Re: next episode, continuing saga
On Friday 22 September 2006 15:36, Josh Tolbert wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:27:11AM -0500, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > > Really? I've never seen a mobo... well, you learn something new every > > day. :-D > > Yeah, I'd never seen a whole motherboard get toasted cause of that, but I > suppose it could happen. > > Thanks, > Josh That's why I never by lottery tickets. In over 2 decades working with PCs, the only time I saw a crash (not a toast!) was when I unplugged a keyboard from a PC-XT. The AT boards didn't do that anymore. And beleive me, I have done these swapings many,many,many,many, many times over, continued using the machine and NEVER smelled anything burning. But a new thing is a new thing and I am a fast learner, so, agreeing with Josh, I too suppose it could happen. -- //| //| // |// | // // | // // -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ipad.com.br (FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:27:11AM -0500, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > Really? I've never seen a mobo... well, you learn something new every > day. :-D Yeah, I'd never seen a whole motherboard get toasted cause of that, but I suppose it could happen. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
On 22 September 2006, at 10:03, Robert Huff wrote: Josh Tolbert writes: Actually, not quite. If the keyboard and mouse are PS/2, then they are not technically hot-swappable. Lots of people get away with it just fine, but every now and then someone fries a keyboard controller s/keyboard controller/keyboard controller or even motherboard/ Really? I've never seen a mobo... well, you learn something new every day. :-D Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? intel & nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large attachments: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPS-related stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xfire: hackmiester ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: On 22 September 2006, at 09:24, Greg Groth wrote: Mario Lobo wrote: On Friday 22 September 2006 02:33, Bill Moran wrote: jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello again; With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine is running? AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to switch the monitor to another machine. Yes. It's safe to do that with any OS I'm familiar with. And the keyboard & mouse too. The keyboard and mouse are NOT supposed to be hot plugged if they are PS/2 (although I must admit I haven't had any issues, but I wouldn't risk a dead PS/2 controller on a production box). USB ones don't care. The neat thing about that is you can have your machine boot with no keyboard, you can plug in a USB one and then hook up a monitor and have a head all of a sudden. This is handy when your box's sshd dies for some reason, which has happened to me once... I've never had any issues, provided I set the option to NOT halt on keyboard errors at boot in the bios. Best regards, Greg Groth I've never hot-swapped a keyboard, although I have unplugged one from a running machine with no issues. Best regards, Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
Josh Tolbert writes: > Actually, not quite. If the keyboard and mouse are PS/2, then they are not > technically hot-swappable. Lots of people get away with it just fine, but > every now and then someone fries a keyboard controller s/keyboard controller/keyboard controller or even motherboard/ Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
On 22 September 2006, at 09:24, Greg Groth wrote: Mario Lobo wrote: On Friday 22 September 2006 02:33, Bill Moran wrote: jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello again; With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine is running? AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to switch the monitor to another machine. Yes. It's safe to do that with any OS I'm familiar with. And the keyboard & mouse too. The keyboard and mouse are NOT supposed to be hot plugged if they are PS/2 (although I must admit I haven't had any issues, but I wouldn't risk a dead PS/2 controller on a production box). USB ones don't care. The neat thing about that is you can have your machine boot with no keyboard, you can plug in a USB one and then hook up a monitor and have a head all of a sudden. This is handy when your box's sshd dies for some reason, which has happened to me once... I've never had any issues, provided I set the option to NOT halt on keyboard errors at boot in the bios. Best regards, Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? intel & nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large attachments: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPS-related stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xfire: hackmiester ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 07:41:02AM +, Mario Lobo wrote: > And the keyboard & mouse too. Actually, not quite. If the keyboard and mouse are PS/2, then they are not technically hot-swappable. Lots of people get away with it just fine, but every now and then someone fries a keyboard controller hot-plugging PS/2 peripherals. If they're USB, fine...PS/2, not so fine. Lots of people get away with it, but hot-swap/plug is not part of the PS/2 spec...So don't complain if something breaks. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
Mario Lobo wrote: On Friday 22 September 2006 02:33, Bill Moran wrote: jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello again; With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine is running? AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to switch the monitor to another machine. Yes. It's safe to do that with any OS I'm familiar with. And the keyboard & mouse too. I've never had any issues, provided I set the option to NOT halt on keyboard errors at boot in the bios. Best regards, Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
On Friday 22 September 2006 02:33, Bill Moran wrote: > jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello again; > > With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off > > is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine > > is running? > > AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS > > motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. > > > > want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to > > switch the monitor to another machine. > > Yes. It's safe to do that with any OS I'm familiar with. And the keyboard & mouse too. -- //| //| // |// | // // | // // -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ipad.com.br (FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: next episode, continuing saga
jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again; > With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off > is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine > is running? > AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS > motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. > > want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to > switch the monitor to another machine. Yes. It's safe to do that with any OS I'm familiar with. -- Bill Moran Someting happened or something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
next episode, continuing saga
Hello again; With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine is running? AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference. want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to switch the monitor to another machine. Thanks to the gracious responses on previous queries I don't have to buy another KVM switch. Jeff K ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
