Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread oXid
Hello,

I did to all my / chmod 777... i just wanted to test somthing, but it
was a bad idea :(
Now, i can't login under SU. The account is in wheel
group...everything is fine, but when i enter root password it says,
that it is incorrect. I know my pass for 100%.
Is there any way, that my 777 mode did somthing?
Maybe some files shouldn't be 777?
Or is there any way to reinstall SU utility?

Thanks.

  

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Re[2]: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread oXid
Hello Arek,

Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 2:42:26 PM, you wrote:

AC On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, oXid wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I did to all my / chmod 777... i just wanted to test somthing, but it
 was a bad idea :(
 Now, i can't login under SU. The account is in wheel
 group...everything is fine, but when i enter root password it says,
 that it is incorrect. I know my pass for 100%.
 Is there any way, that my 777 mode did somthing?
 Maybe some files shouldn't be 777?
 Or is there any way to reinstall SU utility?
 

AC First try normal login as root from console
AC Next check log files - maybe some info you find

AC Before this changes (chmod ...) you can login as root via su on this user?

AC Arek

Yes, before my stubid chmod everything was just fine.
I looked at auth.log in /var/log , the only thing he writes, is
standatr record, like su for user on tty... faild..
The same stig as if password that i'am entering is wrong. No erors and
etc...Juts wrong pass :((
Maybe there are some better logs for that?

I can enter as root from console. But i can't enter as root, from ssh.
I have to enter as some user from whell then SU and etc...



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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread Peter Risdon
oXid wrote:

Hello Arek,

Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 2:42:26 PM, you wrote:

AC On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, oXid wrote:

 

Hello,

I did to all my / chmod 777... i just wanted to test somthing, but it
was a bad idea :(
Now, i can't login under SU. The account is in wheel
group...everything is fine, but when i enter root password it says,
that it is incorrect.
...

AC Before this changes (chmod ...) you can login as root via su on this user?

...

I can enter as root from console. But i can't enter as root, from ssh.
I have to enter as some user from whell then SU and etc...
 

Read /etc/ssh/sshd_config and find the line:

#PermitRootLogin no

Uncomment it and change no to yes if you really do want to permit direct 
root logins. It's generally thought to be a bad idea, though. Better to 
log in as a user and su/sudo when you need to.

PWR.

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Re[2]: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread oXid
Hello Beheer,

Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 1:58:46 PM, you wrote:

  I can enter as root from console. But i can't enter as root, from ssh.
  I have to enter as some user from whell then SU and etc...

B Don't login as root over a remote conection (ssh). It's disabled by
B default. The proper way is to login as a user who is in the wheel group
B and then su to root. It's also better to do this even at the local console.

B By default, no remote terminals are marked secure and thus are
B denied root login access.  Why?  Because they're not secure!

B To disable this security feature, go to /etc/ttys and mark the
B appropriate terminals 'secure.' But I would not recommend it.


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Thanks. But i don't have another choise.
Becose my SU utility doesn't work :(
I wrote that in my first mail.
Maybe anyone coud help me with fixing my SU?
Is itb possible to reinstall su, but only SU, not all system?
Or could someone tell me what files are working with su...maybe after
my chmod 777 / , access to some files gone wrong and now, SU utility
doesn't work properly... ??


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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread Remko Lodder

Thanks. But i don't have another choise.
Becose my SU utility doesn't work :(
I wrote that in my first mail.
Maybe anyone coud help me with fixing my SU?
Is itb possible to reinstall su, but only SU, not all system?
try /usr/src/usr.bin/su if you installed the source as well
make  make install in that directory. It gives you new su files.
That does what you ask for, but i am not sure whether it solves your 
problem.

Let us know if that worked.

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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread Beheer
 I can enter as root from console. But i can't enter as root, from ssh.
 I have to enter as some user from whell then SU and etc...
Don't login as root over a remote conection (ssh). It's disabled by 
default. The proper way is to login as a user who is in the wheel group 
and then su to root. It's also better to do this even at the local console.

By default, no remote terminals are marked secure and thus are
denied root login access.  Why?  Because they're not secure!
To disable this security feature, go to /etc/ttys and mark the
appropriate terminals 'secure.' But I would not recommend it.
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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread Irwan Hadi
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:07:42PM +0400, oXid wrote:
 Becose my SU utility doesn't work :(
 I wrote that in my first mail.
 Maybe anyone coud help me with fixing my SU?
 Is itb possible to reinstall su, but only SU, not all system?
 Or could someone tell me what files are working with su...maybe after
 my chmod 777 / , access to some files gone wrong and now, SU utility
 doesn't work properly... ??

Watch
-bash-2.05b$ ls -ls /usr/bin/su
14 -r-sr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  12460 Mar 18 02:03 /usr/bin/su
-bash-2.05b$

go change the permission flag on your su accordingly.

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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread R. Zoontjens
oXid wrote:
 Thanks. But i don't have another choise.
 Becose my SU utility doesn't work :(
 I wrote that in my first mail.
OK, the following lines confused me:

I can enter as root from console. But i can't enter as root, from ssh.
I have to enter as some user from whell then SU and etc...
I thought you were able to login remotely as a user and then su to root. 
But could not login as root remotely. This would be normal.

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Re[2]: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread oXid
Hello Remko,

Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 2:29:40 PM, you wrote:


 
 Thanks. But i don't have another choise.
 Becose my SU utility doesn't work :(
 I wrote that in my first mail.
 Maybe anyone coud help me with fixing my SU?
 Is itb possible to reinstall su, but only SU, not all system?

RL try /usr/src/usr.bin/su if you installed the source as well
RL make  make install in that directory. It gives you new su files.

RL That does what you ask for, but i am not sure whether it solves your
RL problem.

RL Let us know if that worked.

RL Cheers


Thanks alot to everybody !
I reinstalled SU and everything is fine.
Thnaks for fast help. Thanks alot!

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Re: Problem with SU utility!!!

2004-04-07 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-04-07T09:12:25Z, oXid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I did to all my / chmod 777... i just wanted to test somthing, but it was
 a bad idea :(

Wait - later posts indicate that /usr/bin/su had bad permissions.  Did you
*recursively* chmod your whole filesystem?
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problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Eric Yellin
When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
How can I change this?
Thanks,
Eric

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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:41:53PM +0200, Eric Yellin wrote:
 When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
 normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
 How can I change this?

Have you tried copying ~eric/.cshrc to ~root/.cshrc?

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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Remko Lodder
Eric Yellin wrote:

When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
How can I change this?
Thanks,
Eric
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Hi Eric,

When you use `su -` you say to the su program, Let me own the root 
profile and give it's settings to me, dropping my own settings.
use `su` if you want to say using your current settings.

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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:41:53PM +0200, Eric Yellin wrote:
 When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
 normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
 How can I change this?

Look in /root/.cshrc -- I generally just comment out the PROMPT line.

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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Remko Lodder
Jez Hancock wrote:

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:41:53PM +0200, Eric Yellin wrote:

When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
How can I change this?


Have you tried copying ~eric/.cshrc to ~root/.cshrc?

Why should you want to do that? Why not build a root specific 
environment setting? Or if you actually want to do it, don't forget to 
look at the files before you copy them, and insert the root options back 
in. (i mean that the root .cshrc might have other options than your 
$user .cshrc file, and you perhaps want to keep some settings which are 
in the root .cshrc)

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RE: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Edmund Craske
This isn't right, when using the -m flag su uses your current
environment, keeping your shell, prompt etc the same as in your
own account. All I can think of is that it executes something
when it opens the new shell which changes it, which shouldn't
be root's cshrc. Perhaps some shell script conditional gubbins
around the prompt statement in the user's cshrc?

Ed

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jez Hancock
 Sent: 20 March 2004 18:23
 To: Eric Yellin
 Cc: freeBSD
 Subject: Re: problem with su
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:41:53PM +0200, Eric Yellin wrote:
  When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt 
 is a % sign. 
  My normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su 
 -m. How can 
  I change this?
 
 Have you tried copying ~eric/.cshrc to ~root/.cshrc?
 
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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 06:46:53PM -, Edmund Craske wrote:
 This isn't right, when using the -m flag su uses your current
 environment, keeping your shell, prompt etc the same as in your
 own account. All I can think of is that it executes something
 when it opens the new shell which changes it, which shouldn't
 be root's cshrc. Perhaps some shell script conditional gubbins
 around the prompt statement in the user's cshrc?

Mmm you're right - personally I do:

su -

to su from my normal to root user and I have ~root/.cshrc symlinked to
~user/.cshrc (ditto for most other dotrc files :P).

Works for me.

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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Eric Yellin wrote:

When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt is a % sign. My
normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su -m.
How can I change this?
Thanks,
Eric
 

Seems a tad unusual.  Don't know if I can help,
but can you give me some info?
a. What is root's shell entry in /etc/passwd?

b.  From whence do you set your normal prompt?  /~/.cshrc?

If the machine is not used by others, a quick
workaround might be to simply copy your .cshrc
to /root/ and simply use su.  But it does seem
a tad weird that su -m seems to be reading some
other resource file...or else my understanding of
-m is broken, which is entirely possible.
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: problem with su

2004-03-20 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Edmund Craske wrote:

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Sent: 20 March 2004 18:23
To: Eric Yellin
Cc: freeBSD
Subject: Re: problem with su

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:41:53PM +0200, Eric Yellin wrote:
   

When I su -m and login as root, all I get in the prompt 
 

is a % sign. 
   

My normal user shell is tcsh and the prompt looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/eric(29): but this is not kept when I su 
 

-m. How can 
   

I change this?
 

Have you tried copying ~eric/.cshrc to ~root/.cshrc?

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This isn't right, when using the -m flag su uses your current
environment, keeping your shell, prompt etc the same as in your
own account. All I can think of is that it executes something
when it opens the new shell which changes it, which shouldn't
be root's cshrc. Perhaps some shell script conditional gubbins
around the prompt statement in the user's cshrc?
Ed


Testing, one, two three.

I wrote (even having tested first) something
similar to the list almost 3 hours ago.  As it
hasn't shown up yet (mailman seems fine, is my
DNS down again?) we'll try again:
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Seems a tad unusual.  Don't know if I can help,
but can you give me some info?
a. What is root's shell entry in /etc/passwd?

b.  From whence do you set your normal prompt?  /~/.cshrc?

If the machine is not used by others, a quick
workaround might be to simply copy your .cshrc
to /root/ and simply use su.  But it does seem
a tad weird that su -m seems to be reading some
other resource file...or else my understanding of
-m is broken, which is entirely possible. 
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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