Re: disk labels (was: Re: fixating USB Storage)

2012-02-29 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, ill...@gmail.com wrote:


On 29 February 2012 10:33, Robert Huff  wrote:


Warren Block writes:

 >    I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
 > (obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
 >    Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
 > shows a label being added when the partition is created,

 (untested)
 # gpart modify -i 2 -l mylabel ada0


       I did this, and nothing exploded.  :-)
       When (and where) should I expect to see these appear under
/dev?  Immediately?  After rebooting?  I want to edit fstab, but
want to be clear on how.



The label(s) should be accessible immediately, HOWEVER:
if the filesystem is mounted rw they'll be lost on reboot.  So
you probably want to do the labelling from single-user mode.


With filesystem labels, yes.  Should not be a problem with gpart labels 
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Re: disk labels (was: Re: fixating USB Storage)

2012-02-29 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Robert Huff wrote:



Warren Block writes:

>I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
> (obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
>Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
> shows a label being added when the partition is created,

 (untested)
 # gpart modify -i 2 -l mylabel ada0


I did this, and nothing exploded.  :-)
When (and where) should I expect to see these appear under
/dev?  Immediately?  After rebooting?  I want to edit fstab, but
want to be clear on how.


They will be in /dev/gpt/.  Labels created with glabel are in 
/dev/label/, and filesystem labels go in directories named for the 
filesystem like /dev/ufs/.

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Re: disk labels (was: Re: fixating USB Storage)

2012-02-29 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 29 February 2012 10:33, Robert Huff  wrote:
>
> Warren Block writes:
>>  >    I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
>>  > (obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
>>  >    Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
>>  > shows a label being added when the partition is created,
>>
>>  (untested)
>>  # gpart modify -i 2 -l mylabel ada0
>
>        I did this, and nothing exploded.  :-)
>        When (and where) should I expect to see these appear under
> /dev?  Immediately?  After rebooting?  I want to edit fstab, but
> want to be clear on how.
>

The label(s) should be accessible immediately, HOWEVER:
if the filesystem is mounted rw they'll be lost on reboot.  So
you probably want to do the labelling from single-user mode.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-29 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:55:35 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
> I really need to do a combined article that covers all the 
> different types of labels.  It's on the list.

Please be so kind and also mention ufsid "labels"
(unique file system id) in that article.

Why?

"Any partitions with ufsid labels can be mounted
 in this way, eliminating the need to create permanent
 labels for them manually, while still enjoying the
 benefits of device-name independent mounting."

... even though they are "not normal words" in a typical
reader's mind. :-)

They can be found explained in The FreeBSD Handbook at 20.7.1:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html
(bottom of the page)




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disk labels (was: Re: fixating USB Storage)

2012-02-29 Thread Robert Huff

Warren Block writes:
>  >I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
>  > (obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
>  >Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
>  > shows a label being added when the partition is created,
>  
>  (untested)
>  # gpart modify -i 2 -l mylabel ada0

I did this, and nothing exploded.  :-)
When (and where) should I expect to see these appear under
/dev?  Immediately?  After rebooting?  I want to edit fstab, but
want to be clear on how.

Respectfully,


Robert Huff


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-29 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Robert Huff wrote:



Polytropon writes:


 Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.

 Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html


Good piece, but it doesn't explicitly cover one case and "man"
provides no example.
I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
(obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
shows a label being added when the partition is created,


(untested)
# gpart modify -i 2 -l mylabel ada0

There's also http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html , 
which talks about filesystem labels.  UFS labels can be added later with 
tunefs(8).  I really need to do a combined article that covers all the 
different types of labels.  It's on the list.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-29 Thread Robert Huff

Polytropon writes:

>  Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.
>  
>  Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
>  http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html

Good piece, but it doesn't explicitly cover one case and "man"
provides no example.
I have a disk - ad1 - with a partition - p2 - that was
(obviously) created by gpart ... but no label was attached.
Can I add a label to that partition later?  "man gpart" only
shows a label being added when the partition is created,


Robert Huff
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-29 Thread Maciej Milewski
Dnia wtorek, 28 lutego 2012 15:32:18 bsali...@gmail.com pisze:
> Maciej
> 
> I didn't know if the label would work in loader.conf.
> 
> This solution suggested by Adam worked and seems much simpler than
> labeling the filesystem.
Depends on your needs. For me it was essential to have the same name of the 
disk no matter to what server I connect it. Label is working fine for me. 
Anyway I'm glad that you resolved your problem.
Have a nice day,
Maciej
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Maciej

I didn't know if the label would work in loader.conf.

This solution suggested by Adam worked and seems much simpler than
labeling the filesystem.

hint.da.0.at="scbus6"

Thanks.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Maciej Milewski  wrote:
> vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work?
>
> I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader.
>
>
>
> Maciej
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Maciej Milewski
Dnia wtorek, 28 lutego 2012 13:08:04 bsali...@gmail.com pisze:
> Thanks,
> 
> I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader
> doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0
> 
> So how can this be resolved at "boot" time (not mount time).
> 
> Thanks.
vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work?
I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Adam,

This worked like a charm :-)

I found that my umass-sim0 is at scbus6 and added following lines in loader.conf

hint.scbus.6.bus="umass-sim0"
hint.da.0.at="scbus6"
hint.da.0.target="0"
hint.da.0.unit="0"

Thanks a lot.



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adam Vande More  wrote:
>
> Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs:
>
> hint.scbus.0.at="da0"
> hint.scbus.0.bus="0"
> hint.da.0.at="scbus0"
> hint.da.0.target="0"
> hint.da.0.unit="0"
> hint.scbus.1.bus="umass-sim0"
> hint.da.1.at="scbus1"
> hint.da.1.target="0"
> hint.da.1.unit="0"
>
>
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, bsali...@gmail.com wrote:

> The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
> the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
> next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
> is not present.
>
> How to solve this issue?
>

Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs:

hint.scbus.0.at="da0"
hint.scbus.0.bus="0"
hint.da.0.at="scbus0"
hint.da.0.target="0"
hint.da.0.unit="0"
hint.scbus.1.bus="umass-sim0"
hint.da.1.at="scbus1"
hint.da.1.target="0"
hint.da.1.unit="0"


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Thanks,

I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader
doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0

So how can this be resolved at "boot" time (not mount time).

Thanks.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Polytropon  wrote:
>
> Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.
>
> Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html
>
>
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:41:29 -0800, bsali...@gmail.com wrote:
> The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
> the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
> next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
> is not present.
> 
> How to solve this issue?

Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.

Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
is not present.

How to solve this issue?
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-04 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 04 February 2012, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:

> On Feb 4, 2012 4:54 AM, "Mike Clarke" 
> wrote:
?
> > Sounds similar to my experience. Normally my internal 4 slot memory
> > card reader is assigned devices da[0-3] and when the USB memory
> > stick is inserted it comes up as da4. If the USB stick is present
> > on booting then it appears as da0 and the card reader is da[1-4].
> > So it looks like occupied slots are given priority when numbers are
> > assigned at boot time.
> >
>
> Do you know if it is different with zfs system?

That was with a UFS basedFreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE system but I've just tested 
it 9.0-RELEASE booting from ZFS and it does just the same.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-04 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
On Feb 4, 2012 4:54 AM, "Mike Clarke"  wrote:
>
> On Saturday 04 February 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
>
> > I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned it to you in
> > response to this question, but I just very recently switched over to
> > using volume labels to mount my partitions instead of device names.
> >  I was having an ongoing issue where this external USB drive's device
> > number assignment would change from one boot to the next, toggling
> > back and forth between da0 and da4 (strange!).
>
> Sounds similar to my experience. Normally my internal 4 slot memory card
> reader is assigned devices da[0-3] and when the USB memory stick is
> inserted it comes up as da4. If the USB stick is present on booting
> then it appears as da0 and the card reader is da[1-4]. So it looks like
> occupied slots are given priority when numbers are assigned at boot
> time.
>
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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-04 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 04 February 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:

> I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned it to you in
> response to this question, but I just very recently switched over to
> using volume labels to mount my partitions instead of device names.
>  I was having an ongoing issue where this external USB drive's device
> number assignment would change from one boot to the next, toggling
> back and forth between da0 and da4 (strange!).

Sounds similar to my experience. Normally my internal 4 slot memory card 
reader is assigned devices da[0-3] and when the USB memory stick is 
inserted it comes up as da4. If the USB stick is present on booting 
then it appears as da0 and the card reader is da[1-4]. So it looks like 
occupied slots are given priority when numbers are assigned at boot 
time.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-03 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:41:39 -0800
"bsali...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> Please ignore, I forgot that I asked this before. Thanks.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:38 PM, bsali...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > How can I fix a USB storage device to always have the same device
> > name such as da9 irrespective of other da? devices present.
> >
> > Here is the device
> > # usbconfig -u 4 -a 2 dump_info
> > ugen4.2:  at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
> > (480Mbps) pwr=ON
> >
> > Thanks

I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned it to you in response
to this question, but I just very recently switched over to using volume
labels to mount my partitions instead of device names.  I was having an
ongoing issue where this external USB drive's device number assignment
would change from one boot to the next, toggling back and forth between
da0 and da4 (strange!).  Then just the other night,  something led me to
one of Warren Block's web pages describing how to easily label a volume
and use that instead in /etc/fstab, so shifting device assignments no
longer matter.  How lovely!  :-)

Here it is, "FreeBSD Labeled Filesystems", by Warren Block


http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html

A regular little gem of knowledge that was to discover.  :-)

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-02 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Please ignore, I forgot that I asked this before. Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:38 PM, bsali...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I fix a USB storage device to always have the same device name
> such as da9 irrespective of other da? devices present.
>
> Here is the device
> # usbconfig -u 4 -a 2 dump_info
> ugen4.2:  at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
> (480Mbps) pwr=ON
>
> Thanks



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fixating USB Storage

2012-02-02 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Hi,

How can I fix a USB storage device to always have the same device name
such as da9 irrespective of other da? devices present.

Here is the device
# usbconfig -u 4 -a 2 dump_info
ugen4.2:  at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
(480Mbps) pwr=ON

Thanks
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