Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-07 Thread Gert Cuykens
> PS when i play a mp3 with xmms i can do as much as i want, it will
> never interfear with the playing music. With mplayer i can have for
> example a cash size of 10 secondes but after 10 seconds i can manege
> to do a buffer underrun.
> 
> How i can tell mplayer to do the same buffering as xmms ?
> 
solution: gmplayer -autosync 10 :)
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-07 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 03:42:05 -0800, Loren M. Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 01:59:39AM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote:
> > On Saturday 5 February 2005 02:50, Rob wrote:
> > > Jacob S wrote:
> > > > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui.
> > > > Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and
> > > > converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc.
> > > > and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
> > >
> > > How do you convert realmedia to other formats with
> > > mplayer?
> > > Or maybe first: how do you play realmedia streams
> > > with mplayer?
> > >
> > > I have installed:
> > >mplayer-gtk2-0.99.5_6
> > >linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1
> > >win32-codecs-2.1.0.p5,1
> > >
> > > I can't play realplay streams with mplayer.
> > > When I do:
> > >mplayer -vo x11 "rtsp://some.site.com/movie.rm";
> > >
> > > I get lots of output in my terminal, among wich I
> > > see:
> > >
> > >   Opening video decoder: [realvid] RealVideo decoder
> > >   opening shared obj
> > > '/usr/local/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0'
> > >   Error: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required
> > >   by "drv4.so.6.0" opening win32 dll 'drv4.so.6.0'
> > >
> > > But libc.so.6 is in /usr/compat/linux/lib. Hmm, why
> > > is that not found? I then did
> > >ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib
> > >
> > > That helped. I started mplayer again, but then
> > > mplayer crashed, as follows:
> > >
> > > [...snip...]
> > > ==
> > > Opening audio decoder: [realaud] RealAudio decoder
> > > opening shared obj '/usr/local/lib/win32/cook.so.6.0'
> > >
> > > MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module:
> > > init_audio_codec
> > > - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
> > >   It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your
> > >   drivers _or_ in your
> > >   gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault,
> > >   please read
> > >   DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the
> > >   instructions there. We can't and
> > >   won't help unless you provide this information when
> > >   reporting a possible bug.
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Any idea why I've got such problems with mplayer
> > > and real video streams?
> >
> > I never gotten it to work either, a few of the codecs do -- I think the 
> > win32
> > only ones, but not the Unix ones from linux-realplayer. I'm sure 
> > mplayer/xine
> > being natively compiled while the real codecs are mostly linux libraries via
> > compat must be the problem.
> >
> > If someone wants to fix this, do look at what NetBSD does. They have a
> > seperate real codecs package for it, I'm not sure what they do but their
> > mplayer/xine do work with the rv1 to 4 codecs, and no errors about cook and
> > all.
> 
> I've had problems getting mplayer and xine to work with real codecs on
> linux, some error with cook.dll or something.  I think it will only work
> with rp8 or rp9 codecs, but even though didn't work when I was running
> in linux.  I finally gave up and installed realplayer 10 which works
> good in both linux and freebsd.

Who needs realplayer anyway :P 

PS when i play a mp3 with xmms i can do as much as i want, it will
never interfear with the playing music. With mplayer i can have for
example a cash size of 10 secondes but after 10 seconds i can manege
to do a buffer underrun.

How i can tell mplayer to do the same buffering as xmms ?
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-07 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 01:59:39AM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Saturday 5 February 2005 02:50, Rob wrote:
> > Jacob S wrote:
> > > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui.
> > > Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and
> > > converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc.
> > > and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
> >
> > How do you convert realmedia to other formats with
> > mplayer?
> > Or maybe first: how do you play realmedia streams
> > with mplayer?
> >
> > I have installed:
> >mplayer-gtk2-0.99.5_6
> >linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1
> >win32-codecs-2.1.0.p5,1
> >
> > I can't play realplay streams with mplayer.
> > When I do:
> >mplayer -vo x11 "rtsp://some.site.com/movie.rm";
> >
> > I get lots of output in my terminal, among wich I
> > see:
> >
> >   Opening video decoder: [realvid] RealVideo decoder
> >   opening shared obj
> > '/usr/local/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0'
> >   Error: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required
> >   by "drv4.so.6.0" opening win32 dll 'drv4.so.6.0'
> >
> > But libc.so.6 is in /usr/compat/linux/lib. Hmm, why
> > is that not found? I then did
> >ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib
> >
> > That helped. I started mplayer again, but then
> > mplayer crashed, as follows:
> >
> > [...snip...]
> > ==
> > Opening audio decoder: [realaud] RealAudio decoder
> > opening shared obj '/usr/local/lib/win32/cook.so.6.0'
> >
> > MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module:
> > init_audio_codec
> > - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
> >   It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your
> >   drivers _or_ in your
> >   gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault,
> >   please read
> >   DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the
> >   instructions there. We can't and
> >   won't help unless you provide this information when
> >   reporting a possible bug.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Any idea why I've got such problems with mplayer
> > and real video streams?
> 
> I never gotten it to work either, a few of the codecs do -- I think the win32 
> only ones, but not the Unix ones from linux-realplayer. I'm sure mplayer/xine 
> being natively compiled while the real codecs are mostly linux libraries via 
> compat must be the problem.
> 
> If someone wants to fix this, do look at what NetBSD does. They have a 
> seperate real codecs package for it, I'm not sure what they do but their 
> mplayer/xine do work with the rv1 to 4 codecs, and no errors about cook and 
> all.

I've had problems getting mplayer and xine to work with real codecs on
linux, some error with cook.dll or something.  I think it will only work
with rp8 or rp9 codecs, but even though didn't work when I was running
in linux.  I finally gave up and installed realplayer 10 which works
good in both linux and freebsd.

> 
> Dan
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-06 Thread Danny Pansters
On Monday 7 February 2005 04:39, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> I installed them both and mplayer definitely rules it works excellent
> with the oss driver and i can setup my surround exactly as i want
> directing channels and it doesnt crashes playing a mp3 file :)

And with Real Media codecs?

Dan
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-06 Thread Gert Cuykens
I installed them both and mplayer definitely rules it works excellent
with the oss driver and i can setup my surround exactly as i want
directing channels and it doesnt crashes playing a mp3 file :)
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-06 Thread Danny Pansters
On Saturday 5 February 2005 02:50, Rob wrote:
> Jacob S wrote:
> > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui.
> > Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and
> > converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc.
> > and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
>
> How do you convert realmedia to other formats with
> mplayer?
> Or maybe first: how do you play realmedia streams
> with mplayer?
>
> I have installed:
>mplayer-gtk2-0.99.5_6
>linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1
>win32-codecs-2.1.0.p5,1
>
> I can't play realplay streams with mplayer.
> When I do:
>mplayer -vo x11 "rtsp://some.site.com/movie.rm";
>
> I get lots of output in my terminal, among wich I
> see:
>
>   Opening video decoder: [realvid] RealVideo decoder
>   opening shared obj
> '/usr/local/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0'
>   Error: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required
>   by "drv4.so.6.0" opening win32 dll 'drv4.so.6.0'
>
> But libc.so.6 is in /usr/compat/linux/lib. Hmm, why
> is that not found? I then did
>ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib
>
> That helped. I started mplayer again, but then
> mplayer crashed, as follows:
>
> [...snip...]
> ==
> Opening audio decoder: [realaud] RealAudio decoder
> opening shared obj '/usr/local/lib/win32/cook.so.6.0'
>
> MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module:
> init_audio_codec
> - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
>   It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your
>   drivers _or_ in your
>   gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault,
>   please read
>   DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the
>   instructions there. We can't and
>   won't help unless you provide this information when
>   reporting a possible bug.
>
> ==
>
> Any idea why I've got such problems with mplayer
> and real video streams?

I never gotten it to work either, a few of the codecs do -- I think the win32 
only ones, but not the Unix ones from linux-realplayer. I'm sure mplayer/xine 
being natively compiled while the real codecs are mostly linux libraries via 
compat must be the problem.

If someone wants to fix this, do look at what NetBSD does. They have a 
seperate real codecs package for it, I'm not sure what they do but their 
mplayer/xine do work with the rv1 to 4 codecs, and no errors about cook and 
all.

Dan
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:50:10 -0800 (PST)
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jacob S wrote:
> > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui.
> > Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and
> > converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc.
> > and I use the gui for watching videos and such. 
> 
> How do you convert realmedia to other formats with
> mplayer?
> Or maybe first: how do you play realmedia streams
> with mplayer?

I have mplayer download files and output them to wav format, then
convert them to ogg, mp3 or whatever smaller format I want. The command
I use for converting from realmedia to wav is below. Note, however, this
is for audio - wav, ogg and mp3 don't support video. 

mplayer -ao pcm -aofile outputfile.wav -vo null -vc dummy -playlist
http://sub.somedomain.com/path/file.ram
 
> I have installed:
>mplayer-gtk2-0.99.5_6
>linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1
>win32-codecs-2.1.0.p5,1
> 
> I can't play realplay streams with mplayer.
> When I do:
>mplayer -vo x11 "rtsp://some.site.com/movie.rm";

What happens if you drop the "-vo x11" options? mplayer is usually
pretty good at determining which driver to use, in my experience.

> I get lots of output in my terminal, among wich I
> see:
> 
>   Opening video decoder: [realvid] RealVideo decoder
>   opening shared obj
> '/usr/local/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0'
>   Error: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required
>   by "drv4.so.6.0" opening win32 dll 'drv4.so.6.0'
> 
> But libc.so.6 is in /usr/compat/linux/lib. Hmm, why
> is that not found? I then did
>ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib
> 
> That helped. I started mplayer again, but then
> mplayer crashed, as follows:
> 
> [...snip...]
> ==
> Opening audio decoder: [realaud] RealAudio decoder
> opening shared obj '/usr/local/lib/win32/cook.so.6.0'
> 
> MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module:
> init_audio_codec
> - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
>   It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your
>   drivers _or_ in your
>   gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault,
>   please read
>   DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the
>   instructions there. We can't and
>   won't help unless you provide this information when
>   reporting a possible bug.
> 
> ==
> 
> Any idea why I've got such problems with mplayer
> and real video streams?

hmm... It doesn't give a whole lot of information on why it crashed,
unfortunately. Perhaps a strace would give more clues? 

For video, I typically do a command more along the lines of "mplayer
-dumpfile somefile.rm -dumpstream
rtsp://sub.somedomain.com/path/file.ram";. This only downloads it,
instead of converting it, simply because I haven't found a good free
format to use instead of realmedia. :-( 

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Rob
Jacob S wrote:
> I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui.
> Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and
> converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc.
> and I use the gui for watching videos and such. 

How do you convert realmedia to other formats with
mplayer?
Or maybe first: how do you play realmedia streams
with mplayer?

I have installed:
   mplayer-gtk2-0.99.5_6
   linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1
   win32-codecs-2.1.0.p5,1

I can't play realplay streams with mplayer.
When I do:
   mplayer -vo x11 "rtsp://some.site.com/movie.rm";

I get lots of output in my terminal, among wich I
see:

  Opening video decoder: [realvid] RealVideo decoder
  opening shared obj
'/usr/local/lib/win32/drv4.so.6.0'
  Error: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required
  by "drv4.so.6.0" opening win32 dll 'drv4.so.6.0'

But libc.so.6 is in /usr/compat/linux/lib. Hmm, why
is that not found? I then did
   ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib

That helped. I started mplayer again, but then
mplayer crashed, as follows:

[...snip...]
==
Opening audio decoder: [realaud] RealAudio decoder
opening shared obj '/usr/local/lib/win32/cook.so.6.0'

MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module:
init_audio_codec
- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
  It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your
  drivers _or_ in your
  gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault,
  please read
  DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the
  instructions there. We can't and
  won't help unless you provide this information when
  reporting a possible bug.

==

Any idea why I've got such problems with mplayer
and real video streams?

Thanks.
Rob.

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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 02/04/05 04:20 PM, Jacob S sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 23:08:02 +0100
> Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:44:04 -0600, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100
> > > Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So who do you like the most and why ?
> > > 
> > > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the
> > > cli stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to
> > > wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
> > > 
> > > Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I
> > > have seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better
> > > than Mplayer.
> >
> > Is there not a mplayer fork for a better gui ?
> 
> Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. Mplayer already has a nice gui,

That is if you can get that gui to work.  It's always crashed for me,
but I use it from the command line a lot.

> I just prefer the layout of xine better. But you don't have to take
> my word for it - install both of them and see how you like them.

I think I'll check out xine.

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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 23:08:02 +0100
Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:44:04 -0600, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100
> > Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > So who do you like the most and why ?
> > 
> > I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the
> > cli stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to
> > wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
> > 
> > Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I
> > have seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better
> > than Mplayer.
>
> Is there not a mplayer fork for a better gui ?

Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. Mplayer already has a nice gui, I
just prefer the layout of xine better. But you don't have to take my
word for it - install both of them and see how you like them.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:44:04 -0600, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100
> Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So who do you like the most and why ?
> 
> I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the cli
> stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to
> wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such.
> 
> Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I have
> seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better than
> Mplayer.
> 
> Just my $0.02. YMMV.
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob

Is there not a mplayer fork for a better gui ?
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Re: mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100
Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So who do you like the most and why ?

I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the cli
stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to
wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such. 

Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I have
seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better than
Mplayer.

Just my $0.02. YMMV.

HTH,
Jacob
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mplayer vs xine

2005-02-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
So who do you like the most and why ?
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