Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:10:15 -0600
"Andrew Falanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/24/07, Nikola Lecic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600
> >
> > (3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
> > lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
> > important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just
> > to type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD
> > version.
> >
> 
> Thank you for the great notes!  I'm not necessarily hung up on WebGUI.

I thought that you maybe already had a WebGUI content and that you
now want to switch to FreeBSD server. Again, you can try to make WebGUI
working; but build WebGUI only (with --wre), not other things,
including Perl. Build them from their FreeBSD ports and link WebGUI
scripts with them.

>  That was a flashy system that appealed to others in the church and
> was just their first choice.  I do not believe they would be of the
> mind set "WebGUI or nothing!" so what other choices are there?  Your
> point above makes me think there are ported CMS packages within the
> ports collection?  Is this true?  If so, are they comparable to WebGUI
> in capability?

Of course, there are many of them, they are inside www (www/plone,
www/joomla, www/tikiwiki...). I recommend you to start a new thread
about CMS ideas, this will pass unnoticed under current subject. Write
exactly what features/capabilities you need (Perl-based?
wiki-like? ...), and people with experience with them will answer (I
have never used any, except little TikiWiki, long ago).

Nikola Lečić
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Falanga
On 8/24/07, Nikola Lecic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600
>
> (3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
> lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
> important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just to
> type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD version.
>

Thank you for the great notes!  I'm not necessarily hung up on WebGUI.
 That was a flashy system that appealed to others in the church and
was just their first choice.  I do not believe they would be of the
mind set "WebGUI or nothing!" so what other choices are there?  Your
point above makes me think there are ported CMS packages within the
ports collection?  Is this true?  If so, are they comparable to WebGUI
in capability?

Andy
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Falanga
On 8/23/07, Foo JH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried simply installed Perl from the packages in the FreeBSD
> install CD?
>

Yes, I installed perl from ports.

Andy
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600
"Andrew Falanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install WebGUI on a FreeBSD system for my church.
> WebGUI uses PERL for its operation.  The program has a test
> environment perl script that it tries to run to make sure the
> environment can run WebGUI.  On a couple of the perl modules it tries
> to install, it bails saying that "make" is no good.
> 
> I'm guessing this is because perl is expecting GNU make not BSD make,
> and since it's looks for /usr/bin/make, I'm sure it's getting the
> wrong version.  I'm pretty much a perl neophyte, having written only
> one perl script in my life and that was so pitifully little that it
> really wasn't worthy of being called a script; I do not know how to
> fix this.  How does one fix the configuration of perl (if this is even
> the problem, I'm going to try and see if this is something WebGUI is
> trying to use).

Hello Andrew,

This application needs good Porting. Unfortunatelly, many applications
advertise themselves like "Runs on Linux/BSD/Solaris/AIX/." while
taking zero or close to zero care of anything but Linux. This is
visible in the fact that WebGUI sctipts do no inspection regarding
available make versions and for example in their assuming that bash
surely lives in /bin.

Here are several notes on what you can do:

(1) you have to manually replace all occurences of 'make' with 'gmake',
at least in build.sh. If the script itself fails, run it manually
with /usr/local/bin/bash or change bash path(s);

(2) please note that build.sh with no arguments will actually build not
just Perl, but Apache, ImageMagick, AwStats, several Perl modules,
MySQL and many other things as well, which doesn't make much sense.
It seems that you have to run it with

  # /usr/local/bin/bash build.sh --wre

with all prerequisites (you must gather them by hand from the
installation scripts) previously installed from ports. But it's very
likely that the script will not find all it needs itself and that
you must help it manually. A short inspection shows that you need

   databases/memcached
   graphics/ImageMagick
   databases/mysql...
   www/apache...
   www/awstats
   www/mod_perl
   ftp/lftp

and many more, including a huge number of Perl modules. Some of
these apps maybe have to be built with special options.

Any you still have to take care about paths the scripts use after
the installation in order to get WebGUI fully working.

(3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just to
type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD version.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-23 Thread Foo JH
Have you tried simply installed Perl from the packages in the FreeBSD 
install CD?


Andrew Falanga wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to install WebGUI on a FreeBSD system for my church.
WebGUI uses PERL for its operation.  The program has a test
environment perl script that it tries to run to make sure the
environment can run WebGUI.  On a couple of the perl modules it tries
to install, it bails saying that "make" is no good.

I'm guessing this is because perl is expecting GNU make not BSD make,
and since it's looks for /usr/bin/make, I'm sure it's getting the
wrong version.  I'm pretty much a perl neophyte, having written only
one perl script in my life and that was so pitifully little that it
really wasn't worthy of being called a script; I do not know how to
fix this.  How does one fix the configuration of perl (if this is even
the problem, I'm going to try and see if this is something WebGUI is
trying to use).

Andy
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perl configuration question

2007-08-23 Thread Andrew Falanga
Hi,

I'm trying to install WebGUI on a FreeBSD system for my church.
WebGUI uses PERL for its operation.  The program has a test
environment perl script that it tries to run to make sure the
environment can run WebGUI.  On a couple of the perl modules it tries
to install, it bails saying that "make" is no good.

I'm guessing this is because perl is expecting GNU make not BSD make,
and since it's looks for /usr/bin/make, I'm sure it's getting the
wrong version.  I'm pretty much a perl neophyte, having written only
one perl script in my life and that was so pitifully little that it
really wasn't worthy of being called a script; I do not know how to
fix this.  How does one fix the configuration of perl (if this is even
the problem, I'm going to try and see if this is something WebGUI is
trying to use).

Andy
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