Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks Sean, no X doesn't work correctly for me. thanks Brian, but this freebsd box is my develop system and i have to work with it and no other OS. thanks Michael, i compiled X11 and Gnome from ports. I'm thinking to install everything from the beginning if i can not fix it in two days. thank you every body for your answers On 9/22/12, Michael L. Squires mi...@siralan.org wrote: I've always installed everything from the CD - choosing one of the install options that installs the base, sources, X11, Gnome or KDE, and then let the install program walk me through the X11 setup. This installs the startup files correctly for your system. Did you install the base 8.2 and then install X11 and Gnome from ports, or did you compile it from ports? That procedure hasn't worked for me. You will need to know what specific video hardware you have so you can choose the right video driver. I've also had problems with video boards which were not yet supported by Xorg. Mike Squires ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Sat 22.Sep'12 at 9:55:47 +0330 ] thanks Sean, no X doesn't work correctly for me. thanks Brian, but this freebsd box is my develop system and i have to work with it and no other OS. thanks Michael, i compiled X11 and Gnome from ports. I'm thinking to install everything from the beginning if i can not fix it in two days. thank you every body for your answers You proven already that X is supported on your system when you used the Xorg -configure command. You got to the default screen that is shown whenusing that method of testing the X server. You have simply just not used the correct driver or you have not set up your X config file properly. Do you really need to have Gnome as well? It is a rather bloated destop and you can have a really good development environment without all of the Gnome components. It is, of course, your choice but, personally I'd go for an X environment that is less hassle. I found a link for you on google, it might be of some use to you. This person has set up Gnome and provided some examples of configuring the system in a way that could help: https://cooltrainer.org/2012/01/02/a-freebsd-9-desktop-how-to/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic card is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from port. now it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in Xorg.log file and when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but when i restart my system,i don't have desktop yet. i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error. please tell me if you have any idea about it. thanks On 9/19/12, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev: thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have desktop yet. you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too. please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore. thanks Try this; cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers make rmconfig Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: have desktop on freebsd
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of saeedeh motlagh Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:49 AM To: Bernt Hansson Cc: Stephan Schindel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: have desktop on freebsd thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic card is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from port. now it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in Xorg.log file and when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but when i restart my system,i don't have desktop yet. i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error. please tell me if you have any idea about it. Thanks - Are you saying that X doesn’t work after reboot or are you saying that X doesn’t automatically launch after reboot? If it’s the latter, you need to enable it, either by turning tty8 on or by adding line to startup config. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
Pcbsd is always an option. On Sep 20, 2012 2:50 AM, saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote: thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic card is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from port. now it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in Xorg.log file and when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but when i restart my system,i don't have desktop yet. i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error. please tell me if you have any idea about it. thanks On 9/19/12, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev: thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have desktop yet. you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too. please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore. thanks Try this; cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers make rmconfig Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev: thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have desktop yet. you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too. please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore. thanks Try this; cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers make rmconfig Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 12:39:43 +0430 ] yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. Ok, that shows your graphics card will support Xorg. What options did you select when you built X server from ports? Also, after you've installed Xorg you need to install a window manager or desktop like KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, ... Then you need to create the file .xinitrc in your home directory; it should contain something like this: exec spectrwm Spectrwm is the Window Manager I use, so xinit uses the exec command to start the window manager, in my case spectrwm. Have you done that yet? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
Hi, Did you then copy the xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? You'll need to do that for it to be used by default. On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:43 +0430 saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks dude, yes Steve i copied it. thanks Jamie, ok i'll try it and inform you results. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: ... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev: my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again. On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote: Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have desktop yet. you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too. please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore. thanks On 9/18/12, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev: my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again. On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote: Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 10:09:31 +0430 ] my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks My video card is also intel. At first I just used the default installation config. Then, I used Xorg -configure which created a xorg.conf.new file in /root. I edited this and made very modifications. The relevant sections is: Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] Option DRITrue # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Also, near to the top of the file, there is module section. I have this: Section Module Load glx Load record Load dri2 Load dbe Load dri Load extmod EndSection Naturally, you can add and remove the things you don't want or need in this file. To use the new file for X, rename it (mv(1)) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf . I think that should, I hope, do it for you. Good luck and I hope that helps you a bit. Best wishes, Jamie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? thank you for your attention On 9/17/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 10:09:31 +0430 ] my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks My video card is also intel. At first I just used the default installation config. Then, I used Xorg -configure which created a xorg.conf.new file in /root. I edited this and made very modifications. The relevant sections is: Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] Option DRITrue # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Also, near to the top of the file, there is module section. I have this: Section Module Load glx Load record Load dri2 Load dbe Load dri Load extmod EndSection Naturally, you can add and remove the things you don't want or need in this file. To use the new file for X, rename it (mv(1)) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf . I think that should, I hope, do it for you. Good luck and I hope that helps you a bit. Best wishes, Jamie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
have desktop on freebsd
*hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote: Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
