Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Friday 16 June 2006 23:25, Micah wrote:
> Jonathan Horne wrote:
> >> On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> >>> well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
> >>> option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p
> >>> now' and
> >>> the system will then power off properly. easy enough...
> >>>
> >>> but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
> >>> anything about this in the handbook.
> >>
> >> My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
> >> the default.  Play around with it
> >>
> >> Chad
> >>
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> > i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:
> >
> > athena# kldstat
> > Id Refs AddressSize Name
> >  13 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
> >  21 0xc0aac000 59960acpi.ko
> > athena# uname -a
> > FreeBSD athena.int.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 16
> > 20:48:52 CDT 2006
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ATHENA  i386
> >
> > and when i dont:
> > athena# kldstat
> > Id Refs AddressSize Name
> >  11 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
> >
> > when i want to boot the acpi support, i hit 2.  is that the proper way,
> > or is there some other way that resets this mode as default?
> >
> > thanks,
> > jonathan
>
> Last I read FreeBSD defaults ACPI off for systems that have "broken"
> ACPI, and defaults on for systems that have "working" ACPI. If you're
> sure your ACPI works without any problems add acpi_load="YES" to your
> loader.conf. (that might not be the "correct" solution, but it should
> work).
>
> HTH,
> Micah
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well, its finally working!!

i could have swore this was the first thing i tried, as loader.conf was the 
first area i researched, but when i added acpi_load="YES" to loader.conf, my 
system now boots with acpi enabled (and i can now properly poweroff with 
shutdown -p now).

i must have typed or something, because that was the first thing i mentally 
marked as "ok, that didnt work".  im so excited to have my system functioning 
correcetly now, as my old system was a 1.8GHz athlong, and this is a 3.2GHz 
p4.  xorg/KDE compile time is down from 36 hours to less than 24!!

cheers,
jonathan
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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-17 Thread Jonathan Horne
>
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:

 well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i
 choose
 option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p
 now' and
 the system will then power off properly. easy enough...

 but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
 anything about this in the handbook.
>>>
>>>
>>> My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
>>> the default.  Play around with it
>>>
>>
>> i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:
>
> It  may depend on how known your MB is to support acpi. On my
> machines to boot default with acpi and if I tell it not to boot with
> acpi at boot, when I reboot that is now the default.
>
> I am not an expert on this.  Maybe your MB is a "known" bad acpi one?
>
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man i hope thats not the case.  the computer im working with here is a
fairly new hp dc7100.  i know hp does a lot of non-microsoft stuff, so i
would hope that their technology has the benefits of trickledown from all
the r&d they can afford.

my whole point of fighting with this feature, is so that my system can
WOL.  if i sent 'shutdown -p now' from remote, and then later if i want
the system back on again... if its hanging at the "system has shutdown,
hit any key to reboot" promt, WOL will do nothing!

oh well, ill keep at it.

thanks,
jonathan

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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:



On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:


well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i  
choose

option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p
now' and
the system will then power off properly. easy enough...

but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
anything about this in the handbook.



My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
the default.  Play around with it



i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:


It  may depend on how known your MB is to support acpi. On my  
machines to boot default with acpi and if I tell it not to boot with  
acpi at boot, when I reboot that is now the default.


I am not an expert on this.  Maybe your MB is a "known" bad acpi one?

---
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Your Web App and Email hosting provider
chad at shire.net



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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Micah

Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:

well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p
now' and
the system will then power off properly. easy enough...

but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
anything about this in the handbook.


My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
the default.  Play around with it

Chad

---
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Your Web App and Email hosting provider
chad at shire.net





i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:

athena# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 13 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
 21 0xc0aac000 59960acpi.ko
athena# uname -a
FreeBSD athena.int.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 16
20:48:52 CDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ATHENA  i386


and when i dont:
athena# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 11 0xc040 6ab778   kernel

when i want to boot the acpi support, i hit 2.  is that the proper way, or
is there some other way that resets this mode as default?

thanks,
jonathan


Last I read FreeBSD defaults ACPI off for systems that have "broken" 
ACPI, and defaults on for systems that have "working" ACPI. If you're 
sure your ACPI works without any problems add acpi_load="YES" to your 
loader.conf. (that might not be the "correct" solution, but it should work).


HTH,
Micah
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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Jonathan Horne
>
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:
>>
>> well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
>> option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p
>> now' and
>> the system will then power off properly. easy enough...
>>
>> but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
>> anything about this in the handbook.
>
>
> My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
> the default.  Play around with it
>
> Chad
>
> ---
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
> Your Web App and Email hosting provider
> chad at shire.net
>
>
>

i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:

athena# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 13 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
 21 0xc0aac000 59960acpi.ko
athena# uname -a
FreeBSD athena.int.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 16
20:48:52 CDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ATHENA  i386

and when i dont:
athena# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 11 0xc040 6ab778   kernel

when i want to boot the acpi support, i hit 2.  is that the proper way, or
is there some other way that resets this mode as default?

thanks,
jonathan



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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:


well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p  
now' and

the system will then power off properly. easy enough...

but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
anything about this in the handbook.



My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes  
the default.  Play around with it


Chad

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Your Web App and Email hosting provider
chad at shire.net



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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Jonathan Horne
> trying to install freebsd 6.1 on a hp dc7100 (p4 3.4, sata, a pci-x slot,
> etc).  im having a couple issues getting it up and running with freebsd.
>
> main issue is, i cannot get the system to power off with acpi.  it will
> shutdown, but it stops at a screen that just says "the system  has powered
> off with acpi, hit any key to reboot", or something along that nature.
> ideally, i would like to figure out how to get it to behave normally, and
> fully power itself off when i give it 'shutdown -p now'.  the bios
> mentions lots of S3 related stuff under power management, but i dont have
> a good understanding of what that does.  i did try disabling some stuff,
> but it had no effect on powerdown behavior.
>
> i would appreciate any advice anyone has.
>
> thanks,
> jonathan
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well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
option 2 "boot with acpi enabled", i can then give 'shutdown -p now' and
the system will then power off properly. easy enough...

but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
anything about this in the handbook.

thanks,
jonathan


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freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-16 Thread Jonathan Horne
trying to install freebsd 6.1 on a hp dc7100 (p4 3.4, sata, a pci-x slot,
etc).  im having a couple issues getting it up and running with freebsd.

main issue is, i cannot get the system to power off with acpi.  it will
shutdown, but it stops at a screen that just says "the system  has powered
off with acpi, hit any key to reboot", or something along that nature. 
ideally, i would like to figure out how to get it to behave normally, and
fully power itself off when i give it 'shutdown -p now'.  the bios
mentions lots of S3 related stuff under power management, but i dont have
a good understanding of what that does.  i did try disabling some stuff,
but it had no effect on powerdown behavior.

i would appreciate any advice anyone has.

thanks,
jonathan

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