Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-06 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:54, Gabriel Striewe wrote:
 Hello!

 Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in
 OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much
 resources.


From other responses you'll see there are quite a number of options.

I guess you need to try a few to see which best suits what you have in mind.

I suggest you also take a look at xnview, at the very least it seems to be 
resource conservative. In addition it will handle many, many graphical 
formats, but does not itself generate graphics. You need something like xfig
or a paint program (or something else with which I probably have no 
experience) to do that. I also find xv handy for cropping and resizing.

Malcolm
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday,  5 October 2003 at  1:23:50 +0100, Rus Foster wrote:
 On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Gabriel Striewe wrote:

 Hello!

 Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in
 OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much
 resources.

 How about saving it as HTML then using netscape?

On Saturday,  4 October 2003 at 21:34:43 -0400, Todd Stephens wrote:
 On Saturday 04 October 2003 08:23 pm, Rus Foster wrote:

  How about saving it as HTML then using netscape?

 I think he wanted something that /wasn't/ a resource hog :-)

 Seriously, if you have KDE installed (which you probably don't if you
 are worried about system resources) there is KPresenter.  The HTML
 suggestion is a very valid one though, and there is a port for
 converting PowerPoint to html in /usr/ports/textproc/xlhtml  but I've
 never tried it.

 There are a few in the 'misc' ports.  Look for MagicPoint or Pointless.
 I think Pointless uses OpenGL, so you might not want that one either.
 There is another in /usr/ports/multimedia/slideshow that is supposedly
 very powerful.  I have only glanced at it.

I'd be very interested to hear from people who are picky, who have
actually used any of these packages, and who can tell me how to use
them well.  (Amongst other things, this is a roundabout way of saying
that I don't know anything good myself).

My issues are:

- OpenOffice: a real pig to work with.  I also have font problems
  which I'm sure I could fix if I found it worth the trouble, but
  after preparing a presentation with other people who didn't have the
  font problems, I don't think it's worth it.  OpenOffice is really a
  Microsoft clone, and it doesn't fit well into UNIX.

- MagicPoint: something to make the GUI approach look good.  Fonts are
  rough, features were pretty minimal when I tried it, and the syntax
  blows my mind.

I haven't tried the others.  I need something that will interface with
UNIX text files, and I suspect that MagicPoint's the only choice
there.

Personally, I use groff and ghostscript to create the slides in PDF
form (ghostview has a helper application called ps2pdf to create the
PDF), and then I use acroread to display them.  It works OK, but
acroread is very slow, and I'd be happy to find something better.

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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Rutishauser
Hi,

give the Latex Prosper Package a try (you have to fetch it separately).
With it you can create pdf files.

These you can present using xpdf -fullscreen  (I think xpdf doesn't need
too much ressources ;-))

Peschmä


Am Sun, 05 Oct 2003 02:24:33 +0200 schrieb Gabriel Striewe:

 Hello!
 
 Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in
 OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much
 resources.
 
 Thanks for any hints
 
 Gabriel
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Michal F. Hanula
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:24:33AM +0200, Gabriel Striewe wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in OpenOfficeImpress or 
 PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much resources.
 
 Thanks for any hints
What about OperaShow?
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/operashow/
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Todd Stephens
On Sunday 05 October 2003 02:56 am, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

  I'd be very interested to hear from people who are picky, who have
  actually used any of these packages, and who can tell me how to use
  them well.  (Amongst other things, this is a roundabout way of
 saying that I don't know anything good myself).

Out of the applications I mentioned the only one I have done any real 
work on was KPresenter.  It could certainly be more... (better?) ... 
but it was sufficient for my needs.  It lacks animation and is probably 
every bit the PowerPoint clone that OpenOffice is.  I stay away from 
OpenOffice as much as possible because it is such a resource pig.

  I haven't tried the others.  I need something that will interface
 with UNIX text files, and I suspect that MagicPoint's the only choice
 there.

Slideshow seems like an impressive application to me from looking at the 
web site http://www.alobbs.com/slideshow.  It has an option to create 
ASCII Slides, so I don't know if that means it can read from a text 
file or not.  I might try it out just to see, but I am trying to cut 
back on what I am installing these days.  The ports system almost makes 
it *too* easy to install things and I've gone a little crazy with it 
lately.

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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Todd Stephens
On Sunday 05 October 2003 09:22 am, Todd Stephens wrote:

  Slideshow seems like an impressive application to me from looking at
 the web site http://www.alobbs.com/slideshow.  It has an option to
 create ASCII Slides, so I don't know if that means it can read from
 a text file or not.  I might try it out just to see, but I am trying
 to cut back on what I am installing these days.  The ports system
 almost makes it *too* easy to install things and I've gone a little
 crazy with it lately.

Follow up to this.  Slideshow is indeed a very powerful presentation 
program.  The problem lies in figuring out how to use it.  It appears 
to me that you have to write the slides in XML, then program the actual 
slideshow in Python, since slideshow is apparently a Python module.  
The 'example' slideshow that is installed doesn't really tell me much, 
and the docs installed simply refer you to the sample slideshow.


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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 10:16:07AM +0200, Simon Rutishauser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 give the Latex Prosper Package a try (you have to fetch it separately).
 With it you can create pdf files.
 
 These you can present using xpdf -fullscreen  (I think xpdf doesn't need
 too much ressources ;-))
 
 Peschmä

I also recommend Prosper with LaTeX. It looks great - I have some up at
http://www.rospa.ca/documents/ under Presentations if anyone would
like to take a look. It presents well under acroread in full-screen
mode. xpdf -fullscreen also works well, though the slide transition
effects are lost (most likely considered a feature ;-) ).

-T


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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Rutishauser
Am Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:57:10 -0600 schrieb Tillman Hodgson:

 On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 10:16:07AM +0200, Simon Rutishauser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 give the Latex Prosper Package a try (you have to fetch it separately).
 With it you can create pdf files.
 
 These you can present using xpdf -fullscreen  (I think xpdf doesn't
 need too much ressources ;-))
 
 Peschmä
 
 I also recommend Prosper with LaTeX. It looks great - I have some up at
 http://www.rospa.ca/documents/ under Presentations if anyone would like
 to take a look. It presents well under acroread in full-screen mode. xpdf
 -fullscreen also works well, though the slide transition effects are lost
 (most likely considered a feature ;-) ).

Well, the transition effects look ugly and always the same. Thus I don't
use them ;-)

Anyway Acrobat Reader doesn't work properly on my system so I don't use
it. And it needs plenty of ressources...

Peschmä

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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:26:31 +0200, Michal F. Hanula 
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On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:24:33AM +0200, Gabriel Striewe wrote:
Hello!

Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in 
OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much 
resources.

What about OperaShow?
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/operashow/
A very good suggestion, as the pages can be written in HTML with CSS to 
change the presentation as appropriate when displaying on a website or as 
a series of slides.

The other benefit is when you are finished you can instantly put it on the 
web.

TjL

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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Todd Stephens
On Sunday 05 October 2003 07:26 am, Michal F. Hanula wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:24:33AM +0200, Gabriel Striewe wrote:
   Hello!
  
   Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in
   OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as
   much resources.
  
   Thanks for any hints

  What about OperaShow?
  http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/operashow/
   mf

Assuming one knows how to author an html document.  Is this part of the 
Opera port?  On the web page is says it is part of Opera for Windows, 
but does not mention it being part of Opera for Linux or otherwise.  It 
is an interesting idea though.

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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Michal F. Hanula
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:21:43PM -0400, Todd Stephens wrote:

   What about OperaShow?
   http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/operashow/
 
 Assuming one knows how to author an html document.  Is this part of the 
 Opera port?  On the web page is says it is part of Opera for Windows, 
 but does not mention it being part of Opera for Linux or otherwise.  It 
 is an interesting idea though.
It does work with native FreeBSD port at least since 6.11.
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-05 Thread Gabriel Striewe
Hello!

I found this website with information on LaTeX- and HTML-based screen presentation 
tools.

http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html

I hope this is any helpful.

Gabriel
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low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-04 Thread Gabriel Striewe
Hello!

Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in OpenOfficeImpress or 
PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much resources.

Thanks for any hints

Gabriel
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-04 Thread Rus Foster
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Gabriel Striewe wrote:

 Hello!

 Can anybody recommend a low-scale presentation programm in
 OpenOfficeImpress or PowerPoint style, but which does not use as much
 resources.

How about saving it as HTML then using netscape?

Rus
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Re: low-scale presenter for FreeBSD?

2003-10-04 Thread Todd Stephens
On Saturday 04 October 2003 08:23 pm, Rus Foster wrote:

  How about saving it as HTML then using netscape?

I think he wanted something that /wasn't/ a resource hog :-)

Seriously, if you have KDE installed (which you probably don't if you 
are worried about system resources) there is KPresenter.  The HTML 
suggestion is a very valid one though, and there is a port for 
converting PowerPoint to html in /usr/ports/textproc/xlhtml  but I've 
never tried it.

There are a few in the 'misc' ports.  Look for MagicPoint or Pointless.  
I think Pointless uses OpenGL, so you might not want that one either.  
There is another in /usr/ports/multimedia/slideshow that is supposedly 
very powerful.  I have only glanced at it.

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