Re: laser printer - which one?
I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under Windows. Slow? I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet. It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster. Someday I will get around to setting it up on FreeBSD :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under Windows. Slow? I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet. It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster. Someday I will get around to setting it up on FreeBSD :) Eeeek, I wanted to write fast, but was too tired and my English got worse. :) -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
David Kelly escribió: On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows (Just picking one answer from the bunch.) Thanks for the help to all of you! I got so many answers, that the choose were still difficult. :) Many of you mentioned Samsung printers, thus I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under Windows. Thanks again for the help! Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one? (Brother HL-2070N)
At Thu, 24 May 2007 it looks like Warren Block composed: On Thu, 24 May 2007, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. My suggestion would be a used HP LaserJet 4050, preferably with a JetDirect network interface. I've used them as network printers for FreeBSD with excellent results, they're built well and cheap to run. Have not tried toner refilling, though. You could probably buy a color laser with mostly-empty starter toner at this price, but replacing supplies could cost as much or more than the printer. I just purchased a Brother-2070N that works fine. $130.oo from Costco with a 1500 page toner cartdridge. It has a network interface built in too. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11037212whse=BCtopnav=browse= Shit... it's $40.oo cheaper this week than it was two weeks ago when I bought mine! -- Bill Schoolcraft * http://wiliweld.com Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:49:17PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2007, David Kelly wrote: Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP 4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother. I haven't found any printer that really works well with envelopes (unless you count some Pitney Bowes printers that are designed specifically for printing high volumes of flyers, envelopes and brochures). An original Apple Stylewriter 1200 was exceptional at envelopes. The printer most closely resembled the wringer on my grandmother's classic Maytag washer when I was a kid. Straight path, no bend, printer was about 3 thick. Have been feeding about 1500 envelopes per year between a pair of HP-990 and HP-970 inkjets. The older 970 is faster but doesn't fully release the envelope on eject and will wad it up if one doesn't pull it out before the next starts. The 990 often pauses before starting, then spends extra time with optical sensors looking for page edges. And about half the time pulls a #10 envelope thru cocked at an angle. I use them anyway. Recently the 990 feed screwed up to the point it was not usable. Took it out to the garage and blew it out with compressed air. Didn't find any smoking guns so I didn't have much hope, but that did the trick. Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been designing lasers lately. I have an HP Photosmart 7360 that I like, largely because I don't use it very much, and it's designed so that it can through long periods of inactivity without clogging the nozzles. In the HP print driver there is an option deep in the settings for black only. The default setting mixes color with black to print text. Black text looks awful if the color cartridge is empty, but perfectly good if you select the black only option. One thing I'm not happy about is that the printer flat out won't work without a color cartridge, no matter that I'm only printing black. Had an empty color cartridge go bad and the printer quit. Since then I've collected empties from friends to keep around so that the printer will still run if it decides the color cartridge must be replaced again. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
laser printer - which one?
Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. Thanks for the replies in advance, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
Gabor Kovesdan wrote: laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: I have an HP LaserJet 1200 at home that I've been *very* pleased with. It is out of production, but used ones are inexpensive ( $100 USD) and the 1300 is nearly identical. They're widely available on ebay. It has a real CPU (ie, not windoze controlled) with 8MB memory, native postscript, PCL 5, and PCL 6 at 15 pages/min and a 1/2 ream paper tray. Only possible drawback is it's USB. New toner carts' are $50 - $70 and yield 4000 - 6500 pages for me. The wife I have run over 30K pages through it in 4 years, no problems. Beware of the newer HP personal sized lasers -- many are windoze only. -RW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) I've had good experiences with HP laserjets. - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important Most laserprinters are 300 dpi these days. Good enough. - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows Get a printer that understands postscript. That works everwhere. As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. You can get a _new_ Color LaserJet 2605 for around € 300. I've seen used LaserJet 6L (B/W) printers for as little €25. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpwW8lwAjtgY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows About 14 months ago and 10,000 pages I bought a Brother HL-5250DN at Staples for $250. That seems to still be the going price. Have no regrets. Prints both sides, ethernet and USB interfaces, rated 30 ppm and prints faster than any printer we have at work. Postscript-3 clone and PCL-6. Works perfectly from MacOS and FreeBSD, altho I almost never use it from FreeBSD and can't really say I've given it a FreeBSD workout. As an early adopter it took a while for aftermarket refills to hit the market but the rated 7,000 page refill is under $20. Only difference I have noticed is the smell, and its only different, not better, not worse. Am a little concerned about the cost of replacing the drum, rated for 25,000 pages. Going rates for Bother toner + Brother drum is almost the same as a new HL-5250DN printer. With any luck the resurfaced drum companies will be ramped up by the time I need one. No point in running an envelope thru this printer, it wrinkles. Shortly after making my purchase some were running a special including an optional paper tray which would hold a full ream. The special bundled all that at the same $250 I paid. Have not seen that extra tray offered since. As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. If you are concerned about refill prices then I would expect color would be out of the question as operating costs are higher even when printing BW. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thursday, May 24, 2007, at 09:58AM, Gabor Kovesdan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* I've found that the price per page doesn't vary that much between printers. Some, but not that much. Its more a matter of how long you can go between replacing the toner. - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows I've used by Xerox a lot under MacOSX, FreeBSD (using CUPS mostly) and printed maybe 5 pages from Windows... It definitely works with FreeBSD. As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. I have a Phaser 6300. Xerox includes the .PDD file to make CUPS recognize all its features. Its priced a bit high for your requirements but a Phaser 6180 might be something you are interested in. http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-6180/enus.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. My suggestion would be a used HP LaserJet 4050, preferably with a JetDirect network interface. I've used them as network printers for FreeBSD with excellent results, they're built well and cheap to run. Have not tried toner refilling, though. You could probably buy a color laser with mostly-empty starter toner at this price, but replacing supplies could cost as much or more than the printer. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On May 24, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Roland Smith wrote: I've had good experiences with HP laserjets. Me too. But in my opinion HP now makes Good LaserJets, and Cheap LaserJets. Take your pick, they don't make exceptional LaserJets and sell them cheap. Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP 4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother. Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been designing lasers lately. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
On Thu, May 24, 2007, David Kelly wrote: On May 24, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Roland Smith wrote: I've had good experiences with HP laserjets. Me too. But in my opinion HP now makes Good LaserJets, and Cheap LaserJets. Take your pick, they don't make exceptional LaserJets and sell them cheap. I've been using an HP 4M+ with duplex since November 1995, and can't complain. Their quality may have slipped since then. Have been very happy with performance and operating costs of HP 4000's, 5000N, and 8100N. Couldn't find one used for what my Brother HL-5250DN cost new, so I bought the Brother. Only problem has been the HP's would print envelopes better than the Brother. I haven't found any printer that really works well with envelopes (unless you count some Pitney Bowes printers that are designed specifically for printing high volumes of flyers, envelopes and brochures). Have not been terribly happy with HP inkjets and my statement above is based on the apparent observation the HP inkjet crew has been designing lasers lately. I have an HP Photosmart 7360 that I like, largely because I don't use it very much, and it's designed so that it can through long periods of inactivity without clogging the nozzles. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``I don't care how little your country is, you got a right to run it like you want to. When the big nations quit meddling, then the world will have peace.'' Will Rogers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
