Re: easy patch management tools
Suggestions from another rookie(me): I use the ports tree and portsnap, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/portsnap.html, and when it's time to update the following one liner works great for me: cd /boot/ ; cp -Rp kernel kernel.good ; cd /usr/src ; cvsup -gL2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile ; make -j4 buildworld ; make buildkernel ; make installkernel ; make installworld; mergermaster ; reboot - Original Message - From: Aaron Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: easy patch management tools Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:06:14PM -0400, RJ wrote: Suggestions from another rookie(me): I use the ports tree and portsnap, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/portsnap.html, and when it's time to update the following one liner works great for me: cd /boot/ ; cp -Rp kernel kernel.good ; cd /usr/src ; cvsup -gL2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile ; make -j4 buildworld ; make buildkernel ; make installkernel ; make installworld; mergermaster ; reboot - Original Message - From: Aaron Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: easy patch management tools Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron ___ I perfer to use portsnap with portupgrade. Others use portsnap with portmanager. Yet others will suggest portsnap with portmaster. I am not very familiar with portmaster, but I have used the other two to upgrade my system. Read the man pages for information on installing packages. -- FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 GENERIC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Having never used yum or up2date myself, I wonder - how does it differ from using portupgrade? Is the only difference in that portupgrade builds the software locally whereas yum and up2date install binaries, or is there more to it? If binaries vs source is the only difference then portupgrade does offer a way to update all installed ports. Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; Using ports is not the same as building/installing software yourself from source. All the complications are handled by port maintainers and we happy users only need to type 'make install'. So there's really no need to be scared. The only downside of ports (as far as I can see) is that building them takes more time than installing from binaries. for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I still recommend using ports and portupgrade. Actually, I don't use portupgrade myself, because I am a masochist. But from the comments on this list it seems to be pretty good. -- Toomas Aas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I am assuming you have FreeBSD 6.1 installed. Using the ports system is really quite easy. It is rather imperative however that you read the /usr/ports/UPDATING test prior to updating your ports. It has tips, etc that you might require. An important one is the switch to Fedora Core 4 as the linux base. You can locate it under: 20060616 in the UPDATING document. I would recommend that you run portsnap to update your ports. Read the man for documentation. Then follow the directions in UPDATING to get the linux base port updated. You might need to install 'portupgrade' unless you installed it during your original installation process. Now, there are several options for updating you entire system. Personally, I prefer 'portmanager' for handling the task. You will have to install it as it is not part of the base system. After installing it, just run: portmanager -f -l -y That will rebuild your program base and insure that the dependencies are correct. HTH -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
On 9/5/06, Aaron Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; I personally use portupgrade and portaudit to manage my installed ports and have no complaints. I find portupgrade to be extremely easy to use (after your first mistake or two ;) and use portaudit to determine if any of my critical ports actually *need* upgrading. Though, I should mention that I've heard others on this list who prefer portmaster over portupgrade for various reasons. You should probably look into both and see which one suits you best. You can also you security/freebsd-update to keep your base system updated with errata fixes. Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, I would suggest using portsnap as is much more newb-friendly than cvsup. -David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron portupgrade has an option in /usr/local/etc/pktools.conf which sounds like what you want. # USE_PKGS: array # USE_PKGS_ONLY: array # # These are lists of ports that you prefer to use packages to # upgrade or install. They apply -P/--use-packages and # -PP/--use-packages-only to specific ports, respectively. # # cf. -P/--use-packages and -PP/--use-packages-only of # portupgrade(1) and portinstall(1) # # e.g.: # USE_PKGS = [ # 'perl', # 'ruby', # 'python', # ] # # USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ # 'x11*/XFree86*', # '*openoffice*', # ] USE_PKGS = [ ] USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ ] use portversion -l to see whats not at the latest version, and use portaudit to see which (if any) have security issues. I use USE_PKGS = [ */*, ] on machines what are slow or low on disk space but let portupgrade build from source otherwise as I like to fine tune the compile options from time to time hope this helps. Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
easy patch management tools
Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
