new administrator: please help me choose news server

2004-04-12 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. I never did this before, but now I'll setup a mail server in the 
coming weeks. Here is the requirement:

1) the mail server should run both smtp and imap, sending and accepting 
emails
2) mail server should be able to ask for confirm before it deliever 
executables. Or it should be able to reject all emails with Windows 
executable file attached
3) should be albe to extend to handle multi-domains in the future

I don't really understand what part of email server is handled by what 
program. I thought I need a sendmail plus a imap server (cyrus comes out 
in my mind, but I don't know if it should be my choice), is that all?

I'm the kind of lazy guy not to RTFM, but I need direction guide, 
suggestion from you so that I know what the f**k manual to read:)

Thank you!
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Re: new administrator: please help me choose news server

2004-04-12 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote:

I'm the kind of lazy guy not to RTFM, but I need direction guide, 
suggestion from you so that I know what the f**k manual to read:)
Oh what a mistake. I am not English speaker. I meant to say "I'm not too 
lazy to RTFM but I still need directional suggestions on what manuals to 
read".
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Re: new administrator: please help me choose news server

2004-04-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 10:02:39AM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> Hello. I never did this before, but now I'll setup a mail server in the 
> coming weeks. Here is the requirement:
> 
> 1) the mail server should run both smtp and imap, sending and accepting 
> emails
> 2) mail server should be able to ask for confirm before it deliever 
> executables. Or it should be able to reject all emails with Windows 
> executable file attached
> 3) should be albe to extend to handle multi-domains in the future
> 
> I don't really understand what part of email server is handled by what 
> program. I thought I need a sendmail plus a imap server (cyrus comes out 
> in my mind, but I don't know if it should be my choice), is that all?
> 
> I'm the kind of lazy guy not to RTFM, but I need direction guide, 
> suggestion from you so that I know what the f**k manual to read:)

Hmmm... I judge that you need four components:

   i) An MTA -- this is the daemon that handles transmission of e-mail
  between sites.  It's the bit that speaks SMTP.  There are 4
  major implementations available of various degrees of
  popularity, with various pros and cons:

sendmail
exim
qmail
postfix

  There are others, including various 'all-in-one' mail solutions
  based on one or other of those packages.  You should also consider
  whether you need to provide 'SMTP AUTH' -- so your users have to
  authenticate themselves before they can inject a new message into the
  system via your server.  (All of those MTAs can provide that, but
  usually require some extra software libraries to be linked in with
  them).

  ii) An IMAP server.  Again, there are several choices available, but
  which one you choose depends in part on:

 iii) A delivery agent.  This actually defines the format in which
  e-mail mailboxes are stored.

  The choice of formatis is basically:

mbox -- the traditional format provided under Unix: almost all
delivery agents (and IMAP daemons) will deal with this
format, but of note are mail.local(1) and procmail(1)

Maildir -- As used by the courier system.  Also handled by
procmail(1)

Cyrus -- essentially requires you to use the rest of the Cyrus
system for your mail server.

   Thus if you choose mbox format you can use dovecot, UW imapd or
   dkimap4.  For Maildir, you can use dovecot, UW imapd, bincimap
   or courier-imap.  (Personally, I prefer to use dovecot for the
   security features).

   iv) An anti-virus/anti-spam solution, which will let you filter out
   MS executables.  Having the server *ask* for confirmation on
   sending questionable content is probably not the right thing to
   do.  If user interaction is required, it should be provided by
   the users' mail program running on their desktop.  The server
   should implement your policy as a simple accept/reject of the
   message (although you could choose to accept, but mark the
   message as probably infected or spam).  Look at:

 Spam Assassin (the port is called p5-Mail-SpamAssassin)
 clamav anti-virus
 Amavisd -- lets you integrate all sorts of AV and anti-spam solutions
into various Unix mail systems.

Another consideration you will want to bear in mind: do you want to
give all of your e-mail users full blown accounts on your mail server,
or do you want to provide and 'e-mail only' service?  If the latter,
you will need to look at the more 'professional' solutions, which are
designed to work generally on a larger scale and which tend to be a
bit more complicated to set up.  The Cyrus stuff is the extreme
expression of that.

I hope that gives you sufficient ammunition for you to be able to
better target your searches for more information.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: new administrator: please help me choose news server

2004-04-13 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Matthew Seaman wrote:

Another consideration you will want to bear in mind: do you want to
give all of your e-mail users full blown accounts on your mail server,
or do you want to provide and 'e-mail only' service?  If the latter,
you will need to look at the more 'professional' solutions, which are
designed to work generally on a larger scale and which tend to be a
bit more complicated to set up.  The Cyrus stuff is the extreme
expression of that.
 

Oh I'm a new administrator, I'm frightened:) It seems if I want it to 
extend to max ability in future I should use Cyrus. I'll search more on 
this topic.
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Re: new administrator: please help me choose news server

2004-04-13 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 13 Apr Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> Oh I'm a new administrator, I'm frightened:) It seems if I want it to
> extend to max ability in future I should use Cyrus. I'll search more
> on this topic.

I would search more on the total solution wich courier provides. Very
easy to set up, secure, webmail, faq, imap/pop3-ssl, human readable
mailfilter language, LDAP, etc..

http://www.courier-mta.org

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