ports cd
hi all is it possible to download a cd of the ports so i can use it on a standaloan machine arden ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports cd
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 12:27:54PM +0100, arden wrote: is it possible to download a cd of the ports so i can use it on a standaloan machine There isn't an iso image of the ports tree available as such. There's a split up tar-ball of the ports tree created for each release, which is what you download when you say 'install the ports' from within sysinstall. On the whole though, grabbing an up to date copy on a connected machine via cvsup(1) would be your best bet. Generating a CD Rom containing those files shouldn't be too difficult: there are all sorts of ways of doing it, but start out by looking at the sysutils/cdrtool port as an example. Note that the ports tree isn't much use on it's own on an isolated machine: you will need to include all of the distfiles for any port you want to build, and for all dependencies of that port. You can obtain those by running: # make fetch-recursive in the appropriate port directory, or there are ways of using the '-F' flag to portinstall to do the equivalent. Alternatively, build packages (including any dependencies) on your well-connected machine to install on the other one -- there's a 'package-recursive' make target you can use for that. If the problem is that the well-connected machine you have isn't actually a FreeBSD box, then you can grab: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz That is a snapshot of the ports tree recreated at frequent intervals -- see the README.TXT file in the same directory. But you still need to solve the problem of grabbing all of the distfiles for anything you want to install. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpFQcgVYsTHj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ports cd
Howdy, hi all is it possible to download a cd of the ports so i can use it on a standaloan machine The entire ports collection would not fit on a CD or even a boxful of CDs. Someone counted a little while ago and found there were more than 10,000 ports available in the system. I think you may be misunderstanding the ports system and the way it works. It is a bit confusing because the word 'ports' is gets used to refer to two different things; the ports system that handles downloading and installing extra utilities and those extra utilities themselves. So, you use the ports system to install ports... When you install the 'ports' system you really only install the skeleton for the installation of 'ports'. It is a bunch of makefiles and lists of files and the addresses of where to get them for download, etc. When system (and ports system) installation is complete, you can cd in to the /usr/ports/ tree and find whatever you want and type make and when it finishes, make install and the ports system will go out to whatever maintainer is distributing that particular port, download it, configure it, compile it, download and install any dependancies and then finally install the port you want - all magically before your very eyes. Do this for each port you want installed. Notice by this, that the actual ports are kept in source form by the various maintainers. Some of them also build packages of their ports, but not all of them do that (I would guess, most don't) A few, such as OpenOffice are so big and take so long to build and depend on so many things that it is convenient to just install their premade package rather than building it all from ports. But most are not that big and take only a couple of minutes or so, depending on your network and machine speed. So, there is not benefit in creating binary install packages for them - and some significant disadvantages. So, more than you wanted to know, but what you need to know, jerry arden ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports cd
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 15:31, Jerry McAllister wrote: Howdy, hi all is it possible to download a cd of the ports so i can use it on a standaloan machine The entire ports collection would not fit on a CD or even a boxful of CDs. Someone counted a little while ago and found there were more than 10,000 ports available in the system. I think you may be misunderstanding the ports system and the way it works. It is a bit confusing because the word 'ports' is gets used to refer to two different things; the ports system that handles downloading and installing extra utilities and those extra utilities themselves. So, you use the ports system to install ports... When you install the 'ports' system you really only install the skeleton for the installation of 'ports'. It is a bunch of makefiles and lists of files and the addresses of where to get them for download, etc. When system (and ports system) installation is complete, you can cd in to the /usr/ports/ tree and find whatever you want and type make and when it finishes, make install and the ports system will go out to whatever maintainer is distributing that particular port, download it, configure it, compile it, download and install any dependancies and then finally install the port you want - all magically before your very eyes. Do this for each port you want installed. Notice by this, that the actual ports are kept in source form by the various maintainers. Some of them also build packages of their ports, but not all of them do that (I would guess, most don't) A few, such as OpenOffice are so big and take so long to build and depend on so many things that it is convenient to just install their premade package rather than building it all from ports. But most are not that big and take only a couple of minutes or so, depending on your network and machine speed. So, there is not benefit in creating binary install packages for them - and some significant disadvantages. So, more than you wanted to know, but what you need to know, jerry thanks for the explanation jerry its clearer now (stuffs up my idea lol) but clearer on how it works arden ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports/CD images?
Igor Skalski wrote: I would like to try to install FreeBSD on my home computer wchich is not connected to the Internet. In my opinion the most important aspect of using free software in such a conditions is possessing whole set of CD's containing both most important programs and source code. I can not find on the Internet CD images containing ports and sources. Are they available anywhere? I am not intend to buy the CD set - at least before trying the system. You're right, I don't see any CD image available online that contains all the packages, which is a little surprising. However, CDs containing lots of the packages are available very cheaply. I just checked http://www.cheapbytes.com , and they have 4 6 CD sets available for as low as US$6. So you might invest in one of those. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports/CD images?
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 09:17:42AM -0500, Jonathan Arnold wrote: Igor Skalski wrote: I would like to try to install FreeBSD on my home computer wchich is not connected to the Internet. In my opinion the most important aspect of using free software in such a conditions is possessing whole set of CD's containing both most important programs and source code. I can not find on the Internet CD images containing ports and sources. Are they available anywhere? I am not intend to buy the CD set - at least before trying the system. You're right, I don't see any CD image available online that contains all the packages, which is a little surprising. This question was asked and answered the other day..check the archives. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Ports/CD images?
Dear Sir/Madam, I would like to try to install FreeBSD on my home computer wchich is not connected to the Internet. In my opinion the most important aspect of using free software in such a conditions is possessing whole set of CD's containing both most important programs and source code. I can not find on the Internet CD images containing ports and sources. Are they available anywhere? I am not intend to buy the CD set - at least before trying the system. Igor Skalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports/CD images?
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 02:28:11PM +0100, Igor Skalski wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I would like to try to install FreeBSD on my home computer wchich is not connected to the Internet. In my opinion the most important aspect of using free software in such a conditions is possessing whole set of CD's containing both most important programs and source code. I can not find on the Internet CD images containing ports and sources. Are they available anywhere? I am not intend to buy the CD set - at least before trying the system. No - with nearly 11000 ports it would take a few dozen CD images to contain what you want. You can download the packages and distfiles from the FTP sites as needed though. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
