been incremented by 1, so now it's at 6.
I read where it does that each time it
checks it. Only reason I bugged anyone on
the mailing list about this was I'm still
a relative newbie & didn't want to trash
all the work I'd done with my experimenting
before getting it where it could be fixed if
I did. :) So, as best as I can see it, it's
doing just what it's supposed to do. Thanks
for helping me clear that up, Greg.



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On Wednesday,  1 June 2005 at  2:25:56 -0500, Denny White wrote:


Just trying to get a heads up if I'm going about
this in the right way, if I've understood what
I've read and applied, outlined below.
I read an article at Onlamp on how to prepare
for system panics and core dumps. Article here:

...

Now, in /var/log/messages, I get:

savecore: unable to open bounds file, using 0
savecore: no dumps found


Did you get a dump?  Otherwise the second message is normal.  The
first one is harmless, and should only occur on the first real dump.


Am I right in assuming that the system's doing exactly what it's
supposed to do? That is, checking for a dump when booting, not
finding any, reporting as much, and proceeding booting as usual?


Assuming that you didn't write a dump, yes.

Greg
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Re: System Panics and Core Dump help

2005-06-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  1 June 2005 at  2:25:56 -0500, Denny White wrote:
>
> Just trying to get a heads up if I'm going about
> this in the right way, if I've understood what
> I've read and applied, outlined below.
> I read an article at Onlamp on how to prepare
> for system panics and core dumps. Article here:
>
> ...
>
> Now, in /var/log/messages, I get:
>
> savecore: unable to open bounds file, using 0
> savecore: no dumps found

Did you get a dump?  Otherwise the second message is normal.  The
first one is harmless, and should only occur on the first real dump.

> Am I right in assuming that the system's doing exactly what it's
> supposed to do? That is, checking for a dump when booting, not
> finding any, reporting as much, and proceeding booting as usual?

Assuming that you didn't write a dump, yes.

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System Panics and Core Dump help

2005-06-01 Thread Denny White

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Just trying to get a heads up if I'm going about
this in the right way, if I've understood what
I've read and applied, outlined below.
I read an article at Onlamp on how to prepare
for system panics and core dumps. Article here:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/03/21/Big_Scary_Daemons.html?page=2

After rebuilding my kernel with the

options KDB
options DDB
makeoptions DEBUG=-g

I copied kernel.debug to /var/crash/kernel.debug.date for
future use. I added the following below to /etc/rc.conf, leaving
the dump directory at its default /var/crash in /etc/defaults/rc.conf:

dumpdev="/dev/amrd0s1b" (this is my swap partition)
savecore_flags="-z" (added flag for compression)

Now, in /var/log/messages, I get:

savecore: unable to open bounds file, using 0
savecore: no dumps found

Am I right in assuming that the system's doing exactly what
it's supposed to do? That is, checking for a dump when booting,
not finding any, reporting as much, and proceeding booting as
usual? I assumed that, even though the message is a bit
misleading to a relative newbie like myself, after reading the
following at another web site:

- 
PROBLEMS AND REMEDIES

No Dump Was Saved
Cause:

The system may have shut down successfully.
Remedy:

No dump is expected. Core dumps are only
created for abnormal shutdowns.
- ---

Thanks for any help, advice and clarification.



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Re: dump help

2002-10-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Take a look at the estimated number of tapes needed below. Now, I'm not
> sure why it would need almost 1500 DLT IV tapes to backup 65G of data.
> Can someone possibly explain this to me? I am having a hell of a time
> trying to backup this data. I have hardware compression turned on on the
> drive as well.

Try:dump 0afun /dev/nsa0 /FS-mountpoint

i don't think the 'b 126' is doing what you hoped.

jerry

> 
> backup# mt rewind
> backup# dump 0bfun 126 /dev/nsa0 /dev/vinum/striped
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Oct 22 17:11:19 2002
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping /dev/vinum/striped to /dev/nsa0
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
>   DUMP: estimated 84906026 tape blocks on 1498.69 tape(s).
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
>   DUMP: Closing /dev/nsa0
>   DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
> backup# df -k
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/da0s1a   3023505086022730218%/
> /dev/da0s1f  5426350   614662   437758012%/usr
> /dev/da0s1e  2015918 2068   1852578 0%/var
> procfs 44 0   100%/proc
> /dev/vinum/striped 454465653 64241886 35386651515%/backup
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dump help

2002-10-22 Thread Chad Morland
Take a look at the estimated number of tapes needed below. Now, I'm not
sure why it would need almost 1500 DLT IV tapes to backup 65G of data.
Can someone possibly explain this to me? I am having a hell of a time
trying to backup this data. I have hardware compression turned on on the
drive as well.

backup# mt rewind
backup# dump 0bfun 126 /dev/nsa0 /dev/vinum/striped
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Oct 22 17:11:19 2002
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/vinum/striped to /dev/nsa0
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 84906026 tape blocks on 1498.69 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: Closing /dev/nsa0
  DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
backup# df -k
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a   3023505086022730218%/
/dev/da0s1f  5426350   614662   437758012%/usr
/dev/da0s1e  2015918 2068   1852578 0%/var
procfs 44 0   100%/proc
/dev/vinum/striped 454465653 64241886 35386651515%/backup


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