Re: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP

2002-11-08 Thread Matthew Seaman 
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:30:25PM -0800, twig les wrote:

 Hey all, after a bit of thinking and some looking thru
 email archives I'm still stumped on a way to get CPU,
 memory, disk I/O, disk use etc info from one
 machine to another without using SNMP.  All these
 boxes are FreeBSD 4.7 Release.

Check out Big Brother http://bb4.com/ -- it's not in ports, but it's
written in quite portable shell scripts, so you should be able to get
it running without too much hassle.  There's also a large library of
add-ons available at http://www.deadcat.net/ which should let you
monitor whatever you want.  Note that Big Brother is only free for
non-commercial use.

 So is anyone doing this?  The key I'm looking for is
 security, which negates SNMP.  Something small and
 secure with almost no extra features would be nice.

However you set it up, something of this nature will expose you to
extra security risks.  I wouldn't necessarily rate Big Brother as
particularly more secure than a well configured SNMP based system, but
BB is certainly easier to get right for first timers.

Cheers,

Matthew

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monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP

2002-11-07 Thread twig les 
Hey all, after a bit of thinking and some looking thru
email archives I'm still stumped on a way to get CPU,
memory, disk I/O, disk use etc info from one
machine to another without using SNMP.  All these
boxes are FreeBSD 4.7 Release.

I'm sure I could rig a script to ssh into the boxes
and do a df -h etc. and write the info to a file but
my gut tells me there is a MUCH better solution that
someone with far better programming skills has already
come up with and stuck in the ports collection.

So is anyone doing this?  The key I'm looking for is
security, which negates SNMP.  Something small and
secure with almost no extra features would be nice.

TIA

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RE: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP

2002-11-07 Thread chris scott 
better still why dont  you setup a simple vpn to to each host from the
monitoring box, and only bind the snmpd to the interal ip,
forewall off the public side totally. If all the machines are local then
just build a service network to run the snmp traffic over instead of the
vpn,
basically there are loads of ways you can secure the snmp traffic from
external prying eyes





I think trying to find a systems management/monitoring solution that doesn't
use snmp that is free might be difficult.  I'm sure there are applications
out there that will do what your looking for but that will have a daemon
running on your managed client, or, monitored system, and with that said,
then you have to start thinking about how to secure that.

If your worried about security and all of these machines are running
FreeBSD, then why not run ipfw or ipf on those machines to allow only those
machines you specify in?  That way you could run SNMP and do utilize snmp
queries to collect data.



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Subject: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP


Hey all, after a bit of thinking and some looking thru
email archives I'm still stumped on a way to get CPU,
memory, disk I/O, disk use etc info from one
machine to another without using SNMP.  All these
boxes are FreeBSD 4.7 Release.

I'm sure I could rig a script to ssh into the boxes
and do a df -h etc. and write the info to a file but
my gut tells me there is a MUCH better solution that
someone with far better programming skills has already
come up with and stuck in the ports collection.

So is anyone doing this?  The key I'm looking for is
security, which negates SNMP.  Something small and
secure with almost no extra features would be nice.

TIA

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