install: kernel config: NIC ?
I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. needless to say, my NIC is not included (as i suppose are many others not included) in hardware notes, i see my device, a 3c905B, requires xl(4) driver. the closest of the six i can choose from is a line that says: NE1000, NE2000,3C503,WE/SMC80xx Ethernet adapters 3C503 requires ed(4) driver question 2: what do i do now? tks. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. I haven't seen this documented either, but reckon these are just the drivers that might need to have resources set explicitly to avoid conflicts. Since that means they're all ISA cards, you can generally just delete them all to remove all conflicts. But see below: needless to say, my NIC is not included (as i suppose are many others not included) in hardware notes, i see my device, a 3c905B, requires xl(4) driver. the closest of the six i can choose from is a line that says: NE1000, NE2000,3C503,WE/SMC80xx Ethernet adapters 3C503 requires ed(4) driver Some NE2000-compatible PCI cards need this ed(4) driver. question 2: what do i do now? Just carry on. The drivers for PCI-only cards (like yours) don't need to be listed here because resources conflicts don't occur as they used to with mis-configured ISA setups. This section isn't listing _all_ available drivers, just those (for ISA cards) that might have conflicts and/or need arguments to match resource (irq, base address) settings. If I'm wrong in my deduction here, please correct me, someone. PWR. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
* lee slaughter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-24 08:50]: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. 3C503 requires ed(4) driver question 2: what do i do now? Just continue with the install, and your NIC should work just fine when it comes time to configure it, which will be either a) before you try to fetch any distributions over the net, or b) after the system is installed, during post-install configuration. HTH, -- Joshua All your people must learn before you can reach for the stars. -- Kirk, The Gamesters of Triskelion, stardate 3259.2 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Peter Risdon wrote: lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. I haven't seen this documented either, but reckon these are just the drivers that might need to have resources set explicitly to avoid conflicts. Since that means they're all ISA cards, you can generally just delete them all to remove all conflicts. But see below: I suppose it might be clear from inference and maybe I should have thought of it. But a clarifying note in the handbook would help. snip Just carry on. The drivers for PCI-only cards (like yours) don't need to be listed here because resources conflicts don't occur as they used to with mis-configured ISA setups. This section isn't listing _all_ available drivers, just those (for ISA cards) that might have conflicts and/or need arguments to match resource (irq, base address) settings. Just something to this effect in the handbook. again, thanks all. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:09:38AM -0800, Joshua Lokken wrote: * lee slaughter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-24 08:50]: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. Unfortunate perhaps. These lists remain for legacy reasons. You can delete everything listed and it'll still work, because it's for real old hw. Anything even relatively recent will be automagically detected by the kernel, unless it's so cheap, new or esoteric as to not be supported Kevin Kinsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. That configuration screen only shows ancient ISA cards that cannot identify themselves to the system. Any modern NIC (either PCI or Cardbus) will be autodetected. Basically you can just plough on reguardless with your install and all of your network interfaces should be picked up. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, lee slaughter wrote: ...kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. That configuration screen only shows ancient ISA cards that cannot identify themselves to the system. Any modern NIC (either PCI or Cardbus) will be autodetected. Basically you can just plough on reguardless with your install and all of your network interfaces should be picked up. again, thanks everybody. there should be a note to this effect in handbook. how does one submit a sug for handbook? lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. That configuration screen only shows ancient ISA cards that cannot identify themselves to the system. Any modern NIC (either PCI or Cardbus) will be autodetected. Basically you can just plough on reguardless with your install and all of your network interfaces should be picked up. A note to this effect should be in handbook. How do you make sugs to handbook? Or any docs? (I've cc'd freebsd-doc on ths) In fact it might be safe to say that if you pop the hood of your PC and there are _no_ ISA cards then you can skip kernel config step? lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
lee slaughter wrote: again, thanks everybody. there should be a note to this effect in handbook. The handbook does mention it, sort of. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html section 2.3.2 onwards. PWR. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Peter Risdon wrote: lee slaughter wrote: again, thanks everybody. there should be a note to this effect in handbook. The handbook does mention it, sort of. sort of. it alludes to the antiquity if ISA anyway. i'll use send-pr(8) maybe and complain about it. tks. lee http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html section 2.3.2 onwards. PWR. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
