Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone - Fixed.

2012-01-22 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of January 15, 2012 10:09:06 AM -0500, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
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I was trying out portmaster to see if it worked better than my current
tool of choice for keeping my ports up to date (portmanager) and when I
went back to portmanager I can no longer get it to give me a 'Port Status
Report', or to update anything.  It just collects the installed port
data, and stops.

Any ideas on what I may have messed up?  I'd like to upgrade my ports to
the latest versions before upgrading to 9.0 (and I'd want portmanager
working afterwards to help me fix any port-related problems that come
up.) I'm on 8.2.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Not really 'solved' in that I still don't know what the problem was, but 
running portupgrade once fixed it.  (I let it upgrade a couple of ports, 
but not all of them.)


Leaving this here for whomever has this problem next.

Daniel T. Staal

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Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Daniel Staal


I was trying out portmaster to see if it worked better than my current tool 
of choice for keeping my ports up to date (portmanager) and when I went 
back to portmanager I can no longer get it to give me a 'Port Status 
Report', or to update anything.  It just collects the installed port data, 
and stops.


Any ideas on what I may have messed up?  I'd like to upgrade my ports to 
the latest versions before upgrading to 9.0 (and I'd want portmanager 
working afterwards to help me fix any port-related problems that come up.) 
I'm on 8.2.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:09:06 -0500
Daniel Staal articulated:

 I was trying out portmaster to see if it worked better than my
 current tool of choice for keeping my ports up to date (portmanager)
 and when I went back to portmanager I can no longer get it to give me
 a 'Port Status Report', or to update anything.  It just collects the
 installed port data, and stops.
 
 Any ideas on what I may have messed up?  I'd like to upgrade my ports
 to the latest versions before upgrading to 9.0 (and I'd want
 portmanager working afterwards to help me fix any port-related
 problems that come up.) I'm on 8.2.

Exactly how are you invoking portmanager? Usually, just give it it the
-s flag will get you a list of port and there status as you probably
know.

If you just want to update everything before updating FreeBSD itself, I
would suggest running it as: portmanager -u -l -p -y Obviously,
update your ports tree prior to running that command. At the very
least, you will end up with a log file telling you what failed to
update properly.

I use portmanager myself because it just works when other port
management tools fail.

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of January 15, 2012 10:33:32 AM -0500, Jerry is alleged to have said:


Exactly how are you invoking portmanager? Usually, just give it it the
-s flag will get you a list of port and there status as you probably
know.


Yep.  I have that in a weekly cron command, so I know what's out of date. 
;)


Basically, any way I invoke portmanager is showing the problem: If I invoke 
with -s, the status doesn't show.  If I invoke with -u, it doesn't upgrade 
anything.  Either way the result is the same: It gathers all the data on 
the ports (at least to 1), and then prints the header for the next 
section and quits, without actually doing anything.



If you just want to update everything before updating FreeBSD itself, I
would suggest running it as: portmanager -u -l -p -y Obviously,
update your ports tree prior to running that command. At the very
least, you will end up with a log file telling you what failed to
update properly.


The problem is that it's not *getting* to the updating, somehow.  It 
gathers all the info on what it needs to know for the updating, and then 
stops.  No error message, no output, no log, just stop.  Running that 
command (or any other) doesn't result in portmanager actually *doing* 
anything.


Here is the last four lines of output of a `portmanager -u -l`:


1 sane-backends-1.0.22 /graphics/sane-backends

 Port Status Report



The log noted two broken ports (geany-plugins, both times).  No other 
output.



I use portmanager myself because it just works when other port
management tools fail.


This has been my experience as well.  ;)  The one thing I don't like about 
it is that it tends to need someone to watch it: If a port has changed it's 
config options, or added a new dependency that I haven't configured before, 
it will pull up the config screen and wait for input.  I'd heard some of 
the other port management tools went and did that all at the beginning, 
which would mean I wouldn't have to sit and watch the screen as much. 
Unfortunatly, they appear to have more annoying behaviors.  (portmaster 
tended to die on the smallest problem, where portmanager would have just 
logged a failure and gone on.)


I'm mostly happy with portmanager.  I just want it *back.*

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:48:55 -0500
Daniel Staal articulated:

Well, you might try and deinstall and then reinstall portmanager.
Perhaps something got corrupted, although I don't know why that might
have happened.

I have BATCH=yes set in the /etc/make.conf file to avoid receiving
those annoying config screens. Of course that does require you to
insure that your ports are configured the way you want them prior to
updating them. I don't find it a problem; however, others might.

By the way, how do you update your ports tree? Perhaps something got
corrupted there. I use portsnap myself, so you could use it to just
create a new tree thereby over writing the old one. Just a thought.

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of January 15, 2012 12:25:47 PM -0500, Jerry is alleged to have said:


Well, you might try and deinstall and then reinstall portmanager.
Perhaps something got corrupted, although I don't know why that might
have happened.


No joy.  Worth a try though.  ;)

My suspicion is that it's a permissions issue someplace, somehow: I was 
trying portmaster in it's 'run as wheel, sudo to root when needed' mode, 
and it kept throwing permissions errors at me which I fixed for a while. 
(Before reverting to just running it as root.)


Of course, I'm running *portmanager* as root, so...  (Both under sudo, and 
from root's cron.)



I have BATCH=yes set in the /etc/make.conf file to avoid receiving
those annoying config screens. Of course that does require you to
insure that your ports are configured the way you want them prior to
updating them. I don't find it a problem; however, others might.


Interesting.  I'll keep that in mind.  Something to take a look at once 
I've gotten this solved.  ;)



By the way, how do you update your ports tree? Perhaps something got
corrupted there. I use portsnap myself, so you could use it to just
create a new tree thereby over writing the old one. Just a thought.


I have csup set to run once a week in cron.  I don't think that corrupted 
anything: `portmanager -s -y` ran fine before I ran portmaster, and I 
didn't update the tree in between.  But blowing away the tree and 
re-creating it is starting to sound like something worth a try.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:01:23 -0500
Daniel Staal articulated:

 I have csup set to run once a week in cron.  I don't think that
 corrupted anything: `portmanager -s -y` ran fine before I ran
 portmaster, and I didn't update the tree in between.  But blowing
 away the tree and re-creating it is starting to sound like something
 worth a try.

You don't have to manually erase the tree. I believe that:

portsnap fetch extract

is all you need to do to replace the ports tree with a fresh copy. It
won't hurt anything since it doesn't touch the configuration files.

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Re: Portmanager Status Report Gone

2012-01-15 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of January 15, 2012 3:35:20 PM -0500, Jerry is alleged to have said:


You don't have to manually erase the tree. I believe that:

portsnap fetch extract

is all you need to do to replace the ports tree with a fresh copy. It
won't hurt anything since it doesn't touch the configuration files.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Done, and it didn't fix my problem.  Something's obviously gone seriously 
weird with my system.


What would happen if I did blow away the config files?  What's the minimum 
necessary for my system to be able to manage it's ports collection?  I 
really don't want to reinstall from scratch over this (If nothing else, 
it's my main fileserver.  I've got backups, but that would take ages.), but 
I'm thinking rebuilding my ports database from bare bones sounds like it 
might be a good idea.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: portmanager status?

2006-01-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:44:09PM -0800, Micah wrote:
 Craig Deal wrote:
 I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from
 the ports collection. The MOVED file said
 sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to
 distribute. Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is
 this temporary?
 
 Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user.
 Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it.
 
 Thanks,
 Craig
 
 Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html
 I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree 
 because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports.
 
 Sounds pretty permanent to me.

Someone else might take over development..assuming it was under an
open source license, there's nothing the author can do to stop them.

Kris


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Re: portmanager status?

2006-01-20 Thread cpghost
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:44:09PM -0800, Micah wrote:
 Craig Deal wrote:
 I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from
 the ports collection. The MOVED file said
 sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to
 distribute. Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is
 this temporary?
 
 Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user.
 Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it.
 
 Thanks,
 Craig
 
 Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html
 I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree 
 because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports.
 
 Sounds pretty permanent to me.
 
 Use portupgrade.

Eww... :)

portupgrade with its ruby dependency? Actually portmanager was/is
a very good replacement for portupgrade, lightweight, C-based, and
its author was pretty helpful in the past providing quick fixes
and help on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 HTH,
 Micah

Regards,
-cpghost.

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Re: portmanager status?

2006-01-20 Thread Greg Barniskis

Micah wrote:


Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html
I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree 
because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports.


Sounds pretty permanent to me.

Use portupgrade.


The web site in question seems to have been updated to state that 
portmanager will remain in (return to?) the FreeBSD ports collection.



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portmanager status?

2006-01-19 Thread Craig Deal
I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from
the ports collection. The MOVED file said
sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to
distribute. Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is
this temporary?

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user.
Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it.

Thanks,
Craig
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Re: portmanager status?

2006-01-19 Thread Craig Deal
On 1/19/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try portupgrade.  It's what most people use.

 Kris


Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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Re: portmanager status?

2006-01-19 Thread Micah

Craig Deal wrote:

I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from
the ports collection. The MOVED file said
sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to
distribute. Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is
this temporary?

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user.
Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it.

Thanks,
Craig


Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html
I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree 
because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports.


Sounds pretty permanent to me.

Use portupgrade.

HTH,
Micah
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