Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * < 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and hangs) * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) * won't save settings and a couple minor ones: * XFCE menu doesn't work * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's not a good way to get 4.4 back... What other window managers do people use, or what would you recommend and why? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
Keith Seyffarth wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * < 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and hangs) * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) * won't save settings and a couple minor ones: * XFCE menu doesn't work * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's not a good way to get 4.4 back... What other window managers do people use, or what would you recommend and why? Thanks. ___ In 7.1 I installed the xfce mega package and it is version 4.4.2, It installed every thing xfce has available. It works fine for me. xfce 4.6 is very dirty and needs alot more work before it's usable. I had some of the same problems as you so i deleted it and returned to 4.4.2. also installed the Xorg mega package. First time startx takes about 30sec, after that it comes up in 5-10sec. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window > manager. Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (# firefox). Once you get the hang of its keybindings, which are vi-like, it's fun and easy. It's also compatible with aterm, which will give you transparent terminals (if that's something that interests you). Also, I highly recommend that you check out http://xwinman.org. I found it to be fun and informative to peruse the list of wm's there. > > > Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: > > * < 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking > computer > * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) > * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running > * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and > hangs) > * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) > * won't save settings > > and a couple minor ones: > > * XFCE menu doesn't work > * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango > > None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's > not a good way to get 4.4 back... > > What other window managers do people use, or what would you recommend > and why? > > Thanks. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * < 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and hangs) * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) * won't save settings xfce-4.6 is running here on a couple of machines, with none of those problems. Those actually sound more like xorg problems. and a couple minor ones: * XFCE menu doesn't work Which one? In what way? I miss the menu editor... * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango Had to manually set the icons in the panel for xterm, mousepad, thunar, and firefox. I think I switched back to Rodent after not liking the Tango icons, but only GNOME and Tango show in Settings/Appearance/Icons. None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's not a good way to get 4.4 back... portdowngrade and some work can probably do it. If your problems are really xorg related, changing window manager won't help. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
Got X? You already got one ;-) http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window > manager. The XFCE upgrade went smoothly for me, apart from missing icons, although I don't use it all that much so I may have missed something. At very least I'd do a portupgrade -a, preferably a portupgrade -fa. Running 6.0 isn't very sensible, there aren't all that many people using Freebsd as a desktop machine in the first place, and most of the people best suited to fix problems, or file detailed PRs will be on 7 or 8 by now. > What other window managers do people use, or what would you recommend > and why? I'd suggest kde3, it's very stable, and version updates are always simple. You don't have to install it all, if you don't want to. xfce is the lightest of the 3 main desktop environments, so the next down are the likes of windowmaker, fluxbox, icewm, and enlightenment. Personally I'd go with fluxbox out of these, but that's largely personal preference. I like the taskbar and system tray support, icewm is similar, but seems less sophisticated and isn't really functional out-of the-box. If you want a desktop environment on top of a window manager you can use the rox ports to get session management, icons on the desktop, and a file manager. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
> xfce-4.6 is running here on a couple of machines, with none of those > problems. Those actually sound more like xorg problems. I don't think it's XORG for a couple of reasons: * when I first updated xfce, it didn't update xorg, and it was all working fine under xfce4 4.4 * problems don't seem to exist under fluxbox or twm > > and a couple minor ones: > > > > * XFCE menu doesn't work > > Which one? In what way? I miss the menu editor... The main menu off of the panel, which has a default icon of the rodent over a blue X. By doesn't work, I mean when you click on it nothing happens. > portdowngrade and some work can probably do it. If your problems are > really xorg related, changing window manager won't help. Looked into portdowngrade, and I may look into that further at some point. At this point, fluxbox seems to be pretty cool, and seems to be working. Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
> Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For > example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (# firefox). > Once you get the hang of its keybindings, which are vi-like, it's fun and > easy. It's also compatible with aterm, which will give you transparent > terminals (if that's something that interests you). > > Also, I highly recommend that you check out http://xwinman.org. I found it > to be fun and informative to peruse the list of wm's there. Thanks for the link. http://xwinman.org is pretty cool. I'm currently playing with fluxbox, and that seems to be working pretty well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
