Re: iTunes - once again.
On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't know if there have been other online petitions ... Good luck. My guess is that open-source systems like Linux or *BSD are considered too easily hackable, and therefore prohibited in Apple's agreements with the recording industry. (Even if the iTunes app itself were distributed as binary-only, having both the input and output drivers open-source might be perceived as making it too easy to attack the encryption.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hasn't Apple's DRM already been cracked? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iTunes - once again.
Tom Marchand wrote: On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't know if there have been other online petitions ... Good luck. My guess is that open-source systems like Linux or *BSD are considered too easily hackable, and therefore prohibited in Apple's agreements with the recording industry. (Even if the iTunes app itself were distributed as binary-only, having both the input and output drivers open-source might be perceived as making it too easy to attack the encryption.) Hasn't Apple's DRM already been cracked? At one point in time the DRM in use for encrypting MP4 files was cracked. However, Apple and/or other vendors came up with a different format / scheme for encrypting and/or storing data in iTunes v6+. Read my previous post which mentions hymn. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iTunes - once again.
Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't know if there have been other online petitions ... Good luck. My guess is that open-source systems like Linux or *BSD are considered too easily hackable, and therefore prohibited in Apple's agreements with the recording industry. (Even if the iTunes app itself were distributed as binary-only, having both the input and output drivers open-source might be perceived as making it too easy to attack the encryption.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iTunes - once again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't know if there have been other online petitions ... Good luck. My guess is that open-source systems like Linux or *BSD are considered too easily hackable, and therefore prohibited in Apple's agreements with the recording industry. (Even if the iTunes app itself were distributed as binary-only, having both the input and output drivers open-source might be perceived as making it too easy to attack the encryption.) It's not just that. Given Apple's stance in the marketplace, they (rightly) prefer to do things when it suits their vested interests. So, considering the following points, Apple won't support iTunes on any platform other than OSX and Windows: -DRM doesn't exist on *BSD, Solaris or Linux, which means that Apple would have to do the system from scratch or adapt the system to meet the requirements of the installation platform. -The cost of development, security risks, and probable loss of IP would be much higher since they'd be spreading out their resources pretty thin by developing DRM/iTunes for other platforms. -Plus, the number of PCs owners that do have iTunes protected files is probably much smaller than the market share that own Mac or Windows machines and use iTunes. -Many times writing binary applications for Unix requires a common denominator for all applications. Considering that there isn't necessarily a common denominator in Unix (shells are different, kernels are different, not all clients have the same WMs, DEs, etc), finding and establishing that common denominator would take a lot of time. Therefore, with that thinking in mind I highly doubt that anything will come about in the near future where iTunes is supported on another platform than Windows or OSX, unless everyone will start using Linux or *BSD because of Vista ^_^. -Garrett PS Have you tried Crossoffice yet? It's a packaged suite for wine that supposedly supported iTunes (as well as Office XP) back in the day (~1 year ago). You'll have to pay for it though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iTunes - once again.
Heya folks - Every 6 months (sometimes longer) I ask about either a port, or a Wine config that allows the playing of iTune-purchased music. Last I seen, Banshee comes close (Under Linux) and of course I opted to give Wine a shot. I could settle for Wine *IF* there is/was a version of iTunes that some has gotten to work - no need pointing me to the WineHQ site. The docs for versions of iTunes is lacking (and of course, I'm being kind). So - if anyone has gotten iTunes files to work (Please, I don't want to go through the madness of converting 7 DVD's into MP3 format), let me know. With a little luck, someone has gotten this done without hours of kludging. -- Best regards, Chris Cost of repair can be determined by multiplying the cost of your new coat by 1.75, or by multiplying the cost of a new washer by .75. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: iTunes - once again.
Chris wrote: Heya folks - Every 6 months (sometimes longer) I ask about either a port, or a Wine config that allows the playing of iTune-purchased music. Last I seen, Banshee comes close (Under Linux) and of course I opted to give Wine a shot. I could settle for Wine *IF* there is/was a version of iTunes that some has gotten to work - no need pointing me to the WineHQ site. The docs for versions of iTunes is lacking (and of course, I'm being kind). So - if anyone has gotten iTunes files to work (Please, I don't want to go through the madness of converting 7 DVD's into MP3 format), let me know. With a little luck, someone has gotten this done without hours of kludging. Take a look at this project page and note the iTunes version warning: http://hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/. Better off not buying DRM protected files, or just get a Mac if you don't like Windows =D. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iTunes - once again.
On Sun, February 4, 2007 2:47 pm, Chris wrote: Heya folks - Every 6 months (sometimes longer) I ask about either a port, or a Wine config that allows the playing of iTune-purchased music. Last I seen, Banshee comes close (Under Linux) and of course I opted to give Wine a shot. I could settle for Wine *IF* there is/was a version of iTunes that some has gotten to work - no need pointing me to the WineHQ site. The docs for versions of iTunes is lacking (and of course, I'm being kind). So - if anyone has gotten iTunes files to work (Please, I don't want to go through the madness of converting 7 DVD's into MP3 format), let me know. With a little luck, someone has gotten this done without hours of kludging. Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? While I feel your pain about converting to MP3, having your music held hostage and restricting your pre-existing legal rights of use seems like a pretty good motivator... A junk box out of the closet running flat-out to do the conversion of AAC to MP3 wouldn't take that long, even for 7 DVD worth, I shouldn't think... -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iTunes - once again.
Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple for Linux support. Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't know if there have been other online petitions, but here's a recent one for just that: http://www.petitiononline.com/itunesli/petition.html Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
