Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Giorgos Keramidas
keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:17:38 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 The conversations on ports@ seem to be mostly concerned with the needs
 of port maintainers rather than the users of ports.  If you have
 problems getting a port to build or a package added, it feels like the
 right place to get help.

 But I'm not sure whether it's the place for questions that come up after
 the initial install.  questions@ seems to be the place for those.

 I think you got that right.  lists.freebsd.org says:

 freebsd-ports   Porting software to FreeBSD
 freebsd-questions   User questions

 It's nice to have a list for people who are *porting* software, but the
 list for general `user questions' is here.


I certainly agree, and hope every time Wojciech posts NTG or OT
the OP's thread doesn't get turned into a flamewar on Where this post
should go..


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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:17:38 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net 
wrote:
 The conversations on ports@ seem to be mostly concerned with the needs
 of port maintainers rather than the users of ports.  If you have
 problems getting a port to build or a package added, it feels like the
 right place to get help.

 But I'm not sure whether it's the place for questions that come up after
 the initial install.  questions@ seems to be the place for those.

I think you got that right.  lists.freebsd.org says:

freebsd-ports   Porting software to FreeBSD
freebsd-questions   User questions

It's nice to have a list for people who are *porting* software, but the
list for general `user questions' is here.

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Hi,
I know that IM support japanese text.
On Freebsd 7.0 with latest imagemagick built from port (6.4.7) and
msgothic.ttc copied from windows partition,
imagick extension of PHP installed by pecl.
in terminal (zsh) I type:

convert origin.jpg -fill white -font
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/msgothic.ttc -pointsize 125 -stroke blue
-strokewidth 1 -draw text 20,130 '' straight.jpg

IM did not informed any error, but the result is japanese text broken
(question marks).
However, if I ran PHp script (see below), japanese displayed in image fine.
What is the reason and how can I solve that?
thansk and regards,


NTG
please do ask on imagemagick support! it's not part of FreeBSD and this 
problem doesn't look like FreeBSD specific.


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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Nikola Lečić
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:20:23 -0800 (PST)
cuongvt free...@vuhanhnhu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I know that IM support japanese text.
 On Freebsd 7.0 with latest imagemagick built from port (6.4.7) and
 msgothic.ttc copied from windows partition,
 imagick extension of PHP installed by pecl.
 in terminal (zsh) I type:
 
 convert origin.jpg -fill white -font
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/msgothic.ttc -pointsize 125 -stroke
 blue -strokewidth 1 -draw text 20,130 'がくせい' straight.jpg
 
 IM did not informed any error, but the result is japanese text broken
 (question marks).

Hello,

It works for me with ImageMagick-6.4.5.5 and ImageMagick-6.4.7.5.
First, please make sure that the cause of the problem is not something
simple, i.e. make sure that

  a) you don't have a wrong /non-UTF-8/ locale (not very likely since
 you wouldn't get question marks);

  b) you compiled ImageMagick with IMAGEMAGICK_TTF and
 IMAGEMAGICK_FONTCONFIG.

If these are the case, then it's almost certain that fontconfig is
somehow confused with that Microsoft font. For example, see this
thread on XeTeX mailing list about Microsoft YaHei font:

  http://www.tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2007-May/006539.html

If you use -text directive without -font specified, ImageMagick will
use the fonts from

  /usr/local/lib/ImageMagick-6.4.7/config/type-ghostscript.xml

and this will produce question marks with Japanese UTF-8 string, which
seems to be the case. So, if you don't want to use some free
non-Microsoft font, you can try to do this:

  1) Regenerate fontconfig cache ('fc-cache -f -v' as root).

  2) Check if MS Gothic is visible to ImageMagick, i.e. try

   %convert -list font

 The output should contain

   Font: MS-ゴシック-標準
 family: MS ゴシック
 style: Normal
 stretch: Normal
 weight: 400
 glyphs: /path/to/msgothic.ttc

 in ja_JP.UTF-8, or

   Font: MS-Gothic-Regular
 family: MS Gothic

 in en_US.UTF-8 locale.

  3) Then try

   %convert orig.jpg -font MS-ゴシック-標準 -verbose -fill white \
 -pointsize 125 -stroke blue -strokewidth 1 \
 -draw text 20,130 'がくせい' straight.jpg

 if you use ja_JP.* locale (-font MS-Gothic-Regular if you use
 en_US.UTF-8 -- note that the command is locale-sensitive) and see
 if this makes any difference.

Best regards.
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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Nikola Lečić
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:03:18 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 
 NTG
 please do ask on imagemagick support!

Interestingly, he did (and, as it appears, before you replied):

  http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1t=12713

There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to
Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such
things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me
_as a FreeBSD user_. You are of course not obliged to reply at all.

The fact that people often get better replies about application X
running on FreeBSD on FreeBSD list than on a native list/forum reveals
something good about FreeBSD community IMHO.

Best regards.
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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to
Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such
things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me
_as a FreeBSD user_. You are of course not obliged to reply at all.

The fact that people often get better replies about application X
running on FreeBSD on FreeBSD list than on a native list/forum reveals
something good about FreeBSD community IMHO.


or very bad app X support.

anyway - it's NTG! it's really HARD today to browse that list and see 
anything about FreeBSD.


if it has to be every app on the world support - why it's not called

everything-quest...@freebsd.org
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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Charlie Kester

On Sun 14 Dec 2008 at 11:17:27 PST Nikola Le??i?? wrote:

There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to
Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such
things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me
_as a FreeBSD user_. You are of course not obliged to reply at all.

The fact that people often get better replies about application X
running on FreeBSD on FreeBSD list than on a native list/forum reveals
something good about FreeBSD community IMHO.


By posting here, the OP is more likely to get an answer from other users
who are using app X on FreeBSD.  


Asking in the App X forum is likely to get an unhelpful answer from
*their* local curmudgeons: No one here uses FreeBSD, and it's not a
priority for the App X developers. Go away.

My point being, getting App X working on FreeBSD is often a higher
priority for us than it is for them, and someone here might have already
gone to the trouble of figuring it out.  I see nothing wrong in asking
whether that's the case.


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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:18:47 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to
 Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such
 things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me
 _as a FreeBSD user_. You are of course not obliged to reply at all.

 The fact that people often get better replies about application X
 running on FreeBSD on FreeBSD list than on a native list/forum reveals
 something good about FreeBSD community IMHO.

 or very bad app X support.

 anyway - it's NTG! it's really HARD today to browse that list and see
 anything about FreeBSD.

 if it has to be every app on the world support - why it's not called

 everything-quest...@freebsd.org

It *is* called what you don't want to believe its name is.

The name is `freebsd-questions' not 
`freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'.

Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to
convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort of
thing to the list of `_general_ questions about FreeBSD'.  Please, STOP
doing that.  We may have to block you from posting to the lists if this
keeps going and increasing in intensity.



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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar


The name is `freebsd-questions' not 
`freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'.

Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to
convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort of


it's only Your opinion. My opinion is different. This list gets totally 
polluted by OT traffic that DO HARM the Project, because it's more and 
more difficult to get help, and give help to people that posts ON-TOPIC.

It's complete mess!

So i WILL respond NTG or OT to questions that are NTG/OT.

EOT from me about this.
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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 The name is `freebsd-questions' not
 `freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'.

 Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to
 convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort of

 it's only Your opinion. My opinion is different. This list gets totally
 polluted by OT traffic that DO HARM the Project, because it's more and more
 difficult to get help, and give help to people that posts ON-TOPIC.
 It's complete mess!

 So i WILL respond NTG or OT to questions that are NTG/OT.

I really wish I had your free time.  I am happy, however, that you
were promoted to questions@ police.


 EOT from me about this.

How about making it EOT from you about everything that is not contributional?

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread vuthecuong



Glen Barber-2 wrote:
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wojciech Puchar
 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 The name is `freebsd-questions' not
 `freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'.

 Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to
 convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort of

 it's only Your opinion. My opinion is different. This list gets totally
 polluted by OT traffic that DO HARM the Project, because it's more and
 more
 difficult to get help, and give help to people that posts ON-TOPIC.
 It's complete mess!

 So i WILL respond NTG or OT to questions that are NTG/OT.
 
 I really wish I had your free time.  I am happy, however, that you
 were promoted to questions@ police.
 

 EOT from me about this.
 
 How about making it EOT from you about everything that is not
 contributional?
 
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Hi all
Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to
freebsd.
I will pay attention so that this wrong posting  will not occurr again.
This is my fault. 

But I admit that freebsd-questions mailing list is really really very active
mailing list which is have not only guru in OS itself but many many
professionials of apps/servers running on top of it. (In fact I also posted
this to imagemagick-nabble and imagemagick forum also, the result is I
always get most useful/friendly/step-by-step answers from freebsd-questions
that I can not reveive from the others).
Once again, sorry you.
Best regards,

PS: But one thing I still could not understand is that in the past, the
others and I posted many many questions about Gnome, KDE, xfce, fluxbox,
php, java, squid, clamav, tripwire, anything but no any complaints, right?


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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM, vuthecuong vuthecu...@luvina.net wrote:

 Hi all
 Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to
 freebsd.
 I will pay attention so that this wrong posting  will not occurr again.
 This is my fault.

No, it is not.  Questions@ is a general list for general FreeBSD questions.

Getting something FreeBSD related to work, regardless of
base-vs-ports, is FreeBSD related.

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread matt donovan
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM, vuthecuong vuthecu...@luvina.net wrote:
 
  Hi all
  Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to
  freebsd.
  I will pay attention so that this wrong posting  will not occurr again.
  This is my fault.

 No, it is not.  Questions@ is a general list for general FreeBSD
 questions.

 Getting something FreeBSD related to work, regardless of
 base-vs-ports, is FreeBSD related.

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a Glen stated anything dealing with FreeBSD base-vs-ports is FreeBSD
related. Many of us I know are starting to get tired of the police. And it
seems like he won't be bothering us with posts for a while since  he told a
FreeBSDd person off on this thread.
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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:23 -0800 (PST), vuthecuong vuthecu...@luvina.net 
wrote:
 Hi all
 Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to
 freebsd.  I will pay attention so that this wrong posting will not
 occurr again.  This is my fault.

 But I admit that freebsd-questions mailing list is really really very
 active mailing list which is have not only guru in OS itself but many
 many professionials of apps/servers running on top of it. (In fact I
 also posted this to imagemagick-nabble and imagemagick forum also, the
 result is I always get most useful/friendly/step-by-step answers from
 freebsd-questions that I can not reveive from the others).

Some of us disagree with the 'off topic police'.  If you have questions
about programs that _run_ on FreeBSD, please keep asking here.  Nothing
has changed.

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Robert Huff
Giorgos Keramidas writes:

  Some of us disagree with the 'off topic police'.  If you have
  questions about programs that _run_ on FreeBSD, please keep
  asking here.  Nothing has changed.

Umm ... while one can ask those questions here (questions@) and
hore to get answered, I believe the sanctioned forum is po...@.
It's rather lower traffic, which is not a bad thing.


Robert Huff


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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas writes:

  Some of us disagree with the 'off topic police'.  If you have
  questions about programs that _run_ on FreeBSD, please keep
  asking here.  Nothing has changed.

Umm ... while one can ask those questions here (questions@) and
 hore to get answered, I believe the sanctioned forum is po...@.
 It's rather lower traffic, which is not a bad thing.


I agree that they probably *should* be asked on ports@, but because it
is lower traffic, there is a lesser chance of getting a solution to a
problem.

I didn't see any clear definition on the lists.freebsd.org site
stating questions@ was base only.

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Robert Huff

Glen Barber writes:

  Umm ... while one can ask those questions here (questions@) and
   hore to get answered, I believe the sanctioned forum is po...@.
   It's rather lower traffic, which is not a bad thing.
  
  I agree that they probably *should* be asked on ports@, but
  because it is lower traffic, there is a lesser chance of getting
  a solution to a problem.

Not necessarily.  I've heard of knowledgable poeple who are on
ports@ but not questi...@.


Robert Huff

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Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Charlie Kester

On Sun 14 Dec 2008 at 19:45:24 PST Robert Huff wrote:


Glen Barber writes:


Umm ... while one can ask those questions here (questions@) and hore
to get answered, I believe the sanctioned forum is po...@.  It's
rather lower traffic, which is not a bad thing.


I agree that they probably *should* be asked on ports@, but
because it is lower traffic, there is a lesser chance of getting
a solution to a problem.


Not necessarily.  I've heard of knowledgable poeple who are on ports@
but not questi...@.


The conversations on ports@ seem to be mostly concerned with the needs
of port maintainers rather than the users of ports.  If you have
problems getting a port to build or a package added, it feels like the
right place to get help.  


But I'm not sure whether it's the place for questions that come up after
the initial install.  questions@ seems to be the place for those.

I haven't been on either list very long, however, and I could have been
misled by a small sample size.

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imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-13 Thread cuongvt

Hi,
I know that IM support japanese text.
On Freebsd 7.0 with latest imagemagick built from port (6.4.7) and
msgothic.ttc copied from windows partition,
imagick extension of PHP installed by pecl.
in terminal (zsh) I type:

convert origin.jpg -fill white -font
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/msgothic.ttc -pointsize 125 -stroke blue
-strokewidth 1 -draw text 20,130 'がくせい' straight.jpg

IM did not informed any error, but the result is japanese text broken
(question marks).
However, if I ran PHp script (see below), japanese displayed in image fine.
What is the reason and how can I solve that?
thansk and regards,

Below is PHP script:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=ja xml:lang=ja
dir=ltr
head
titlesample373/title
/head
body
?php
/* ファイルはUTF-8で保存してね */
$im = new Imagick('sf.jpg');
$idraw = new ImagickDraw();
/* フォント設定 */
$idraw-setFont(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/msgothic.ttc);
/* フォントサイズ設定 */
$idraw-setFontSize(32);
/* gravity設定 */
$idraw-setGravity(Imagick::GRAVITY_CENTER);
$im-annotateImage($idraw, 0, 0, 0, 日本語);
$im-writeImage('sample373a.jpg');
/* $idraw-clear(); 2008/09/30追記:destroyと同様にClearDrawingWandを呼ぶので必要なし */
$idraw-destroy();
/* $im-clear(); 2008/09/30追記:destroyと同様にClearMagicWandを呼ぶので必要なし */
$im-destroy();
?


/body
/html
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