Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-19 Thread Aaron Siegel
On Sunday 18 September 2005 10:08 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
 On 18 Sep Roland Smith wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
   What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
   mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can
   use for all three of them?
 
  Depends on when you mean with communicate.
 
  For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
  /usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from
  the FreeBSD that the others can connect to.

 Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
 machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
 will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
 they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)

SMB/CIFS is a peer to peer protocol so you will be able to share files between 
any of your computers. So your son and daughter will be able to share files 
between themself directly. 

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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-19 Thread Garrett Cooper


On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:38 AM, Aaron Siegel wrote:


On Sunday 18 September 2005 10:08 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


On 18 Sep Roland Smith wrote:


On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:


What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can
use for all three of them?



Depends on when you mean with communicate.

For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
/usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from
the FreeBSD that the others can connect to.



Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)



SMB/CIFS is a peer to peer protocol so you will be able to share  
files between
any of your computers. So your son and daughter will be able to  
share files

between themself directly.


For communicating between the Mac/FBSD and the Windows machine,  
use SMB/CIFS. However, when communicating between your Mac and your  
FBSD machine, use NFS. I have Tiger and I can prove through testing  
that performance is better for NFS when communicating amongst the  
Unix based hosts. When dealing with Windows it's just easier to use  
SMB/CIFS as it is included with Windows already.

-Garrett

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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-19 Thread jonas
hi!

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:08:20 +0200
Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
 machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
 will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
 they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)

as osx is based on freebsd... is mount_smbfs still present? if so,
one of the easiest ways should be to share a folder on the windows
machine and the mount it from the osx box (see: man mount_smbfs).

alternatively you could install a nfs client (nfsAxe is one i recall) on
the windows box and use NFS to share files. 
i would prefer this one, since i don't like smb.

after all, why are _you_ trying to find out, how your kids can keep
things secret from you? let them figure out :-P

greetz,
jonas
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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-19 Thread Garrett Cooper

jonas wrote:


hi!

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:08:20 +0200
Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 


Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)
   



as osx is based on freebsd... is mount_smbfs still present? if so,
one of the easiest ways should be to share a folder on the windows
machine and the mount it from the osx box (see: man mount_smbfs).

alternatively you could install a nfs client (nfsAxe is one i recall) on
the windows box and use NFS to share files. 
i would prefer this one, since i don't like smb.


after all, why are _you_ trying to find out, how your kids can keep
things secret from you? let them figure out :-P

greetz,
jonas

   Although MacOSX is FreeBSD based, it's somewhat dangerous to deal 
with the non-GUI based UI junk as the Unix commands don't tie into the 
OS very well, IMO.
   That was the only sad thing about OSX for me I discovered, but Apple 
probably thought that people would like to connect to servers via the 
GUI method more than the CLI based command =\.
   If you need scriptability, there're always Applescript and the 
Automator in 10.4 that ties in with Apple's stuff quite nicely.

-Garrett
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osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
for all three of them?

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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
 mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
 for all three of them?

Depends on when you mean with communicate. 

For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
/usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from the
FreeBSD that the others can connect to.

Roland
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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Robert Slade
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 12:36, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
 mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
 for all three of them?

Dick,

You could use VNC one each of the machines to export their desktops.

Rob

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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 18 Sep Roland Smith wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
  What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
  mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can
  use for all three of them?
 
 Depends on when you mean with communicate. 
 
 For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
 /usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from
 the FreeBSD that the others can connect to.

Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)

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