freebsd-update (custom kernel)
I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. First question is the following : > su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is . [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only "success rate"? The answer is [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. --- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
It will work fine - it won't attempt to update the kernel. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:49 AM, masayoshi wrote: > I would like to know about freebsd-update command. > It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom > kernel. > First question is the following : > >> su - > #freebsd-update fetch > #freebsd-update install > > Does this command work well? > > The answer is . > [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. > > > Second question is ... > For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. > Can I upgrade without failure? > I would like to know only "success rate"? > > The answer is > [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% > > Thanks in advance. > > --- > Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 > pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: > I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and > maintaining the actual update server that distributes. I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:49:16AM -0700, masayoshi thus spake: I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. First question is the following : su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is . [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only "success rate"? The answer is [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. 1. Always work 2. Can never account for 100 percent... I've not run into a problem, though. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/ -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:19:29AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom kernel is no longer custom. All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches are distributed by the update servers. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching sources from the SECURITY branch. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: >> > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom > kernel is no longer custom. > > All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to > avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches > are distributed by the update servers. > > > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator > experts-exchange.com > http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html > E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
> > > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom > kernel is no longer custom. > > All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to > avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os > patches > are distributed by the update servers. > Hi, The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM kernels. In fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. With a custom kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by default the source code, the entire base system, and the kernel. Please read the handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:42:12AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching sources from the SECURITY branch. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I know what it does. I happen to run a slew of update servers myself, however if you run your own update server based on your own signatures, it will patch your custom kernel and distribute it, as well. I didn't know it would skip it, though, with the main update servers. Interesting. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
--- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 --- On Fri, 4/11/11, Alexandre wrote: > From: Alexandre > Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) > To: "Jason Helfman" , "Michael Sierchio" > , "masayoshi" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 3:42 AM > > > > > > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called > CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > Hi, > The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM > kernels. In > fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. > With a custom > kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by > default the source > code, the entire base system, and the kernel. > Please read the handbook : > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Thank you very much for the understandable explanations. I appreciate it very much. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
Sorry,all. I will email same message. I am not familiar with this webmail. Thank you very much for the understandable explanations. I appreciate it very much. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
