Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008)

2010-04-04 Thread John
Hi,

In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the
second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an
installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free
version.

Here are the OSes I tried:

FreeBSD 8
FreeBSD 9
NetBSD 5.0.2
CentOS
Ubuntu 9.10 server

Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my
favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future,
because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at 
small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its
installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be
seen properly though. 

Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008)

2010-04-04 Thread pluknet
On 4 April 2010 19:33, John comp.j...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the
 second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an
 installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free
 version.

 Here are the OSes I tried:

 FreeBSD 8
 FreeBSD 9
 NetBSD 5.0.2
 CentOS
 Ubuntu 9.10 server

 Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my
 favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future,
 because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at
 small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its
 installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be
 seen properly though.

 Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt

A wild guess it's just not listed in mfi(4) pciids table (as well as
for rest H200 family).
What if you try this?

--- sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c.orig  2010-04-04 20:02:26.0 +0400
+++ sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c   2010-04-04 20:06:17.0 +0400
@@ -117,6 +117,7 @@
 } mfi_identifiers[] = {
{0x1000, 0x0060, 0x1028, 0x, MFI_FLAGS_1078,  Dell PERC 6},
{0x1000, 0x0060, 0x, 0x, MFI_FLAGS_1078,  LSI MegaSAS 1078},
+   {0x1000, 0x0072, 0x1028, 0x1f1e, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2,  Dell PERC
H200 Integrated},
{0x1000, 0x0078, 0x, 0x, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2,  LSI MegaSAS Gen2},
{0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f15, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2,  Dell PERC
H800 Adapter},
{0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f16, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2,  Dell PERC
H700 Adapter},

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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-04-01 Thread John
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:56:06AM +0100, krad wrote:
 
we are testing one at work at the moment. I think its a driver issue. We
are looking at either putting in a perc card or swapping it for the next
chasis.

I configured the disks as JBOD but got the same results. I think the
problem lies with all the disks each being 2TB so they can't be seen
with sysinstall. maybe the way forward is to boot to live CD so there's
a full environment, then try to sort it with GPT, then do an install
from the liveCD. I'll try this tonight. 
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-04-01 Thread krad
On 1 April 2010 14:58, John comp.j...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:56:06AM +0100, krad wrote:
 
 we are testing one at work at the moment. I think its a driver issue.
 We
 are looking at either putting in a perc card or swapping it for the
 next
 chasis.

 I configured the disks as JBOD but got the same results. I think the
 problem lies with all the disks each being 2TB so they can't be seen
 with sysinstall. maybe the way forward is to boot to live CD so there's
 a full environment, then try to sort it with GPT, then do an install
 from the liveCD. I'll try this tonight.
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your probably right as sysinstall only handles mbr, not gpt and you will
definately need gpt.
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-31 Thread krad
On 31 March 2010 02:13, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM, John comp.j...@googlemail.com wrote:



 Hi, thanks for your input.

 I have an idea. Would the answer be to install the OS to a SD card, boot
 from that then use GPT or ZFS to see the drive once the OS is installed?

 What i mean is, the disks are attached to the SATA raid card. if I don't
 select any disks in the raid, will they be seen by the OS? then I could
 just use zfs for raid functionality.

 Freebsd 8 sees the card, just not the disks. The server has a sd slot.
 Maybe this is what it's for?
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 Your best bet would be to configure the drives as JBOD and see if it
 detects the disks.  Post dmesg from that.

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we are testing one at work at the moment. I think its a driver issue. We are
looking at either putting in a perc card or swapping it for the next chasis.
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-30 Thread John
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 05:37:58PM +, Varan Okul wrote:
Hi,
 
I suggest you try these scenario first.
 
1st - At RAID controller BIOS.
 Create 1 small logical drive for FreeBSD installation.
 The rest space from RAID0, just create 2TB for each logical drive.
 
2nd - Boot with FreeBSD installation CD/DVD
 Lets see FreeBSD bootable CD/DVD can see the small logical drive
created, or not?
 
If this not work, may be the RAID controller is too new for this FreeBSD
version.
The CD/DVD doesn't have driver for it inside.
You may need to change to older RAID controller, or move to newer FreeBSD
version.

Hi, thanks for your input.

I have an idea. Would the answer be to install the OS to a SD card, boot
from that then use GPT or ZFS to see the drive once the OS is installed?

What i mean is, the disks are attached to the SATA raid card. if I don't
select any disks in the raid, will they be seen by the OS? then I could
just use zfs for raid functionality.

Freebsd 8 sees the card, just not the disks. The server has a sd slot.
Maybe this is what it's for?
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-30 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM, John comp.j...@googlemail.com wrote:



 Hi, thanks for your input.

 I have an idea. Would the answer be to install the OS to a SD card, boot
 from that then use GPT or ZFS to see the drive once the OS is installed?

 What i mean is, the disks are attached to the SATA raid card. if I don't
 select any disks in the raid, will they be seen by the OS? then I could
 just use zfs for raid functionality.

 Freebsd 8 sees the card, just not the disks. The server has a sd slot.
 Maybe this is what it's for?
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Your best bet would be to configure the drives as JBOD and see if it detects
the disks.  Post dmesg from that.

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freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-29 Thread John
Hello list

I've run into a bit of an impasse with freebsd8 nd dell R710 server.
Basically it has 3x 2TB disks (SATA) connected to a LSI card (on the
order it is referred to as SAS6IR/PERC H200). I make the virtual disk on
the SATA card (raid0 gives about 5.4Tb) but freebsd, after sysinstall
loads and I set the timezone and keyboard, won't see the disk.

I am accessing the server remotely via IDRAC6. This means I have a great
deal of difficulty grabbing the console with alt-f2 on bootup.

I have the feeling that maybe I have to pass a parameter to freebsd boot
to make it see the virtual disk. Is this the cade? Or is the card just
pants? Or is it not possible to boot over 2Tb? Or perhaps I need to boot
a running system from a SD card, and then make the virtual disk?

Or is it a sysinstall issue? Or a card issue? Freebsd sees the card (at
least freebsd-9 did) but not the disk (same as freebsd-8)

FWIW CentOS won't see it either. Please help!
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:53 AM, John comp.j...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hello list

 I've run into a bit of an impasse with freebsd8 nd dell R710 server.
 Basically it has 3x 2TB disks (SATA) connected to a LSI card (on the
 order it is referred to as SAS6IR/PERC H200). I make the virtual disk on
 the SATA card (raid0 gives about 5.4Tb) but freebsd, after sysinstall
 loads and I set the timezone and keyboard, won't see the disk.

 I am accessing the server remotely via IDRAC6. This means I have a great
 deal of difficulty grabbing the console with alt-f2 on bootup.

 I have the feeling that maybe I have to pass a parameter to freebsd boot
 to make it see the virtual disk. Is this the cade? Or is the card just
 pants? Or is it not possible to boot over 2Tb? Or perhaps I need to boot
 a running system from a SD card, and then make the virtual disk?

 Or is it a sysinstall issue? Or a card issue? Freebsd sees the card (at
 least freebsd-9 did) but not the disk (same as freebsd-8)

 FWIW CentOS won't see it either. Please help!


You'll need to use GPT partition instead of MBR if you're trying to boot
with a size  TB.  AKAIK, sysinstall doesn't support this, requiring a more
hands on installation.

If you haven't considered it, it may be worthwhile to use ZFS.  In that
scenario, you'd want to the controller to present the disks as JBOD and use
RAIDZ.  Once again, sysinstall doesn't support this, but there are some good
FreeBSD wiki articles on it.

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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:


 FWIW CentOS won't see it either. Please help!



 You'll need to use GPT partition instead of MBR if you're trying to boot
 with a size  TB.  AKAIK, sysinstall doesn't support this, requiring a more
 hands on installation.

 If you haven't considered it, it may be worthwhile to use ZFS.  In that
 scenario, you'd want to the controller to present the disks as JBOD and use
 RAIDZ.  Once again, sysinstall doesn't support this, but there are some good
 FreeBSD wiki articles on it.


Opps, didn't read the RAID-0 bit, still try the GPT stuff, the 2TB MBR is a
hard limit.  gstripe(8) would also be an option.  With you're RAID-0, were
you looking of for read or write speed?  You can still use RAIDZ and
outperform a straight stripe in most workloads if you make use of an ssd
based L2ARC and a ZIL for read and writes respectively.


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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-29 Thread krad
On 29 March 2010 15:39, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
  FWIW CentOS won't see it either. Please help!
 
 
 
  You'll need to use GPT partition instead of MBR if you're trying to boot
  with a size  TB.  AKAIK, sysinstall doesn't support this, requiring a
 more
  hands on installation.
 
  If you haven't considered it, it may be worthwhile to use ZFS.  In that
  scenario, you'd want to the controller to present the disks as JBOD and
 use
  RAIDZ.  Once again, sysinstall doesn't support this, but there are some
 good
  FreeBSD wiki articles on it.
 

 Opps, didn't read the RAID-0 bit, still try the GPT stuff, the 2TB MBR is a
 hard limit.  gstripe(8) would also be an option.  With you're RAID-0, were
 you looking of for read or write speed?  You can still use RAIDZ and
 outperform a straight stripe in most workloads if you make use of an ssd
 based L2ARC and a ZIL for read and writes respectively.


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I think his problem is he cant see a device to partition in the first place?
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Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0

2010-03-29 Thread John
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:57:08PM +0100, krad wrote:
 
I think his problem is he cant see a device to partition in the first
place?

This is correct.
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