I REPEAT: maxima can not be built, because gnuplot fails on download
Dear Dan: I don't want to cause people to jump up and down, but one fact I am absolutely certain of!, is the following; Take a hard-drive you can write on, burn a copy of FBSD 7.2 onto a CD, and do the basic install. Then, when the base system is up, run sysinstall and do a Configure followed by Packages. Then go to math and select maxima. Then watch. Gnuplot, a dependency of maxima will fail. And thus without using the -f flag (as part of a PKG_ADD command,) you can not load a recent copy of Maxima on FreeBSD. This is the case not only for 7.2, but it's been true since at least version 6.1 And Gnuplot seems to be missing something called PDFlib -- it may have been redacted by someone who decided that it wasn't supposed to be public, I don't know. But notice I am describing two problems. One, an install of Maxima fails using the package method, because Gnuplot doesn't install, and also, using the ports tree, (see, I'm not talking about a package anymore;) gnuplot fails to install because the PDFlib ports support file can not be found. Oddly, the package install failure, while it names gnuplot, doesn't correctly identify the problem. On several systems on which I've tried to do the maxima install, the error message identifies the problem as an I/O error. Only when I attempt the ports-install does the problem show up correctly, that gnuplot depends on PDFlib, which can not be found. Obviously I run maxima without gnuplot graphics. I just had to learn the work-around, not a big deal... I look at it this way... For me, getting maxima up on FreeBSD has taught me a lot about how FBSD is organized. But really, someone should take the time to make this a solved problem. I can make gnuplot work, but I don't have the authority to change the package content. A similar problem exists with clusterit. Most of the commands work just fine. But the semaphore control, (called guards in clusterit,) don't lock. They simply don't. The program probably works fine in Linux. But myself and a friend, who have about 85 years of programming experience couldn't make it work. We scrapped it and wrote our own tool to do this. I love FreeBSD and I continue to be very impressed with the quality of this OS, not just the core, not just the documentation, not just the applications, simply, it is truly a remarkable 'product'. The people who have contributed to making this work should know that they have really contributed. And I use FBSD heavily -- in fact I and a couple of friends put together a cluster of machines and we never saw any other OS as a good choice. These two problems are all I have; So you see, I'm not unhappy. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (Oct 20), Henry Olyer said: I have a fix for gnuplot; How do I get it reviewed and perhaps incorporated into FreeBSD? Notice, I am not saying gnuplot is bad, it just doesn't work, not since at least FBSD 6.1. Earlier than that I don't know. What errors are you getting? Portsmon says that gnuplot builds fine on all three branches: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=portname=gnuplot If you have a patch, send a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/problem-reports/article.html -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maxima can not be built, because gnuplot fails on download
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 09:59:51PM -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: I have a fix for gnuplot; How do I get it reviewed and perhaps incorporated into FreeBSD? Notice, I am not saying gnuplot is bad, it just doesn't work, not since at least FBSD 6.1. Earlier than that I don't know. Gnuplot builds and runs just fine here. I've been using it continuosly since 5.3-RELEASE, on both i386 and amd64 with the following options: # Options for gnuplot-4.2.4 _OPTIONS_READ=gnuplot-4.2.4 WITH_GD=true WITH_GRIDBOX=true WITH_PDF=true WITHOUT_PLOT=true WITHOUT_TETEX=true WITH_THINSPLINES=true WITHOUT_WX=true Is your ports tree up to date? Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpDoaUHCW0aq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I REPEAT: maxima can not be built, because gnuplot fails on download
In the last episode (Oct 21), Henry Olyer said: Take a hard-drive you can write on, burn a copy of FBSD 7.2 onto a CD, and do the basic install. Then, when the base system is up, run sysinstall and do a Configure followed by Packages. Then go to math and select maxima. Then watch. Gnuplot, a dependency of maxima will fail. And thus without using the -f flag (as part of a PKG_ADD command,) you can not load a recent copy of Maxima on FreeBSD. This is the case not only for 7.2, but it's been true since at least version 6.1 And Gnuplot seems to be missing something called PDFlib -- it may have been redacted by someone who decided that it wasn't supposed to be public, I don't know. But notice I am describing two problems. One, an install of Maxima fails using the package method, because Gnuplot doesn't install, and also, using the ports tree, (see, I'm not talking about a package anymore;) gnuplot fails to install because the PDFlib ports support file can not be found. I haven't had any problems building gnuplot or pdflib from source (and I haven't seen any complaints on the ports list either). You'll need to provide your error messages before we can help you with that. As for the maxima package install problem, gnuplot depends on pdflib, which is an optional component. pdflib has licensing restrictions that prevent a binary package from being created. There are a couple hundred ports like this, where they will build fine from ports but you aren't allowed to ship the binary. The gnuplot port should probably turn the pdflib option off when building packages for distribution (similar to how the audio/grip or audio/sox ports handle their dependency on audio/lame). If you build the pdflib port yourself, or build the gnuplot port and turn off the PDF option, then you'll be able to install the maxima package. It won't try and install things that are already on the system. Oddly, the package install failure, while it names gnuplot, doesn't correctly identify the problem. On several systems on which I've tried to do the maxima install, the error message identifies the problem as an I/O error. Only when I attempt the ports-install does the problem show up correctly, that gnuplot depends on PDFlib, which can not be found. Obviously I run maxima without gnuplot graphics. I just had to learn the work-around, not a big deal... I look at it this way... For me, getting maxima up on FreeBSD has taught me a lot about how FBSD is organized. But really, someone should take the time to make this a solved problem. I can make gnuplot work, but I don't have the authority to change the package content. A similar problem exists with clusterit. Most of the commands work just fine. But the semaphore control, (called guards in clusterit,) don't lock. They simply don't. The program probably works fine in Linux. But myself and a friend, who have about 85 years of programming experience couldn't make it work. We scrapped it and wrote our own tool to do this. If you can provide more detail, file a PR or post to the freebsd-ports mailing list and see if anyone else has seen the problem. I love FreeBSD and I continue to be very impressed with the quality of this OS, not just the core, not just the documentation, not just the applications, simply, it is truly a remarkable 'product'. The people who have contributed to making this work should know that they have really contributed. And I use FBSD heavily -- in fact I and a couple of friends put together a cluster of machines and we never saw any other OS as a good choice. These two problems are all I have; So you see, I'm not unhappy. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
maxima can not be built, because gnuplot fails on download
I have a fix for gnuplot; How do I get it reviewed and perhaps incorporated into FreeBSD? Notice, I am not saying gnuplot is bad, it just doesn't work, not since at least FBSD 6.1. Earlier than that I don't know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maxima can not be built, because gnuplot fails on download
In the last episode (Oct 20), Henry Olyer said: I have a fix for gnuplot; How do I get it reviewed and perhaps incorporated into FreeBSD? Notice, I am not saying gnuplot is bad, it just doesn't work, not since at least FBSD 6.1. Earlier than that I don't know. What errors are you getting? Portsmon says that gnuplot builds fine on all three branches: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=portname=gnuplot If you have a patch, send a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/problem-reports/article.html -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
